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Offline ibpointless2

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Re: batteries without metal electrodes and just cheap graphite and TiO2
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2011, 04:35:56 AM »
I did some test today to see if heat or pressure affects the voltage of the cells and come to find out that they don't really affect the voltage. My ideas seem to be false as to why these cell work, don't get me wrong they're still slightly affect but not enough to confirm it.

As to where the voltage comes from is still up in the air. I really don't know what powers these cells. Any one have a idea?

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Re: batteries without metal electrodes and just cheap graphite and TiO2
« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2011, 02:47:27 AM »
I don't know if this is a good thing or not but my longest running cell which has been shorted out since 2-24-11 has where the plates touch the water, have turn gold in color. There is still amount of voltage coming from the cell when the short is removed. This cell has been shorted out non stop since 2-24-11. There is no holes in the plates and the water is still clear, the only thing that changed is that the cell is now half gold in color. I Think this might be only affecting the aluminum foil as other aluminum cells that use aluminum nails or wire have not shown this, yet? I'm still puzzled by these cells, I thought by now one of the plates would have be consumed with holes in it but they're still strong as the day I put them in.


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Re: batteries without metal electrodes and just cheap graphite and TiO2
« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2011, 10:50:31 AM »
Hello Ib
This puzzles me too, as the pressure influence you mentioned before. (concrete has a long time rate to complete curation, . . even months !
I began the experiments with geometry shapes, and made a simple tetrahedron (5 cm side of face) in PVC foil, covered inside with aluminum duct foil (auto adhesive) and filled with distiled water.
with a enameled aluminum wire going strait from the center of a face, to the center of volume, and with only the tip exposed to water.
It started with 7 mV and after 1 hour shorted, went to  36 mV.
I´ll let it shorted a month to see if it further grows in voltage.
My next try is with a small pyramid also filled with water, and with Phi proportions.
Small contribution here, as we used to say in my country: a grain does not make a granary, but it helps his mate.
cheers
Alvaro

Offline ibpointless2

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Re: batteries without metal electrodes and just cheap graphite and TiO2
« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2011, 04:50:30 PM »
Hello Ib
This puzzles me too, as the pressure influence you mentioned before. (concrete has a long time rate to complete curation, . . even months !
I began the experiments with geometry shapes, and made a simple tetrahedron (5 cm side of face) in PVC foil, covered inside with aluminum duct foil (auto adhesive) and filled with distiled water.
with a enameled aluminum wire going strait from the center of a face, to the center of volume, and with only the tip exposed to water.
It started with 7 mV and after 1 hour shorted, went to  36 mV.
I´ll let it shorted a month to see if it further grows in voltage.
My next try is with a small pyramid also filled with water, and with Phi proportions.
Small contribution here, as we used to say in my country: a grain does not make a granary, but it helps his mate.
cheers
Alvaro


I've wonder what power i would get from a plate that was shaped like a pyramid. Shapes do seem to affect the power output.

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: batteries without metal electrodes and just cheap graphite and TiO2
« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2011, 05:00:38 PM »
Only one way to find out.  Hey, you never know right?

Bill

Offline ibpointless2

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Re: batteries without metal electrodes and just cheap graphite and TiO2
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2011, 05:46:10 AM »
I'm thinking the aluminum plates of the same metal water battery are like magnets. where a magnet would have a north pole and a south pole I find that the aluminum plates also have something like a north pole and a south pole. I've made a video showing that when I put one end of the plate into the water I get a negative voltage (south pole) and when I switch to the other end of the plate I get a positive voltage (north pole). Also You may notice that I get a higher voltage when I'm in the positive range and thats due to the other plate being attracted to the plate, Like a north pole of magnet being attracted to a south pole. So You could say that these cells are magnetic.

here's the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-To_TadRGI