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Author Topic: New attempt for Thestatika...  (Read 18972 times)

gauschor

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Re: New attempt for Thestatika...
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2014, 12:02:57 AM »
Rather then using a spark gap to create RF radio frequency I believe the Testatica machine
uses a radio frequency power oscillator using the single, purpose built, vacuum tube. The wimshurst machine can supply a high voltage for the vacuum tube plate supply. This is a much more
efficient method of producing RF radio frequency AC signal than a spark gap. This allows very simple
light air core transformers to be used to step down the AC RF power signal.

The other method the Testatica uses to step down voltage is the "inverse voltage multiplier" this
a mechanical multiplexor switch that stacks constant capacitive sections into series, applies high
voltage DC, splits the capacitive sections into parallel then outputs the lower DC voltage at higher
current.

The reason the testaica machine is built from carbon like a MOV metal oxide varisistor is that
it is running "full out" only during certain conditions, not at all times. This requires self regulation
They eventually wanted to synthesize 220VAC at 50HZdirectly. Taps from the RF transformers combined
with switch based multiplexor can synthesize the sinewave. Meanwhile the main wheel rotates
at 50Hz timing rate. Those Antenna keys allow multiple machine to operate nearby each other without
synchronization and power sharing.

The key is that the overunity energy comes from the basic wimshurst machine itself not from side effects
of hand built components. This will be shown more directly in the future by operation wimshurst machine
using higher power electrostatic mechanical motors. I think this capacitive coupling to the wimshurst
energy-pickoff is a key to getting output voltages down into semiconductor range and to eliminate
brush wear. Be aware that capacitive coupling will require resistive equalization to occur on the wheel and the
inefficiency implied by this.

A better way may be to indeed operate the Wimshurst machine full-out with a high voltage static mechanical
drive then let secondary electronics accept all extra energy produced.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Thanks a lot, this is very useful information. I guess no way leads around to investigate these matters (keywords marked in bold) more indepth (before continuing theorizing, while at the same time feeling that my previous concepts hit a dead end).

gauschor

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Re: New attempt for Thestatika...
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2014, 12:00:11 PM »
Thinking again about the current multiplier, how should this be switched from in series to parallel?

If switched mechanically it would certainly introduce a lot of new problems. If switched electronically by microcontrollers (I have no experience with them) it reminds me that the Testatika never used any of these sophisticated components.

Also I am stuck with the vaccum tubes or radio tubes, which are only supposed to work only by a heated cathode. Where do I produce sufficient heat to do that? I don't know, it sounds plausible but then it just doesn't fit into the picture we have from the Testatikas. Yes they have some sort of "tube", but if the tube was hot, then the visitors or Marinov would have mentioned it.

gauschor

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Re: New attempt for Thestatika...
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2014, 08:55:02 PM »
Today I had a new flash of inspiration:

1) Remember the Van-de-Graaff generator.
2) Remember its giant sphere collecting electrons until it reaches millions of volts.
3) The sphere DOES NOT have an opposing polarity (like a capacitor), so the charge is NOT BOUND and can move freely.
4) Now imagine the large pots of the Testatika were just spheres like these.
5) The rotating segments pull this giant charge into the antenna which is placed over the wheel

The alternating segments or empty areas in between produce a pull and push motion. An induction effect that is finally large enough to produce real current on a coil with a ferrite core (somewhere in between on the way to the pots).

Could this be the key? Is this the reason why the pots look so very thoroughly isolated? Because there are millions of volts in it?

TinselKoala

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Re: New attempt for Thestatika...
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2014, 09:19:08 PM »
Well, your description of the VDG isn't quite right, I think. It is a _charge separator_ and the bottom terminal takes on the opposite charge of the top terminal. VDGs can be either polarity depending on the roller/belt materials and which material is on the upper or lower rollers. Some VDGs don't really use a bottom capacity, they are connected to the Earth, which is a great source/sink for charge. But a good VDG will have its base smooth and symmetrical like its top, and so it will act as a capacitor "plate" with respect to the other "plate" of the top sphere. Sometimes a VDG will spark down the belt, making a spark between the top and bottom capacities via the shortest route.

I don't think there are millions of volts anywhere in a Testatika. I've heard, from one who has done it, that people have actually held the smallest one in hand while it was operating.

Khwartz

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Re: New attempt for Thestatika...
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2015, 01:17:16 PM »
Just updating. The wimshurst was built quickly, unfortunately the following experiments didn't show any sign of usable power. I combined the output to a JouleThief but the amperage was too low or the spikes too short to get the JT run (even when using transformers, rectifiers, caps).

I guess one can only understand the Testatika if one understands the "Testatika Principle Experiment" first. I eventually realized it makes no sense to start with any other experiments. Unfortunately this "Principle experiment" couldn't be reproduced either by various experimentors. Obviously even there Baumann used his 2 "magical" grid caps, where we don't know what is inside. Any sketches of what could be within these caps from 3rd parties such as Albert Hauser or Paul Potter are only guesses and speculation. This makes it basically useless  :(

Isn't it nice how mankind isn't ready for energy generators like this (the words from the Methernita...) when Atomic Power Plants explode? I hope they feel good about hiding their invention...
Wow! What a Nice Honest and Heartly Constructive statement you've made gauschor, I would be Glad that anyone here or there, has the Same Level Of Integrity, Good Sense and Care! :D (Y)

Regards, Didier.

Khwartz

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Re: New attempt for Thestatika...
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2015, 01:19:17 PM »
Too bad that nature (as we know it) wants to do nothing if it isn't told to do something (energy input). I wonder when mankind are able to replicate small "big bangs" - the reason why energy was created in the first place.
I guess we can agree one thing: Energy can be created (because we do have energy from somewhere), and probably it can be destroied also (consumed by dark energy...). We just don't know how this happens.

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