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Author Topic: TPU-style flux cancellation , possible energetic anomalies in operation (video)  (Read 7397 times)

Feynman

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Hey guys,

I was surfing youtube free energy video for inspiration, and I came across a really interesting video from a guy who's been playing with ferrite toroidal transformers.  I am posting it here because I think it needs critical attention from minds sharper than myself.

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http://www.youtube.com/user/MindFreer#p/a/u/0/7Efvq65RVTo

From what I can tell, the guy in the video is loading the primary of his toroidal transformer with 120VAC in, BUT the primaries are wound in a strange way. 

The primary is 'split' in the sense that half the primary is wound CW on the toroid, then goes to a load, and then half the primary is wound CCW.  Based on what I can tell, this would cancel (or reduce) the magnetic flux in the core according to conventional EM theory.   

The result , however, is that he is able to power a weak load on the secondary , which went it is connected, reduces the current draw on the primary (as measured by clamp-on current meter on Pin).   Very strange.

I'd like to hear people's thoughts because I couldn't find discussion of this video on overunity.com when I searched for his youtube username.   I'm wondering whether people have known explanations for this, whether they've experimented with this, whether it's a surprise to them or not, etc.  Inductive reactance perhaps?

Cheers,
Feynman







Magluvin

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Hey Fey  ;]

I liked the concept when looking at the first drawing. 

Some things i didnt like.


1  the fact that in the demo, we didnt get to see both light bulbs. ;]
2  The one bulb we saw was a cfl. I was expecting like a 100w err sumthin.

3, why was it pulling 10A ?  Must have been a 1kw bulb that we couldnt see.  10A? 

I really liked the initial concept. But it went down hill from there.

And on that small core winding stand, how the heck does he get the loop of plastic tubing into the core if the tubing is loaded with wire? ;]

I have the flu right now, 3 days in, coughing like a chainsaw. Could it be I am delusional?  ;]

Also, lets say that the first drawing shown with few windings, has the bulb lit through the 2 windings on the core, I would have to say that loading the secondary bulb would just kill it all.  I think.   me sick =[

Seems he is serious but I have strong initial doubts.

I would like to try his method using few windings and high freq.

Mags


Thaelin

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   What he plugged into the line side plug was a heater. This he said plainly. As for the output, the cfl was flickering badly which means it was under powered. You should have ask for the voltage reading on the cfl side "with" the load on it. That would show a very low voltage. Nothing to perk my interest here. Did see this some time ago and passed it over then too.

thay

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Some things i didnt like.

1  the fact that in the demo, we didnt get to see both light bulbs. ;]
-Magluvin

In the demo, the load on the primary is a ceramic heater instead of a bulb.  He did this to increase the amperage being pulled throught the primary.

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2  The one bulb we saw was a cfl. I was expecting like a 100w err sumthin.
I agree.  That was underwhelming.  I mean, lasersaber from these forums is running a TON of CFLs using a modified JT using just a capacitor.  It's not so much the results this guy achieves as is the concept underlying it (two opposite winding directions on primary).

I figured I'd paste it so people can look and evaluate.   The reason mainly it interested me is because of the way the primaries were wound.  (CCW and  CW on primary , with load in between). 

That particular configuration (opposing primary windings) reminded me quite strongly of the
"Self-running Coil?" thread from here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8892.0


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And on that small core winding stand, how the heck does he get the loop of plastic tubing into the core if the tubing is loaded with wire? ;]

I didn't quite understand that part either.  The only way I can see is if he loaded the plastic tubing with wire while it was on the core.


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Also, lets say that the first drawing shown with few windings, has the bulb lit through the 2 windings on the core, I would have to say that loading the secondary bulb would just kill it all. 


That would be my first guess as well, but the CFL lights up, albeit weakly.

In his drawing the primary load is a bulb, but during the demo he uses a ceramic heater for the primary load instead.   To me what's a bit strange is that he can light the CFL on the secondary and the input current to the heater apparently goes down on the amp meter, but maybe this is inductive reactance or something.

The main question is what kind of 'anomaly/measurement error' we are dealing with... working against anything significant is that the current draw on the CFL is much much smaller than the heater; a CFL in normal operation probably draws around 20 watts -- one of those ceramic heaters probably draws like 300-1500 watts, so we are talking one to two orders of magnitude.   

So anyway, perhaps there is nothing here, but it caught my eye... I didn't want to let a good lead escape notice.

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me sick =[

That sucks; my gf got the flu last week, so it's going around for sure. 

Magluvin

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Ahh  yes I am delusional. =]    A heater.  ok

It was interesting.  ;]

I had a brain fart today.  I dont know if you have ever seen my Orbonbon ( solid state orbo, Had it out about a month before Naudins).
Im getting ready to hit it up with some cap discharge.

Should have a vid tomorrow. Will present in my Magluvins Oven thread.

Anyways, I still like the running a load with the primary while producing to a secondary.   I think if it were a 100w bulb instead of a heater, the secondary would have hurt the primary bulb when drawing, thus 1kw heater. =]   Hmm  exchange the heater with another transformer?   Ill think more on it when im not so dizzy. ;]


Mags

e2matrix

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There are several message threads that have brought up this vid.  I asked a month or two ago about it and tried the essential setup.  You need to be pulling a continous 1000 watts or so to get anything useful and based on the responses I've had and seen elsewhere about it this is not free energy.  I decided that even if it was it is not a good idea since you have to be using a lot of energy to just possibly get a little extra.  I look at the bottom line with a setup like this.  Can it be self-running if looped?  Not in any way I can see. 

turbo

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ono E2Matrix your looking at this the wrong way!

Imagine this sucker being in a 2 Gigawatt field already!
Preferably near or close to power lines.
And it is working the way around you only need to put in that tiny amount to get out the 10 amps!

Who said something about cancelling the flux?   DING DONG !!

Feynman

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Yeah the flickering CFL was some weaksauce , but I like the idea of the opposing windings.

I'm going to buy a powdered iron toroid for my Boyce TPU replication -- perhaps tests with opposing primaries might be worthwhile.

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The flickering is not due to low power but it is a result of frequency division!!
When this technique is used the frequency changes to 25Hz or 30Hz depending on the grid frequency..
This makes the bulb behave different.

e2matrix

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marco,  do you think this is a useful way to get power?  OU?  I'm mostly going by what others told me here when I brought this up in another thread a while back.  Didn't the guy in the vid say it would mostly be useful in a place where you have a continuous fairly high power drain device running?  Have you tried a setup like this?