Author Topic: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system. (Read 1296117 times)

mrwayne · « **Reply #105 on:** May 27, 2012, 11:18:54 PM »

Correct, by itself - as presented "is not" super effecient, which I why I authorized that part of the machine to be released.
Even last year I was trying to explain that - yet the desire from all was to jump to the end.
You see how hard it was to understand at first - and the rest of the system is mind boggling - if you do not understand the "Travis effect" I do not wish to present gibberish - which is what I would sound like with that effect misunderstood.
It is the key that had to be understood to build a device to harvest net energy from buoyancy.
And you see how such a simple thing can be overlooked.
Peace and blessings

johnny874 · « **Reply #106 on:** May 28, 2012, 04:19:18 AM »

neptune
in a closed system a staic head will 2psi of force, tne same static head open to tne atmosphere will have 14psi,
tnis is somethinb engineers know.

bolt · « **Reply #107 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:51:15 AM »

Regardless if the system can be made OU is not the point. Fact remains the COST per WATT is extremely expensive, not for DIY solution and therefore cannot even compete with a 100w solar panel or small windmill.

This project is probably only ever going to make a museum item regardless if it works or not. There are far better alternatives.

mrwayne · « **Reply #108 on:** May 28, 2012, 01:39:57 PM »

Really?
Is this just a bait comment - question, come on....... you conclude that how?
Ok, I will bite -
We initally come in costing the same as Solar PV for a comparable wattage - unless you remember that solar works 6 hours a day at its peak ability.......
We are partnering with Solar PV manufacturers - for obvious mutual benifits.
"This is why the "Third Party" evalaution has stated - this will replace both Solar PV and Wind alternative energy".
It will aslo increase the Demand for Alternatives since the Return On the Investment is better than Fossil Fuel - a first for alternative energy.
Hope that helps,
Wayne

MileHigh · « **Reply #109 on:** May 28, 2012, 02:19:20 PM »

Wayne:

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It will aslo increase the Demand for Alternatives since the Return On the Investment is better than Fossil Fuel

I am pretty sure that all of us would like to see your ROI calculations. Can you share them with us?

MileHigh

mrwayne · « **Reply #110 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:11:51 PM »

Milehigh,
You mad bro?
No, I am not sharing our business plan with you, sorry, you know better than to expect that.
But, a little thinking will go a long way.
What is your electricity worth?
My bill is .10kwh, actually one of the lower prices in the world.
How many kwh can a 100kw system provide depends on the system;
Those costs are pretty well documented - as well as the asset utilization.
Our system has two major advantages - boiler plate manufacturing, Solar is a little more complex
And at least 4X the asset utilization - regardless of the weather.
Wayne

mrwayne · « **Reply #111 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:20:19 PM »

Quote from: microcontroller on May 28, 2012, 01:55:33 PM

Bull Shit.
I know exactly what you are doing.

Come on guy's don't be fooled by this man.

I always keep my word, and I tell the truth even when it hurts.
I try to be respectful, even to those who don't return the courtesy.
You do not knwo what you speak, but you do have passion.
And "Time will tell" regardless of your passionate disbelief.
I gave a training class to a group that will be acting as representatives -
The vision was clear - Get this to the world, at personal financial sacrafice.
Your comments, if they could - work to be counter productive to that mission.
Have patience, Wayne

norman6538 · « **Reply #112 on:** May 28, 2012, 04:34:21 PM »

Wayne, I have to commend you for the way you respond to the naysayers and name callers.
It shows the real character of a man.

With me - name callers and bad mouthers get crossed off real fast and I don't even bother
to read what they type.

If I don't understand something I will ask a question rather than condem the person or
the idea.

Norman

johnny874 · « **Reply #113 on:** May 28, 2012, 05:40:46 PM »

Stefan,
I was wondering if this is the right part of the forum for MrWaynes work.
Jim

MileHigh · « **Reply #114 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:06:43 PM »

Wayne,

I don't think that your ROI model would be revealing your business plan at all. I find it very strange that you would state that. Showing the ROI says practically nothing about your system. So what if you say what the approximate cost is, what's that going to change?

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How many kwh can a 100kw system provide depends on the system

You have made a good half-dozen or so statements like this that erode your credibility.

MileHigh

johnny874 · « **Reply #115 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:19:24 PM »

@All,
When a hydraulic cylinder extends into a bellows, it changes the air pressure.
This would make it easier to lift the other bellow using vacuum.
What I dont unfrstand is how the potential that created the work is reversed. This where many good ideas fail.

Jim

mrwayne · « **Reply #116 on:** May 29, 2012, 12:17:01 AM »

I think what you have exposed is more than what you are demonstrating. The amount or volume of water displaced for a buoyant condition is NOT dependent on the volume of air used, that is one part of what you are showing with the corresponding piece being that a buoyant vessel within the water column losses that value when surrounded by a pocket of air.

You are on the right path, well done -
I can not reveal anymore than I have in this group, so please correspond privately - if you wish to know more
I am tired of the pettyness and distraction of some of the members here - my work goes on.
As always you may contact me through my web site.
or at mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com
God Bless you all

mrwayne · « **Reply #117 on:** May 29, 2012, 12:22:46 AM »

Quote from: johnny874 on May 28, 2012, 09:19:24 PM

@All,
When a hydraulic cylinder extends into a bellows, it changes the air pressure.
This would make it easier to lift the other bellow using vacuum.
What I dont unfrstand is how the potential that created the work is reversed. This where many good ideas fail.

Jim

Hello Jim,
The Bellows simply act to transfer the equalization between columns, nothing new here -
Since we always have head in both columns - no vacuum
We move water not air - and we do not expand or compress the air that is no our system.
Thanks

mrwayne · « **Reply #118 on:** May 29, 2012, 12:30:47 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on May 28, 2012, 08:06:43 PM

Wayne,

I don't think that your ROI model would be revealing your business plan at all. I find it very strange that you would state that. Showing the ROI says practically nothing about your system. So what if you say what the approximate cost is, what's that going to change?

You have made a good half-dozen or so statements like this that erode your credibility.

MileHigh

Milehigh,
You make it clear what you understand and don't - and you make it clear what your opinions are - God Bless them - you waste my valuable time and my energy.
Nearly everyone of your notes are character attacks and disinformation.
Happy Memorial Day, time for a hot dog and some fishing!
Good day.

MileHigh · « **Reply #119 on:** May 29, 2012, 01:19:04 AM »

Wayne:

They are not character attacks and disinformation, you are just trying to spin it that way. Between this forum and the article on pesn dot com you are simply getting feedback from people with differing opinions. You are promoting buoyancy as a way to get free energy and the problem is that buoyancy as a mechanism for free energy has never worked. So the burden of proof is on you and realistically, we have no verifiable proof that you have something.

Sure, the story sounds great. You have engaged with engineers and the people in your home town have helped you out. It all sounds pretty cool but we have only got your words to go on.

When do you plan on offering the world definitive proof and how do you plan on going about to accomplish that? Is there something wrong with that question?

Don't try to spin plain talk as something else.

MileHigh

PS:

This comment from you:

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How many kwh can a 100kw system provide depends on the system

The answer is that it doesn't depend on the "system" and quite honestly I don't know what "system" you are referring to. A 100 kW system can produce 100 kWh of energy in one hour, or 2400 kWh of energy in 24 hours. There is no dependence on anything like you are trying to imply. Your choice of words indicates that you are not familiar with the terminology relating to electrical power and energy. If you are developing these kinds of alleged free energy systems based on buoyancy you should be familiar with all of this terminology and how to use it properly.

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