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Author Topic: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing  (Read 8236 times)

Butch LaFonte

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Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
« on: March 01, 2011, 06:00:41 AM »
See attached and also this video link >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v9QQvfQChs
Could it be this simple?
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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM »
Hmmm - interesting. Though I think the lack of cogging are due to the friction you have, which will make the sense of cogging much less - or zero. Also, it doesn't take much energy to separate or close the bars while under the magnet. Try to decrease the gap between the magnets and the bars, and then make another try on a smoother surface.

I do think the bars separates for a reason. They also separates even if you have another set of bars behind it. The very same reason will hold back the magnets from escaping the magnets, even though it doesn't seems so in your experiment.

I whish you good luck anyways :)

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Butch LaFonte

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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 06:40:25 PM »
Hmmm - interesting. Though I think the lack of cogging are due to the friction you have, which will make the sense of cogging much less - or zero.
Vidar
Not only are we getting no cogging, the flat end of bar surface between the two open bars that faces the on coming magnet is acually pulling the closed bar set toward the magnet.
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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 09:01:11 PM »
Interesting, but until you do something with it, why are asking if this is proof of overunity? Not being sarcastic here but i can put two north facing magnets together and they push apart. Would that be considered overunity?

Butch LaFonte

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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 09:11:10 PM »
I though I would let you Einstein's do something with it, you don't seem to have anything else to do.
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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 01:03:03 AM »
Butch,
Just watched your video - very interesting. At first, I thought that it might work to put the separating mags on a wheel instead of a track - perhaps each pair held side by side by a spring, so that when they "doink" :) apart, they will go back together. However, I think your linear track idea might be better for harnessing the mechanical energy the separation. What springs to mind is a series of levers like the lifters in a car engine that would be moved out and/or up each time the magnets separate.

The problem with a linear track is that it has to end somewhere, and the horseshoe mag has to move back the other way. A wheel might ensure continuity, but I'm not sure how you could harness the mechanical energy, unless perhaps you had some other wheel running off it either by magnetic opposition, or perhaps via  a gear/pulley system.

Anyway, just throwing out some ideas to add to the mix.
Good luck.
Bob

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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 05:15:38 PM »
Not only are we getting no cogging, the flat end of bar surface between the two open bars that faces the on coming magnet is acually pulling the closed bar set toward the magnet.
Butch
By pulling the closed bar set this way, also means that the closed bar set pulls the open bar set away (opposite way) from the magnet. These forces are equal, and cannot be taken into account when calculation any possible excess energy. The open bar set will also be pulled more towards the magnet than the closed ones - which probably means the track will not continue. Equilibrium is some where close to the open bar set and will rest there.

Good luck with further experiments.

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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 06:02:06 AM »
So there is a force on the two bars that makes them repel when they are between the magnets. If the bars are in a V shape, will the repelling force pull/push the V through the magnets?

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 06:03:18 AM »
We are going main stream with our group's work and like any main stream business or research group we will only be dealing with people that can give use a full name, address and contact phone number. Thanks to all that have helped us over the years and check Youtube for updates on our progress. I will not be checking in here any more
after this post. I have asked Stefan to delete my profile, but he has not at this time.
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Re: Is this proof of overunity??? See video and drawing
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 11:34:12 AM »
Does this mean that you give up discussing this with us?

Send me an e-mail anytime. I will provide my full name and address, and I will be glad to help you out on the technical/theoretical side.

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