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Author Topic: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered  (Read 35156 times)

christo4_99

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Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« on: April 25, 2011, 06:32:46 AM »
Well guys i had it two years ago...but there was a flaw in my thinking/design...but i worked it out.I will not give the design away here i worked hard for it.I just want you all to know that Bessler was no fraud and neither am i.

eisnad karm

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 06:42:08 AM »
Without giving away any design details did you ever get a model or working prototype to run and for how long
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christo4_99

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2011, 06:57:01 AM »
I have not built it yet.But it is "the" principle and it will work.I am just trying here to clear a man's credibility and mine of course,and to tell all of those people who have gone down this road that there are fruits to be had here and that their time has not been wasted.I will post a video on youtube of the working wheel when i have it built...with the mechanism covered up of course.I'd like to thank Stephan for starting this web site.

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 07:01:23 AM »
Many thanks for your reply, I wish you well when you build it
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armagdn03

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 07:36:38 AM »
Well guys i had it two years ago...but there was a flaw in my thinking/design...but i worked it out.I will not give the design away here i worked hard for it.I just want you all to know that Bessler was no fraud and neither am i.

Hello,

Word of caution, by what you have just said..."but i worked it out.I will not give the design" you have probably shot the yourself in the foot. Such statements are a dime a dozen in these strange parts...To those who do not know you, you have painted a bulls-eye on you forehead reading "im another dellusional self righeous prophet who loves to soak in others efforts and contributions, but refuse to give kindly in turn....

Freely You have received, Freely give. -Christ-

christo4_99

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 09:37:42 AM »
that is a seriously fucked up thing to say beginning with " word of caution ". i'm out dis bitch.thx.
Such statements are a dime a dozen in these strange parts...To those who do not know you, you have painted a bulls-eye on you forehead reading "im another dellusional self righeous prophet who loves to soak in others efforts and contributions, but refuse to give kindly in turn....
I'm more of a barter type of guy...what exactly do you have to offer buddy?no,i don't like what you said because you seem to have missed the point which is:i didn't get this idea from anyone except Bessler himself...and i cannot thank him personally so I am giving him the word of praise that he never got although he is not around to receive it.you are on the dark side my friend.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2011, 10:12:40 AM by christo4_99 »

christo4_99

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 09:57:25 AM »
furthermore i have already expressed my thanks to the moderator/founder of the board.what exactly do you want me to give away?is it the very same secret that Bessler himself craftily kept concealed and died with after being ridiculed and tagged as a pretender/madman all his life by the majority of society?most of these people on here are no more secure in their beliefs about this particular subject than i was up until the last few days.but now i know it is possibly and i know the exact method of achieving it.what i am attempting to do is set the record straight about a man that deserved to be taken quite a bit more seriously in his day than he was and at the same time reassure those people who have pursued this fantasy albeit a reality of perpetual motion .Better late than never i always say.The person who really deserves the praise Is Johann Ernst Elias Bessler but it's too late for that.

armagdn03

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 12:26:25 PM »
furthermore i have already expressed my thanks to the moderator/founder of the board.what exactly do you want me to give away?is it the very same secret that Bessler himself craftily kept concealed and died with after being ridiculed and tagged as a pretender/madman all his life by the majority of society?most of these people on here are no more secure in their beliefs about this particular subject than i was up until the last few days.but now i know it is possibly and i know the exact method of achieving it.what i am attempting to do is set the record straight about a man that deserved to be taken quite a bit more seriously in his day than he was and at the same time reassure those people who have pursued this fantasy albeit a reality of perpetual motion .Better late than never i always say.The person who really deserves the praise Is Johann Ernst Elias Bessler but it's too late for that.

I said it with good intentions. I apologize. The world is not against you, i have just seen people get torn apart for such statements. Generally people dont care about "the record" here, this is an Open Source community.

I have alot to share. If you would like to see my work go ahead.


http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5762-missing-fundamental-generator.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6557-charge-conserving-capacitive-spring.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5199-eccentric-transformer-theory.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7865-interesting-concept-water-purification-system.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5762-missing-fundamental-generator.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5952-capacitive-sink-hole.html

Each of these threads (and more) represent hours if not years of research, given freely, because I have received so much in return without asking.

christo4_99

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 12:52:45 PM »
well...first off i am broke and always have been...might still always be but this is like my one shot.just trying to celebrate my triumph along with an old friend i have some sentiment for.and as far as this being a open source community i like to limit myself to thinking free energy...not open source technology per se.i know the world needs saving as much as anyone.when people get sight of this it will change things,i'm sure.until then i will try to get what i can for it.

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2011, 01:18:34 PM »
well...first off i am broke and always have been...might still always be but this is like my one shot.

I bet the next thing is asking for investors, right?

neptune

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2011, 01:21:58 PM »
@christo4-99 . Nothing will change .People will not get sight of it .You have chosen your path .Amen .

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2011, 03:02:38 PM »
Christo4_99 the best thing for you to do is to get a GNU/GPL license for your technology and make a full disclosure to the public.  This way you will undoubtedly be the father of this technology while your device will be put to use instead of on a shelf to be forgotten. 

If that is not enough let me assure you that you will earn more than enough money giving speeches at colleges and universities around the world for $30k-$50k per speech if not more. 

As other have said the selfish path always leads to failure.  I hope you see the logic in this and choose the selfless path for yourself, for humanity, and for the planet. 




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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 03:15:33 PM »
Christo4_99 the best thing for you to do is to get a GNU/GPL license for your technology and make a full disclosure to the public.  This way you will undoubtedly be the father of this technology while your device will be put to use instead of on a shelf to be forgotten. 

If that is not enough let me assure you that you will earn more than enough money giving speeches at colleges and universities around the world for $30k-$50k per speech if not more. 

As other have said the selfish path always leads to failure.  I hope you see the logic in this and choose the selfless path for yourself, for humanity, and for the planet.

Tenbatsu

How can the GNL/GPL license that is designed for dealing with software have any validation and protection on an invention of a physical device?

Be careful of misinterpreting software laws for hardware, so to speak.

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2011, 05:23:12 PM »
I have not built it yet.But it is "the" principle and it will work.I am just trying here to clear a man's credibility and mine of course,and to tell all of those people who have gone down this road that there are fruits to be had here and that their time has not been wasted.I will post a video on youtube of the working wheel when i have it built...with the mechanism covered up of course.I'd like to thank Stephan for starting this web site.

Congratulations  christo4_99 on your perceived success.  Remarkable that you and Alan now have potentially working wheels, from my standpoint it is going to be interesting how you guys handle this as I am still in a dilemma about what to do. 
 

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2011, 06:23:19 PM »
Christo4
Wow, Now I can sleep tonight!
Bessler was no Fraud...............

Geeese Wait till I tell the boys in the trenches,they'll be SSsoooo
relieved..........................
So will all the folks over in Japan ![and East]
Holy Cow ,Can't wait to tell the Kids!!

Thanks Bud!!

Chet
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Bill
I've heard it said "lead by example"!

A few of the men that have posted in these threads recently,Are just such Men!
 "Great Men"
Your example Could really "change the world"!