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Author Topic: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!  (Read 7783 times)

Offline Low-Q

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Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« on: March 26, 2011, 12:43:19 PM »
NEVER put money into others "free energy" projects. NEVER do investments when it regards "free energy". NEVER trust people who claims they have found free energy.

If one almost have a true running free energy device, but need more money to complete the project, they can have a loan in the bank!

NEVER send money to people you don't know or trust.

The words "Free energy" should in any case make some bells ringing.... As indicated; If there is a true free energy device out there, the inventor doesn't need your money.

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Offline MrMag

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2011, 01:10:29 PM »
Sounds like someone got burned.

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2011, 01:15:36 PM »
Sounds like someone got burned.
Not me, but I can smell the smoke coming from all directions. I have read enough about scammed people, and I also read on this forum about people who possibly wants to buy "free energy" products. People need to hear this. It's just that I wanted to say :)

Edit: I will continue with theoretical inputs, ideas etc., but I would never put money into a "free energy" project.

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2011, 01:15:36 PM »
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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2011, 03:32:29 PM »
NEVER put money into others "free energy" projects. NEVER do investments when it regards "free energy". NEVER trust people who claims they have found free energy.

If one almost have a true running free energy device, but need more money to complete the project, they can have a loan in the bank!

NEVER send money to people you don't know or trust.

The words "Free energy" should in any case make some bells ringing.... As indicated; If there is a true free energy device out there, the inventor doesn't need your money.

Vidar

Very well put :)

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2011, 08:12:47 AM »
"Never invest in free energy"....... I have to admit - even now that seems crazy. I have had friends and family invest over $375,000 since I made my first discovery - in the hope it might reach my goal.

Of course, I approached the "money" as you suggest skeptical to an extreme - I asked that it was an invested in me - or nothing, not the machine. I explained to each of them - only a fool would invest in this - the world thinks it is impossible, many have tried. 

Thank God they pushed the investment -and I had the revenue, because it took seven models before we were able to build a machine that was capable of using my design and functioning over unity and close looped.

p.s. Before I took the money, I hired a PE to prove my machine did not work, after he failed in force, energy, and power tests,  -  he invested - and asked to be added to the patent...

Guilty until proven innocent - in the overunity world.

My work will bring more than a new energy to the world, it will inspire new research.

I can't find a tab to post mine, but you can see pictures of it on my web site www.mrwaynesbrain.com

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Offline Poit

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2011, 08:19:15 AM »
no matter how I put this you will be offended, so I may as well just be blunt...

I don't believe you.... and my proof is time........ 24 months from now... even 12 months from now, if your invention is out there in the market and people can buy and use it I will eat my words... but sadly, I will be right - nothing will happen. (see, I don't actually want to be right), but inevitably I will be proven right, given time..

For me to be right means nothing will happen.... no matter what you say now, it all means absolutely NOTHING till SOMETHING happens (i.e a product for sale that is OU that anyone can purchase) I don't care if you have a patent on it, so long as someone can buy it, I will be proven wrong.


EDIT - omg!! I just had a look at your web site.... first line I read "We are trying to get the word out, we need YOUR help going into production." DING DING DING SCAM ALERT!!!

DO you honestly expect us to believe you need help funding a device that is commonly asserted to be impossible?!! It is an insult to peoples intelligence, not to mention it is an outright BS scam!! and you need to be locked up .

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2011, 09:07:12 AM »
Thank you, I am not offended. Of course a scam alert - any mention of a over unity device should have red flags.

But don't be too emotional. If it does not work, it will go away, right?

And if it does not - you will appreciate the benefit to society.

You think asking for help is too much - in fact enough to go to jail for?

Hmm, Good thing the I have the proof to keep my freedom :)





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Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 09:18:47 AM »
Why not share it here as this is, after all, an open source forum.  If not, then why be here?

I mean no disrespect at all.  I am just pointing out that this is what this forum is all about.

If you do indeed "have it" then I wish you well but I also hope that you share this idea with the world.

Bill

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2011, 09:40:52 AM »
Very liked this thread.

I personally have "invested" a lot in this hobby with a open eye in potential local exploitation of any OU effect (no dreams in mass production etc) but no a hint of any OU yet.
And yes, any OU claimer is put directly from me to "scam" quarantine until proven otherwise, thing that have not happened so far.

@ The "inventor"

Open your eyes and search the web. there are at least one hundred OU sites and corporations that claim they have a patented OU device.
Of course, you are aware of that i guess.

Bottom line, nothing special.

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2011, 09:42:15 AM »
The Pirate asks to share - that made me laugh - no offense it is just funny irony :D

I am new here, I have been watching for a year or so, and I agree with my other friend.

I also stood before a grant committee with 5 Engineers, two brainiac s and a team of managers who "with the complete designs and explanation, engineering modeling, and proof - stood there with only one thing to say - it just can't work, it just cant, it just cant - too many people have tried, it must be a scam (Such faith!).

Anyway - I wil share - I love to shae, this has been a great adventure!

but as I said earlier - not on this thread.

I need a thread that is titled "Diffirential pressure exchange device" or something.


I will see what I can do, there are pictures on my web site - if you can keep from gaging  ;D



 

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2011, 09:50:15 AM »
The Pirate asks to share - that made me laugh - no offense it is just funny irony :D

I am new here, I have been watching for a year or so, and I agree with my other friend.

I also stood before a grant committee with 5 Engineers, two brainiac s and a team of managers who "with the complete designs and explanation, engineering modeling, and proof - stood there with only one thing to say - it just can't work, it just cant, it just cant - too many people have tried, it must be a scam (Such faith!).

Anyway - I wil share - I love to shae, this has been a great adventure!

but as I said earlier - not on this thread.

I need a thread that is titled "Diffirential pressure exchange device" or something.


I will see what I can do, there are pictures on my web site - if you can keep from gaging  ;D



 

I am reasonably intelligent yet I guess I missed the irony.  You owe no explanation yet I am curious.  I have shared everything I have ever developed here, but, it was because of the other smart folks here that enabled me to do so.

Bill

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2011, 10:14:36 AM »
Cool, I figured out how to add a heading to the thread in water/ wave capture.

I posted a very simple explanation, it is late, I will check back tommorrow.

Well, the irony was "Pirate" - which means to copy and steal - was asking to be trusted with open content.

Kind a like - let me hold your wallet......I am a pirate.

If I were the worrying type - that would scare me... ;)

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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2011, 10:26:29 AM »
OK, I guess I get it.  I suppose this means that you do not really know me and my history on here.  That is fine.  It is understandable.

Bill

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2011, 06:09:53 PM »
mrwayne,  I'm going to say I believe you have an overunity invention.  I looked at your web site and just from intuition I've learned to trust I think you are being honest and have some 'thing' that is overunity.  However from what I see I think there is one rather large concern.  Maybe you can address it.  From the pictures the unit looks like it is quite large and from that I expect it will be fairly expensive just for materials to build.  Yet that very large unit states it generates only 500 watts of power.  So the biggest problem I think you have may not be proving overunity but proving this can be affordable and competitive even in the long run.  I may be wrong if this can be scaled up so a slightly larger unit could produce 100k watts.  But from what I see you would need a large room in a house just to have one with enough power for an average home.  Based on what I'm seeing I would guess a solar/wind system with battery bank would be cheaper. 

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Re: Investing money in free energy: Rule of thumb!
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2011, 07:21:06 PM »
Thanks Ematirx,

I was very upset about the size - the Grant committie insisted on the size, they wanted 40 watts of free energy for proof.

It also worked well to have only one weld per sheet of metal - we had to build it all.

And there is 5 layers inside each tank.

The cost to upsize is very small, in fact the equipment that you see hooked to the system is sized for a 40kw system.

Since the design uses compressed buoyancy, 11/1 compression, doubling the initial size means adding 10 inches to the diameter. and then multiply the output by 11.

So adding 10 inches to the diameter changes the system from 500 watts to 11,000 watts - and so on.

My personal opinion is this ROI, the  100kw system cost about $150,000 to build including the generator.

My engineer has modeled up to 500kw

And at .10 cents a kWh - the machine will make about $100,000 Worth of electricity.

Depending how much the mark up is, it can pay for itself pretty quickly.

 Thanks for the support!


 

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