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Hydrogen energy => Motors or Vehicles running on HHO or Hydrogen only, no gasoline => Topic started by: ResinRat2 on April 12, 2011, 04:48:17 PM
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Last update to the website was about five months ago. Anybody hear anything else? I would like to get costs to see how practical this might be.
http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/h2.htm
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Driving range on the Corvette was 350 miles using this system.
That's plenty of range; and the fact that you produce and compress the hydrogen into hydride at home all day long using ordinary household water pressure makes it more reasonable.
My guess is the cost is high, otherwise they would have advertised some kind of price for the system.
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Res
From the Home page on your link
Forget Gasoline - Switch To Hydrogen!
The United Nuclear Hydrogen Fuel System Kit converts your existing Gasoline powered vehicle to run on pure Hydrogen.
This is not a bogus HHO add-on kit.
This system consists of a conversion kit for your vehicle, a home Hydrogen generation station which manufactures the Hydrogen gas, and a power system (either solar or wind turbine) that provides the power to run the Hydrogen generator. The Hydrogen gas is safely stored in Metal Hydride tanks in your vehicle.
Simply put, you never buy or use Gasoline again.
"""Target price for the complete system (which includes the home Hydrogen generator station, associated solar or wind power unit, and vehicle conversion kit is in the $10,000 range.""""
Very Cool
Chet
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Duh!! :P Thanks Chet. I missed that on the Home Page.
$10,000.00 ... Hmmm. OK ... Probably you will never get that money back, but if it continues to work as stated, you can move it on to other cars down the line as well.
Might be worth it then.
What I think is interesting is the person who founded United Nuclear is Bob Lazar of the UFO fame. Wasn't it he who said he was in Area 51 back -engineering alien technology and the UFO's used Element 113 or 114 or something like that for fuel.
LOL,...What a small world we live in.
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I looked it up. Bob Lazar said the ufo's used Element 115 for fuel. I was close. LOL!
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Posted on their "Contact us" webpage:
"United Nuclear Scientific
Hydrogen Fuel Systems Division
P.O. Box 373
Laingsburg, Michigan 48848
U.S.A.
. Note: Please do not call us for additional information.
All information currently available - is on this website -
We know there are a lot of customers anxiously awaiting the release of our Hydrogen Fuel System kits. Our products are still in development - when they are ready for final production & sale, that information will be immediately posted here.
We are in the process of purchasing a building to begin manufacturing our Hydrogen Fuel System Kits as well as expand our scientific supplies division. Assuming everything continues to go as planned we will start the necessary building modifications and begin hiring & associated operations.
We will not be in a position to discuss technical specifications, distributorships, component or kit prices, estimated sales dates, etc. until we're up & running and in production at our new facility.
Thank you, but we do not need additional test vehicles
and we never accept outside funding.
Contact: sales@unitednuclear.com"
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To tell you the honest truth, I would probably buy it right now if I could. That's how anxious I am to get some type of alternative technology running. I need to relax and watch it all go by for a bit. Otherwise, that's how people get ripped off.
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Latest Sad News. Absolutely incredible, but no one should be surprised by this latest development. As reported on United Nuclear's Website:
"As our system is very dependent on Rare-Earth metals & compounds, we are now being held up by the recent move by the Chinese Government to limit (and dramatically overprice) Rare Earth elements & Compounds. China has been the only source for these materials for many years, although they are abundant in the USA but no longer mined or produced. This move by the Chinese has made our system that we were going to retail for $10,000, now cost us over $45,000 just for materials. Obviously at these prices this is no longer a viable product as far as sales go, so the Chinese political situation must change, or we take many steps back and begin looking for replacement materials - which may take years - and may not even be possible.
We are looking into all possibilities as well as manufacturing in China (which would be a last resort). Hopefully the political situation will change so we can continue to manufacture here in the USA & use the storage material we have worked for years to develop
http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/ (http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/)"
United Nuclear Hydrogen Fuel System -- R.I.P. -- 2012
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Edit to add Bob Lazar vid on above thread topic !
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wjeM2IBhtlc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wjeM2IBhtlc)
Here more about similar tech from same time period
Suppressed by “Green government” !!!!!!!
Snip;
Plasma kinetics Metal Hydrides https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xA5cZnFfkkE (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xA5cZnFfkkE)
Suppressed Hydrogen harvesting and storage technology ( since 2009 seized patent rights)
https://plasmakinetics.com/ (https://plasmakinetics.com/) 3:30 mark in vid
Hydrogen stored in material like a cd (6:41 minute mark of vid) can be put on shelf in convenience stores!
Can harvest directly from air (3:min vid
I would say just one of many techs suppressed by Greed ..and need to control or maintain wealth!
Plasma kinetics had tech “shovel ready” in 2009
Government that talks big on green … stifled release for a decade ?
Imagine how advanced this could be if not suppressed since 2009
And all the independent start up companies and surrounding businesses..
Somebody plays with our planet and it’s future for their own profits …
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How amazing to find safe Hydrogen storage
Suppressed!!?
Edit to Boja comment below
Are you familiar with plasma kinetics tech ( Hydride they use ?
Info on plasma kinetics above is not original Bob Lazar (lithium Hydride) company
In thread topic .
It is a new Hydride suppressed by government ( in video
Link above ( this post)
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Simply, the production of metal hydrides is expensive!
And the technology for producing hydrogen from them is very simple!
(https://s3.gifyu.com/images/AA_02.jpg) (https://gifyu.com/image/Sqnmw)
How can I insert an image here directly?
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Boja
Perhaps you did not read past RIP in last post of topic prior
To bump ?
Have added
Plasma Kinetics suppressed metal hydride patent in 2009 ( laser activated tiny discs (scalable)
For convenience store over the counter hydrogen power batteries …upto … huge storage!
Patent Has Since been allowed a release from National security hold ( who knows under what “conditions/limitations “?)
Think of all the applications for planet friendly SAFELY stored hydrogen ( watch Bob Lazar video of his 3-400 Mile range in my last post !
Here i see very busy member shared an answer to your question on posting images
Worldcup
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you can post scheme by attaching in your post, there is attach - choose file option.
see attached video tutorial.
when you attach any images, it will automatially be visible in post.
gif_animation_attach.mp4 (https://overunity.com/19309/working-kapanadze-generator-circuit/dlattach/attach/189689/) (1302.93 kB - downloaded 9 times.)
End quote
So a question ?
Are you familiar with plasma kinetics metal hydride material
For storing Hydrogen?
Your response or help understanding this greatly appreciated!
Or any open source contributions from community!
Respectfully
Chet K
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No, I don't know exactly plasma kinetics metal hydride material for storing Hydrogen...
However, I know many other advanced technologies for obtaining the same hydrogen.
The topic of hydrogen has always been even closer to me than the topic of obtaining FE
since I converted my "Subaru" nine years ago to run on pure hydrogen
from water
Regards
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Yes
Always my favorite ( LENR experiments and water fuel )
I see Hydride storage as miraculous ( years back we had Chris Hunter ( member Alaskastar)
Share a method to store propane in Zoelite and release with tiny ( teeny) charge !
Also seemed miraculous at the time ..for clarity Zoelite absorbed propane and then released
With small charge ( no compressor involved from liquid to gas to …?
If these hydrides can absorb Hydrogen ….?
You should know there is also experiments going to happen in open source forums with Sam Leach claim !( link below)
Water runs ICE with 20 ppm lithium nitrate in water at 500 psi
Tommy Reed is preparing experiments here when weather breaks ( I will also attempt and perhaps a few others !
Water furnace/heater is also a goal … member Russwr (?)shared water furnace ( resonance and ? Patent here ( will look for link)
And many other things we can do with hydrogen ( even urea to HHO like young ladies did in Nigeria years back for running generator ( metal hydride Hydrogen storage will make amazing advances there in waste management to useful safe product !
Trillions of gallons of drinking water flushed every day ?
Thanks for joining open source community!
Much to do here !
Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
Below image /info was shared here in Tom Bearden’s
Memorial tribute posted by member OnePower
It seems to have been removed since then ( from tribute link)
Exciting topic !
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Well,
Purely for an example; here is a Russian inventor with his invention (although we here hate these Russians! ..)
titanium hydride machine:
And here is another useful invention for you,
although some argue that this cannot be in principle possible:
(transmutation of elements)
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To be honest
Hate is a big word, a persons works or deeds are a better measure
Than geography or their governments position/works !(IMO)
Yes transmutation ( LENR )
Herman Alexander info is also curious ( will find link)shared by Jerry V recently!
Thanks for sharing ( please continue )
With gratitude
Chet
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Thanks for sharing ( please continue )
With gratitude
Chet
OK!
You can download this movie, open source,
until I removed it;
stuff like this shouldn't be around for long!
(my opinion is)...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_9Ywdd6Vx0VDIQLPcUK2Iha-MlfwcaGA/view?usp=share_link :)
- Removed!
Classics of the genre:
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>:( :( >:(
The presence of a diode anywhere in the circuit produces ordinary electrolysis.
Even if there is no drawn diode in the "electric circuit", then the diode may be a different material of the electrodes.
If the material is the same, then the different area of the electrodes is also a diode.
If there is no diode, then there is no ordinary electrolysis and there is no gas. Two blade water heater.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjJ1N4uJyV8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjJ1N4uJyV8)
Don't do that, it's very dangerous!
Will we discuss ordinary electrolysis for the 100th time? Not tired?
:( :( :( Try to do this, and then you won’t get a miracle without fakes.
But I'd rather take on a more promising project.
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You can show your ready-made device!??...
widely mistaken in your judgments
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If the material is the same, then the different area of the electrodes is also a diode.
Is this really right ?
p.s.
I suggested here about a year ago another method invented by me.
Using pure alternating current, and not using diodes.
But as usual nobody no payed attention. :(
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I need to show you old a movie
where for "electrolysis" I spend a large current = 6mA!
was made according to the precepts of Tesla...
How is your life on a stinking forum energyscience!?..
I saw you there often before
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I need to show you old a movie
where for "electrolysis" I spend a large current = 6mA!
was made according to the precepts of Tesla...
How is your life on a stinking forum energyscience!?..
I saw you there often before
fifty replies for several years, on energyscience i don't think that it is many.
And serg speaks right. Almost everything circuits contains this diode.
Because if was not have this diode,no one bubbles at all. :D
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You two have another stupidity in your head,
that every two pieces of iron will serve as a diode for you! 8)
The flag is in your hands! Let's not stop thinking like that!
May your personal conviction always be with you ::)
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In any case, when you create non-equilibrium conditions for electric current, you get a rectifier.
A unipolar pulse current, or any current that does not have a positive component equal to a negative one, is not a pure alternating current.
This is an alternating current with a component of direct current.
And even if you have alternating current with equal energy positive and negative part and with absolutely identical electrodes in electrolyser, this current can be partially rectified when passing through the electrolyzer.
How? If you have a positive pulse of 100 volts for 1 microsecond, and then a negative pulse of 1 volt for 100 microseconds.It seems to be the same, but a voltage of 1 volt usually does not lead to conductivity in electrolytes. The result of this is ordinary Faraday electrolysis.
https://simplifier.neocities.org/rectifier (https://simplifier.neocities.org/rectifier)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kam0f_UTb9c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kam0f_UTb9c)
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A non-linear inductor with a permanent magnet inside, like those used in line-scan TVs and monitors, can serve as this element in the same way.
Have you tried to create an AC rectifier without diodes, only with the help of such polar inductors? ;)
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Regarding electrolysis.
If the current through the electrolyzer is not symmetrical, then Faraday electrolysis occurs.
Nonlinear inductors and other elements of electrical circuits are not important.
You have long been convinced that the decomposition of water by the correct alternating current does not occur. Even if the voltage is high.
Let's talk formally according to Stanley Meyer, although you can find worthy patents from other people.
Why did he accumulate voltage on the cell with a diode?
The literal decomposition of water by high voltage is extremely energy-consuming. Electrolysis has the highest efficiency at the lowest voltage. There are patents and articles that describe catalytic electrolysis processes at a voltage of less than 1.8 volts, even at 1 volt. Some even suggest that with the right catalysts, electrolysis or decomposition of water can be achieved even at 0 volts.
Now we have to think.
Why Stanley Meyer and other similar inventors need relatively high cell voltages?
Moreover, high-frequency, impulse and the like. Do you know how badly supports water these types of voltages? Even with distilled water, even with highly purified deionized water, I had problems with parameter instability and high voltage absorption in such purified water.
But Meyer writes about ordinary natural water. Such water has a strong conductivity. Natural ordinary water practically makes a short circuit in Meyers small cells.
So, what is next? How could it even work then?
I hope you do not assume that the whole truth is written in patents?
I recently got a new idea. What if there was not quite water in the cells? Or even almost no water at all?
A liquid with high dielectric properties, in which some natural water is dissolved? Then everything falls into place.
For example, but maybe some other liquid:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer_oil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer_oil)
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just for study
https://danieldonatelli.wixsite.com/hho-pocket-guide
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just for study
Studied. We are talking about the decomposition of water vapor in an electric field using Stanley Meyer technology. You can find other people's patents for similar processes of decomposition of water vapor in an electric field.
It is probably fundamentally possible.
But where is the source of energy that will release more energy at the output than at the input?
In addition, your site talks about the decomposition of gas in plasma "according to Stanley Meyer technology."
But in the meantime, your site has a link to a video with a Meyer cell in which the liquid is clearly visible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaO4RH5hmzg&t=1101s
In general, there are some other suggestions how to make the decomposition of water vapor energetically less expensive, but you are probably not interested.
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I recently got a new idea. What if there was not quite water in the cells? Or even almost no water at all?
A liquid with high dielectric properties, in which some natural water is dissolved? Then everything falls into place.
For example, but maybe some other liquid:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer_oil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer_oil)
I think in this case the high intensity of the electric field will be redistributed to the oil, and there will still be little to the drop of water in the suspension.