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Author Topic: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.  (Read 22164 times)

eisnad karm

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2011, 06:52:29 AM »
Hi Alan
I am sorry to hear of you ill health.
I am not after your design but given what you have siad can I ask the same questions you asked Pro
Does it accelerate or maintain a steady speed?
How long have you ran it?
There are ways and means of doing things without having to give things away on forums.
Look at the solar industry..now manufacturing under a $1 per watt and in some countires like where I live the government pays you 70% of the cost of installing them. Green and even free energies have gone mainstream. Another example is Rossi...if that pans out no one is making threats to him or his associates.
Kind Regards




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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2011, 02:36:03 PM »
Hi Alan
I am sorry to hear of you ill health.
I am not after your design but given what you have siad can I ask the same questions you asked Pro
Does it accelerate or maintain a steady speed?
How long have you ran it?
There are ways and means of doing things without having to give things away on forums.
Look at the solar industry..now manufacturing under a $1 per watt and in some countires like where I live the government pays you 70% of the cost of installing them. Green and even free energies have gone mainstream. Another example is Rossi...if that pans out no one is making threats to him or his associates.
Kind Regards

May be our fears are just that. fear
The one wheel that I am finally ready to revisit was not self starting which I made clear. Once started it was running for several minutes (10-15?) with a knocking and it was not making a full shift. I reached up to expand the stand and found the knock the hard way, with my thumb and lost 1/2 of my thumbnail. The part of the wheel broke as well. So what was I afraid of as my emotions grew? A massive life style change? No more privacy? It was funnier for I could not be happier at the time, nor I could not be more afraid. I put it to the side but worked on paper how to get the full shift for the power. This part has been corrected. On the other wheel testing a single mechanism was 100% effective. Both of these designs are expected to be very strong.
 As for my health it is a set back, and maybe God or the fates that allowed me to go down before bringing me back up so I will fully understand my purpose.

Time will tell
Alan

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2011, 03:07:01 PM »
Alan
Changing the world starts with the Guy in the mirror!
"saving the world" ,A much bigger job!
No Room for wishy washy There,A different road Must be Taken
And the trip doesn't start with a visit to the Lawyers office!
It will take Courage ,which springs forth from Love ,and Conviction!!

No one has been able to get past the fear..............
I believe that will take Faith!

Children and Boys are loosing their Feet and much more right now as I type.

Enough is enough!!

I hope you heal fast!!
Chet


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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2011, 03:38:08 PM »
Thanks Chet

 Good words for thought.

Alan

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2011, 04:35:23 PM »
.....Another example is Rossi...if that pans out no one is making threats to him or his associates.
Kind Regards

I hope you're right, but I recall reading how just a few years ago Dr. Swartz' manufacturing facility in Japan had 20,000 of his FE units built and ready for shipping when 'they' stepped in and pulled the plug, confiscating the lot!  And last time I visited his web-site, he made no bones about the fact that there had been threats involved.  I have no doubt that Rossi has also been threatened. 

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2011, 05:38:44 PM »
protech

Just a couple of questions.

Does it self start or do you have to give it a push?

Does it accelerate or maintain a steady speed?

How long have you ran it?

One of my wheels originally had to be push and ran at approximately 60 RPM.
Then I got my thumb busted up trying to make an adjustment.
My new changes I hope for a self start on that design. Of course I won't show it until I am ready.
My latest design is a slow build but takes advantage of 100% of the weight, 100% of the time.
It will self start. It is not the first wheel but the strongest that will save the earth.

Good luck
Alan

Alan my device is not a wheel as I was not trying to replicate Bessler , and depending where it is stopped it can self start, as for gain it increases, the longest I have run it without stopping is just over a day, hard to keep my hands off it. . oh and congratulations on your wheel.   

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2011, 07:42:39 PM »
Good luck everyone with their work.  Who is Rossi?  What has he built?

IMO, Either open source or sell plans everyone can afford but before doing that sell local and if you sell even one or two to established members here that will validate your device beyond any doubt and then you'll be selling plans and or devices like hotcakes. 

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2011, 03:10:54 AM »
Alan my device is not a wheel as I was not trying to replicate Bessler , and depending where it is stopped it can self start, as for gain it increases, the longest I have run it without stopping is just over a day, hard to keep my hands off it. . oh and congratulations on your wheel.

protech

Thanks and I looked at your post and understand what you are doing with first glance. I have played with similar approaches but not like your base. It may or may not drive a generator, but it looks like a lot of fun.

Alan

eisnad karm

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2011, 12:06:52 PM »
@Alan
thanks for the update. I look forward to how you progress and pray for your speedy recovery.
One of the first things I ask inventors of disruptive technologies when evaluating them and discussing business models is what do you want IE
1. To be famous?
2. To be Invisible?
3. Recognition?
3. Do you want to have a large component of the money for humanitarian projects?
I also discuss how they want to implement the technology as it can effect many people not just the wealthy.
The safest path if people have fears is to licence and partner the people or companies they affect the most. (long discussion on that topic)
Money can change people and not always for the better. In many ways in capitalist countries I visit I have seen often and sadly a shift where people judge each other on wealth rather than character and deeds. Often the family is more disfunctional. In many poorer countres I see happy people with a sense of character and family values.
Having said all that some of the nicest people I have met are wealthy or famous but all tell of the price they pay.
@Pro
when it ran for a day did you stop it or did it stop by itself ...i understand the difficulties of keeping your hands of it.
Kind Regards
Mark
PS Rossie has a device 300 watts in and up to 10 KW out. There also exists other technologies that also could be considered OU that will hit the market place in a couple of years..well under the radar at themoment
Kind Regards
mark

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2011, 03:23:37 PM »
@Alan
thanks for the update. I look forward to how you progress and pray for your speedy recovery.
One of the first things I ask inventors of disruptive technologies when evaluating them and discussing business models is what do you want IE
1. To be famous?
2. To be Invisible?
3. Recognition?
3. Do you want to have a large component of the money for humanitarian projects?
I also discuss how they want to implement the technology as it can effect many people not just the wealthy.
The safest path if people have fears is to licence and partner the people or companies they affect the most. (long discussion on that topic)
Money can change people and not always for the better. In many ways in capitalist countries I visit I have seen often and sadly a shift where people judge each other on wealth rather than character and deeds. Often the family is more disfunctional. In many poorer countres I see happy people with a sense of character and family values.
Having said all that some of the nicest people I have met are wealthy or famous but all tell of the price they pay.
@Pro
when it ran for a day did you stop it or did it stop by itself ...i understand the difficulties of keeping your hands of it.
Kind Regards
Mark
PS Rossie has a device 300 watts in and up to 10 KW out. There also exists other technologies that also could be considered OU that will hit the market place in a couple of years..well under the radar at themoment
Kind Regards
mark

eisnad karm

 I am a blacksmith/armorer who works with his hands and hart.  You have asked.

1. To be famous?
 This is probably my biggest fear.
2. To be Invisible?
 Nor do I want to be invisible
3. Recognition?
 Credit due to whom it belongs
4. Do you want to have a large component of the money for humanitarian projects?
 To me money is a tool and a tool used correctly can build beautiful things and humanitarian reason is beautiful. If a tool is use wrong or not used it becomes useless or destructive and can hurt yourself and others.

I only judge people by their character, not by their wealth for no one is truly a better person than another, but what they do in life can be better or worse. I understand the poor for that has been most of my life. It pains me to see so many who suffer. When I see people who are handicapped and/or sick, I hurt for I also live in pain, and understand. It hurts me more that am so limited to help.

The question you didn't ask directly is. Am I doing this for selfish reasons? The only thing I would want for myself is a proper retirement where I didn't have to worry if I am strong enough to make a life for my family. But if I had enough the world would be my family, like it should be. Then I would spend the rest of my days trying to improve life.


Alan

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2011, 09:17:52 PM »
I'm with you on that one Alan. I feel the exact same way.

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2011, 10:59:20 PM »
5 days later... where is it ?

ramset

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Re: Bessler was no fraud.Proof available in one day.
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2011, 02:25:19 AM »
Air striker
Lets see.................
Christo4 Said he got it!! He figured out Bessler,started another thread just to tell everyone!

And "no" He ain't telling [how its done]
Just wants us to know it can be done [sweet guy].

And the Fellow Bill "protech" ,he started a thread also "W.K. Coombs
Gravity thingy",He started to share "how its done" But hasn't been back to help with a replication yet?

Chet