MrWayne: I have a few questions. First, is there a video of your device in operation for a reasonable amount of time, powered or unpowered?

Next, some particulars:

Does your device require an external source of power? For example, do you need to run a compressor to store some compressed air, are there water pumps running, is there a big battery or a mains connection?

For how long does it "run" when it is not attached to an external power supply, including a tank of compressed air?

When it stops, why (or how) does it stop? Is a reservoir depleted, has the friction become too great, or like that. Or does it simply keep on running when it's disconnected from its power source? If the latter, PM me and I will start piling money into the armored car to bring to you.

These are questions concerning the current operation of a real device, not the theoretical predictions of how it will perform once you've got the kinks worked out. Do you have a "self runner" now, that requires no continuing source of external power, yet it continues to operate, producing useful work?



Now I also have some "theoretical" type questions about the demonstration of the cups in the aquarium and the operation of the system.

You do realise that whenever you do the work to submerge a volume of air, you also are _lifting_ an equal quantity of water an equivalent height, right? In fact it is raising this water that causes the "repulsion" you feel when you are pushing the air-filled cup down in the water: you are lifting a cup "full of water" to the top of the aquarium.

Now, imagine a spherical glass ball with a large hole in the bottom, like your cup but only spherical. Fill it with water and submerge, placing the weight on top. Now bubble air into it from underneath until it is neutrally buoyant. You now have "lift" that is equal to the weight. Right?
What happened to the water you displaced with your bubbles? If you carefully note the water level of the external container, you will find that it has risen, from its low point when the sphere was full of water, to a higher point now that the sphere is full of the air you pumped into it. In other words, when you pumped the air into your chamber, you pumped an equal quantity of water OUT, all the way up to the top of the external container. This represents stored energy. It is in the water that you lifted, NOT so much in the air.
Now.... introduce a balloon into your neutrally buoyant sphere of air. Start pumping WATER into the balloon, displacing the air in the sphere. Does the sphere become more buoyant during this process? What happens to the water level in the external container when you do this?
Or.... don't use an inner balloon or a pump at all, just make a little leak in the top of the sphere. As the air runs out and water runs in....  does the sphere become more buoyant during the process? What happens to the water level in the external container when you do this?

Thanks in advance--
--TK

(Yes, that's right, the disinformation campaign that has been trying to keep me distracted and confined to a single thread is breaking down and I am escaping once in a while to check activity in the "real world" of PM motors, buoyancy drives, gravity wheels and functionless electronic circuits.)

>>  You do realise that whenever you do the work to submerge a volume of air, you also are _lifting_ an equal quantity of water an equivalent height, right?  <<
 This is wrong. He is displacing an equivalent amount of water. Height is relative to the surface area which helps to determine the volume in the tank.
 An example is if there are 2 tanks and one has the surface area of 1 square foot and the other 10 square feet, the tank with 10 square feet of surface area would have it's water level lifted 1/10th that of the tank with 1 square foot of surface area.
 Also, the surface area of the tank, is it more or less than the surface area of air in the cup ? This would give a ratio as to any rise in height of the water in the tank being displaced.
 
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p.s. In theory, what Wayne has proposed is theorhetically possible. I would think though that using purely mechanical means to demonstrate the system is 100% isolated would be helpful.

A video will not show anything but the external functions. Inside the ZED the Travis effect is used to act as a pressure increaser - not in the simple form shown in Tom's demo -instead we have a much inhanced version.
We were in the middle of a DOE when we filmed this video, so I am a bit emberrassed that it is being shown.
The "Travis Effect" is what made it possible.
Yes, we do maintain all pressures, and build excess pressure - no external inputs, and no emmissions.
I know this is an Open source site, I am not open sourceing, I am keeping a promise to Stefan 9allowing his group to see our O/U machine.
Those parties who wish to get involved can contact Mark Dansie, or myself in regards to joining our team.
With proper NDA, and constructive valid intentions, we will disclose to process.
Otherwise I have to protect our current interests and so I can not disclose our process completly to this or any other site.
Please do not ask, and do not profane me for being professional.
Each Engineer that has reviewed our process states that we are ten years ahead of the competition, I would like to keep it that way for a while.
Wayne
 

Stefan asked me about input and output,
Now this will make sense to all of you, no input.....
Back in May/June of last when Mark flew over the first time, we had a demo model which had the sole purpose of testing the input and the out put.
By that standard we were good then, but the barr was raised - as I see very often - If it is really exceeding the input - then it should be able to run itself - and then some.
So from June till November we installed HMI and controls to enable a self running system - it was crude and I can share the video of that model running out side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-0TITC4Wrc
This was a competly self runner - the video man is Mark Dansie.
Then the bar was raised again - clean it up, secure it, and add data collection - we finished this week.
Wayne
 
 

 My Desire, and my companies vision, is to bring Energy Independence, through our clean technology to those that are wise enough to seek it.
It has not changed since the first discovery, nor through the many hard trails and discoveries that came along the way.
Please do not compare us to those that did not invite - openly - the pure peer review of skepticism.
We were vetted - before we allowed others to help.
I am sorry for the example that others set: And I would warn to be even more cautious in coming months - Our discovery was fraught with obstacles to overcome - and our own engineer argued feverishly over ever solution I invented - until he saw it work.
If someone thinks they have free energy and tries to ride on our success - Make sure they are vetted.
We have proven that O/U can be mechanically accomplished  - that should open minds once again - but not at the expense of proper and due diligence.
 (not to you - I understand, but to those involved)
Peace and blesssings
 
Wayne
 
 
 

Hi mrwayne,

Very nice work here from what i have observed in your video explanation i can already see theoretically 3 mechanical ways to exploit this effect to build selfrunners in a small scale and maybe more efficiently (water pomp, water turbine , and depression turbine in the last case no water involved) . I am sure many other engineers out there will come up with many other ways to use it. So what i suggest you is to open source your project allow replication and spreading and benefit from your platform  you can still make as much money or even more with this project open sourced by building a strong community around you then a patent license because people will easily exploit this effect anyway just follow the examples of the computer industry you will succeed. someone says here an effect can't be patented and he is right .In your case the great achievement seems to be the discovery not the invention.


tnx Sid

I note the presence of the one item that no free energy overunity machine seems to be without: a battery.
 

the Travis effect is = expand air on a larger surface you create a depression and increase buoyancy physic 101.
just like a hot air balloon. many other people have used this principle for their devices some of them are even discussed here on this forum sadly there is more theory here than experiment .to build a device all you have to do is to displace the air from a low surface area to a bigger surface area vice versa the increased  buoyancy will provide the required energy to displace . the energy is in the air it self .

Good day.

the Travis effect is = expand air on a larger surface you create a depression and increase buoyancy physic 101.
just like a hot air balloon. many other people have used this principle for their devices some of them are even discussed here on this forum sadly there is more theory here than experiment .to build a device all you have to do is to displace the air from a low surface area to a bigger surface area vice versa the increased  buoyancy will provide the required energy to displace . the energy is in the air it self .

Good day.

Thanks for the comment.
Wayne