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Author Topic: Butch may have found something interesting.  (Read 5573 times)

Offline Low-Q

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Butch may have found something interesting.
« on: March 13, 2011, 10:34:02 PM »
Hi all,

I know you guys have seen Butch' attempts on pseudo solid concepts when it comes to the posibility to harness energy from magnets - more than once.
Well, I have been welcomed in the group, and have also brought some ideas into his group.

However, this particular idea who Butch has came up with are quite unique - from my point of wiew. I have questioned the friction, and what counter force can possibly hide behind the friction. But anyways, here I post a link to Butch' youtube channel - a video of a "magnetic switch", which seems to require little energy to turn on and off, and still have the potential to do excess work:
http://www.youtube.com/user/LaFonteResearchGroup#p/a/u/1/Hk4dfUklokU

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Re: Butch may have found something interesting.
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2011, 01:29:52 AM »
Nice video, BUT I see 2 things wrong.

1.  He says 90 degrees in the video, BUT he is really rotating it 180 degrees.

2.  Two bar magnets will display the same attraction & repulsion effects when rotated 180 degrees against each other.  So nothing new here.

Sorry.

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Re: Butch may have found something interesting.
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2011, 09:19:22 AM »
Nice video, BUT I see 2 things wrong.

1.  He says 90 degrees in the video, BUT he is really rotating it 180 degrees.

2.  Two bar magnets will display the same attraction & repulsion effects when rotated 180 degrees against each other.  So nothing new here.

Sorry.

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Ah the bird that will never be able to fly, perhaps if you ate a little less you could see the stars above the clouds.

These ideas are always interesting and they always have the same core principle, that is a primary motion accompanied by a secondary motion. It's only sad to see that it's not picking much interest compared to other concepts.

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Re: Butch may have found something interesting.
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2011, 09:19:22 AM »
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Re: Butch may have found something interesting.
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2011, 10:38:48 AM »
Nice video, BUT I see 2 things wrong.

1.  He says 90 degrees in the video, BUT he is really rotating it 180 degrees.

2.  Two bar magnets will display the same attraction & repulsion effects when rotated 180 degrees against each other.  So nothing new here.

Sorry.

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I will have myself a couple of big washers to test this. I have a feeling that the concept are too easy to be true, but to be shure, I myst test this myself - with minimal of friction to better have an understanding of the relationship between the energy I put in to twist 180 degrees and the energy I get back due to attraction in the final step of the loop.

I do however have a feeling that a pseudo solid concept would be a good approach - with the knowledge I have today. That said, I do not think the washer test made by Butch or his friend is any form of a pseuso like approach. Because in the video, we see that the moving assambly wants to twist back into attraction mode when they are separeted. This "will" to twist must be greater when the assamply are closed, and therfor represent a great counterforce when friction isn't an issue. Initially the friction are too great to distinguish between counterforce and friction. I asked Butch to test the same setup, but with minimum of friction. I haven't got any conclusion of this low-friction test yet.

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Re: Butch may have found something interesting.
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 12:47:57 PM »
I will have myself a couple of big washers to test this. I have a feeling that the concept are too easy to be true, but to be shure, I myst test this myself - with minimal of friction to better have an understanding of the relationship between the energy I put in to twist 180 degrees and the energy I get back due to attraction in the final step of the loop.

I do however have a feeling that a pseudo solid concept would be a good approach - with the knowledge I have today. That said, I do not think the washer test made by Butch or his friend is any form of a pseuso like approach. Because in the video, we see that the moving assambly wants to twist back into attraction mode when they are separeted. This "will" to twist must be greater when the assamply are closed, and therfor represent a great counterforce when friction isn't an issue. Initially the friction are too great to distinguish between counterforce and friction. I asked Butch to test the same setup, but with minimum of friction. I haven't got any conclusion of this low-friction test yet.

Vidar

You could just use a lubricant like an oil or even Teflon wax which has a low coefficient of friction. I'm also eager to see this design in a continuous setup.

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Re: Butch may have found something interesting.
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 12:47:57 PM »
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