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Author Topic: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement  (Read 53969 times)

Offline Low-Q

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2011, 11:25:41 AM »
noo... it is not repelled by the magnetism, it is repelled by gravity as that part of the track is tilted upwards.... trust me, the entering of the gate is no problem, the problem is exiting the gate (with out assistance from gravity).
OK. I thought the glassplate was straight with no curves. Sorry.

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2011, 04:20:01 PM »
What a great site this is . Thank you for all the feed back! Buy the way I picked up another 1/8" last night so I am 3/8" away. This is less than the diameter of the ball which is 1/2". I did this by tapering down the 1/2" walls on the receiving uchannel at the enterance and adding additional magnets to pull the ball into the SMOT.
We may all argue a little but I respect everyone here!

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2011, 04:47:08 PM »
Hi Billmehess,

An idea maybe is a clear flexible tube with a low road bend in the middle going up to your gate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzZ9AKwZw28&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bK5JaU8nMg&feature=related

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2011, 10:50:59 PM »

I am not sure that energywise there is any difference between going on Low or High road for the ball (I know you did not claim such) but using the flexible tube that ends at just the entrance point of the smot ramp seems to give one more chance for testing to close the loop.

The curved path giving a time advantage versus a straight one was discovered by Galileo, see this interesting link:
http://www.sewanee.edu/physics/TAAPT/TAAPTTALK.html 

I repeat: it is a good idea to use a clear flexible tube for this smot test. Use a tube with higher enough diameter than the ball so that inside air would not cause energy loss (make some holes on the top of the tube too).

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2011, 10:53:05 PM »
It might be worthwhile to have a length of cast iron
pipe. They used this in city-gas, compressed air and fire
sprinkler distribution systems. This may be of use to
isolate a steel runner (not a magnet) from the influence
of external magnetic fields if the runner misbehaves
and it is not at an end. Just heat the plastic tube
and slide it over the iron pipe and do the opposite
at the other end. The external mag field should flow
around in the body of the pipe leaving the ball inside
alone to roll on.

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Offline billmehess

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2011, 09:06:25 AM »
Monday 12:00 am I have closed the distance between the entry level uchannel and the
plate to 1/4" which is 1/2 the diameter of the SMOT ball.
Bill

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2011, 09:28:55 AM »
Monday 12:00 am I have closed the distance between the entry level uchannel and the
plate to 1/4" which is 1/2 the diameter of the SMOT ball.
Bill

Hi Bill,

Very good news, I am looking forward to your fully defeating the rest distance too.

Earlier you mentioned a drag-free solution to induce some mW power for flashing a LED (or whatever) to demonstrate the smot is able to produce some extra 'juice'  (besides moving around the mass of the ball). How is it done I wonder.

Thanks, Gyula

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Offline billmehess

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2011, 05:13:58 PM »
On my next video I wall show the SMOT producing voltage. It will not be lighting  a LED though as this would require around 2 volts. I will be showing a capacitor charging up.
The SMOT device is very  scaleable for increased energy production. There is NO load on the ball.
I am down to my last 1/4"
Bill
« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 08:16:42 PM by billmehess »

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2011, 08:51:51 PM »
@billmehess,

Good work so far. One thing you may want to have on hand, if
your device works is some 3M Antistatic spray, Cautiously applied
to the plastic tube. Apparently these kinds of device can generate
a static charge, potentially increasing unexpected behaviors. You
want the runner ball to go around, not necessarily having your
setup lifting off. :-)


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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2011, 12:14:49 AM »
@billmehess,

Good work so far. One thing you may want to have on hand, if
your device works is some 3M Antistatic spray, Cautiously applied
to the plastic tube. Apparently these kinds of device can generate
a static charge, potentially increasing unexpected behaviors. You
want the runner ball to go around, not necessarily having your
setup lifting off. :-)
Thank you Mark  as usual your input on a subject is worth its weight in gold
Bill

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2011, 12:47:49 AM »
Bill,
Wow a real Cliffhanger...........................
1/4 inch?

This will be the Drop that was heard around the world!!

Chet

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
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Offline billmehess

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2011, 01:59:32 AM »
Bill,
Wow a real Cliffhanger...........................
1/4 inch?

This will be the Drop that was heard around the world!!

Chet
I think your right. When this happens I plan to get a space at a facility in Oregon to show it to all intersted parties.
In Portland we have a museum called OMSI which stands for the Oregon Museum of Science & Industry. It is one of the premier attractions and drawns many 100 of thousands people per year.
I put together a basic SMOT and took it over to their physics lab and they really liked it. They are showing this in their lab which is open to the public right in the museum. If they would allow it this is where I would show the working closed loop device. I know the person who runs the lab so I will talk to him when the time is right. I would also hook up a live internet stream from their location if they would permit that. But first things first 1/4" to go.
Bill
« Last Edit: April 05, 2011, 02:36:12 AM by billmehess »

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2011, 07:42:22 AM »
I think your right. When this happens I plan to get a space at a facility in Oregon to show it to all intersted parties.
In Portland we have a museum called OMSI which stands for the Oregon Museum of Science & Industry. It is one of the premier attractions and drawns many 100 of thousands people per year.
I put together a basic SMOT and took it over to their physics lab and they really liked it. They are showing this in their lab which is open to the public right in the museum. If they would allow it this is where I would show the working closed loop device. I know the person who runs the lab so I will talk to him when the time is right. I would also hook up a live internet stream from their location if they would permit that. But first things first 1/4" to go.
Bill

All the best mate :)

Pete

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2011, 09:25:06 PM »
@bill,

If and when it works and you show it. It would be nice
if you would put up a very short biography of yourself.
This will be somewhat of a historic occasion and potentially
lead to other breakthroughs in other fields.

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Re: SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2011, 10:46:09 PM »
   Just a thought I really not familiar with a SMOT in any way. That being said it looks like the 1st ramp accelerates the ball up slightly, could you get the 1/4 in. you need by using another magnetic ramp at the end of the loop to drop the ball into the 1st ramp?
  Lots of luck Pete

 

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