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Title: Please put OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: Goat on March 19, 2011, 03:14:02 AM
Hi All

Since Tito started another similar thread and is refusing to co-operate with divulging his secret OU circuit and trying to divert the last assault to his Mylow ways I invite everyone else on this forum (or others) to disclose a working OU circuit that we can all replicate.

There's been talk of COP>1 circuits and many over that amount lately and I would love for everyone to come together and make at least one small OU device come to fruition with everyone's collaboration for a change. 

Please no flame wars, just real circuits that can prove COP>1.5 or better.

Regards,
Paul

Edit: @ Pirate88179

I respect your intellect and opened mindedness in all the years I've been here, as well I hope you get the reason why I opened this thread.  This forum and thread needs your attention as a moderator in order for it not to go down the drain.  In short I need your help if you can. I've suggested this in the past and I know it would take some time but it would keep everything in perspective, in order for this thread to not fall like all the others filled with garbage I suggest the following:

1.  Moderate this thread so that it only includes working OU circuits that can be built/tested and validated by anyone who can follow a proper testing protocol.

2. Open a second thread with all ongoing circuit replications and collaboration between interested people.

3.  Open a third thread and THROW ALL THE NEGATIVE/BS/TROLL/GARBAGE from thread 1 and 2 in thread 3 so they can all silence thread 1 and 2...;)


Regards,
Paul

Title: Re: Please put here OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2011, 03:28:46 AM
Like I said, here's one OU circuit you can all replicate: http://actascientiae.org/v/comments.php?DiscussionID=9&page=1#Item_4 . This is the only circuit that I know of conclusively demonstrating OU.
Title: Re: Please put OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: Goat on March 19, 2011, 03:50:48 AM
Thank you Omnibus for your reply and contribution but have you tested this circuit or is it a simulation? 

I looked at your link at http://actascientiae.org/v/comments.php?DiscussionID=9&page=1#Item_4 but seemed to be a simulation. 

Not to discourage you or anyone else but as I posted in the edit above I would like for anyone to come forward in this thread with a working OU circuit for everyone to replicate.

I'm not saying that simulations aren't valid just that they should be included in thread 2....all the rest of the usual BS would go into thread 3 ;)

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: Please put OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2011, 09:49:29 AM
Last Summer I did a thorough experimental study of this kind of circuits and I was posting experimental results here on this board. I guess these posting start somewhere here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.3045 as @teslaalset helped me find them. The last schematic and analysis is the crown jewel of this study. Try is and you'll see it for yourwelf. There's nothing else that I know of in the OU research that not only demonstrates OU but that OU can be seen in such a straightforward manner. If you don't have expensive equipment to carry out the measurements (mind you, only the current probe was on the order of $3000 which is as much as the oscilloscope itself) the simulation with PSpice, freely downloadable from the net is equally as good. Try to see it for yourself.
Title: Re: Please put OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: MrMag on March 19, 2011, 06:30:34 PM
Have you calculated the COP of this circuit? It seems to me that if you need expensive equipment to measure it, there can't be much there.
Title: Re: Please put OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2011, 06:34:35 PM
That's ridiculous. First off, there's no such term as COP in science. Second, the minute you see negative input power you should know better to not even ask about coefficient of efficiency because it's infinity.
Title: Re: Please put OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: MrMag on March 19, 2011, 07:02:43 PM
That's ridiculous. First off, there's no such term as COP in science. Second, the minute you see negative input power you should know better to not even ask about coefficient of efficiency because it's infinity.

I can believe that the scientists haven't heard of this term yet. It means coefficient of performance. That's the thing with scientist, if it doesn't fit within their comfortable little laws, it's not relevant. They need to update their encyclopedias.

So, OK, you put negative voltage in, what do you get out? There must be some kind of gain in the circuit to show OU isn't there?
Title: Re: Please put OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2011, 07:05:56 PM
I can believe that the scientists haven't heard of this term yet. It means coefficient of performance. That's the thing with scientist, if it doesn't fit within their comfortable little laws, it's not relevant. They need to update their encyclopedias.

So, OK, you put negative voltage in, what do you get out? There must be some kind of gain in the circuit to show OU isn't there?

See, the thing is, since you've set yourself to deal with this stuff you should know the answer to the above question at once. Why do you at all bother to participate in these discussions here if you can't figure out those elementary things?
Title: Re: Please put OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: MrMag on March 19, 2011, 07:17:08 PM
See, the thing is, since you've set yourself to deal with this stuff you should know the answer to the above question at once. Why do you at all bother to participate in these discussions here if you can't figure out those elementary things?

I participate because I like to learn new things. I guess that's why everyone is here. I really don't understand the rest of your comment.

So, can you answer my question please?
Title: Re: Please put OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2011, 07:20:52 PM
I participate because I like to learn new things. I guess that's why everyone is here. I really don't understand the rest of your comment.

So, can you answer my question please?

No, that's not why you're here. If it were you wouldn't express final opinions, wouldn't call people names but would humbly listen more and try to learn. So, correct your behavior and we may talk.
Title: Re: Please put OU circuits only here - Part 2
Post by: MrMag on March 19, 2011, 07:46:41 PM
No, that's not why you're here. If it were you wouldn't express final opinions, wouldn't call people names but would humbly listen more and try to learn. So, correct your behavior and we may talk.

This thread is for showing OU circuits, not for flaming. If you don't have the data of your Pin/Pout, why did you even post here.