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Pirate88179

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1170 on: May 08, 2011, 12:53:53 PM »
Rose:

I find it fascinating that Romero's generator is OU and closed loop self-running even though it was deemed only 80% efficient here on this topic.  This must be a miracle of some kind.  It makes me wonder what the COP might be if it were deemed 90% efficient?

I alerted Stefan to this fellow's work after you brought it to my attention in your topic here.  So, thank you.  This really looks to be something special and now, i expect the experts to try to calculate why it "can't" work.  But yet, it appears to do just that.

Thank you for this Rose and also for all of your hard work, patience and contributions to this fascinating field that we all love, even though we sometimes fight amongst ourselves, we are all here for the same thing.

Bill

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1171 on: May 08, 2011, 02:43:11 PM »
Rose:

I find it fascinating that Romero's generator is OU and closed loop self-running even though it was deemed only 80% efficient here on this topic.  This must be a miracle of some kind.  It makes me wonder what the COP might be if it were deemed 90% efficient?

Bill

"Efficiency" and "COP" are not the same thing Bill, and I would have expected you to know this.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1172 on: May 08, 2011, 02:49:13 PM »
"Efficiency" and "COP" are not the same thing Bill, and I would have expected you to know this.

Oh Poynty.  Co-efficient of performance is the measure of efficiency as it relates to 1.  COP relates to the measure of efficiency in the delivery of power.  They are, indeed, the same thing.

And Pirate, thanks for that.  Always appreciated.

Kindest regards to you both,
Rosemary

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1173 on: May 08, 2011, 04:07:43 PM »
Oh Poynty.  Co-efficient of performance is the measure of efficiency as it relates to 1.  COP relates to the measure of efficiency in the delivery of power.  They are, indeed, the same thing.

And Pirate, thanks for that.  Always appreciated.

Kindest regards to you both,
Rosemary

Oh Rosie-posie, you really should please familiarize yourself with the facts.

Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1174 on: May 08, 2011, 04:32:40 PM »
Oh Rosie-posie, you really should please familiarize yourself with the facts.

lol.  Poynty Pointy - Pay attention now.  COP stands for CO EFFICIENT OF PERFORMANCE .  The EFFICIENT part of that relates to the measured 'EFFICIENCY' of power as it relates to the transfer of energy.  It is usually compared to '1'.

Now.  You are welcome to bore us all to tears by referencing any amount of links that may have various and more LEARNED ways of describing all this.  But we only need to understand the term.  And I think we do.  Certainly I do.  lol.

As ever,
Rosie Posie

 ;D

And btw Poynty.  I see your endless requirements for solid state configs.  Just take a good look at Groundloops circuit here.  I've got a sneaking suspicion we've already got the solid state version.  Just not sure I should reference it.


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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1175 on: May 08, 2011, 04:43:34 PM »
lol.  Poynty Pointy - Pay attention now.  COP stands for CO EFFICIENT OF PERFORMANCE .  The EFFICIENT part of that relates to the measured 'EFFICIENCY' of power as it relates to the transfer of energy.  It is usually compared to '1'.

Now.  You are welcome to bore us all to tears by referencing any amount of links that may have various and more LEARNED ways of describing all this.  But we only need to understand the term.  And I think we do.  Certainly I do.  lol.

As ever,
Rosie Posie

 ;D

You 'caunt' be serious Rose?

Do you know what a "coefficient" is?

http://www.mathwizz.com/algebra/help/help4.htm

It has absolutely nothing to do with the concept of "efficiency". Obviously you either didn't read the documents, or you didn't understand them, as obviously you still don't get it.

 ::) Good grief!

.99

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1176 on: May 08, 2011, 05:08:05 PM »
And btw Poynty.  I see your endless requirements for solid state configs.  Just take a good look at Groundloops circuit here.  I've got a sneaking suspicion we've already got the solid state version.  Just not sure I should reference it.
And btw Rosie-posie, I see your endless attempts to ride the coat tails of others.

Your oscillator is in no way related to Romero's device, and therefore not a solid-state version of it.

.99

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1177 on: May 08, 2011, 05:29:55 PM »
You 'caunt' be serious Rose?

Do you know what a "coefficient" is?

http://www.mathwizz.com/algebra/help/help4.htm

It has absolutely nothing to do with the concept of "efficiency". Obviously you either didn't read the documents, or you didn't understand them, as obviously you still don't get it.

 ::) Good grief!

.99

 ;D  lol.  I'll manage somehow.  And sit tight there Poynty.  We've got some waveforms to download.  You need to see this.


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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1178 on: May 08, 2011, 05:59:06 PM »
And btw Rosie-posie, I see your endless attempts to ride the coat tails of others.

Your oscillator is in no way related to Romero's device, and therefore not a solid-state version of it.

.99

lol. Indeed I am Poynty.  I'm hanging on there.  Much required. 

 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1179 on: May 08, 2011, 06:10:40 PM »
You 'caunt' be serious Rose?

Do you know what a "coefficient" is?

http://www.mathwizz.com/algebra/help/help4.htm

It has absolutely nothing to do with the concept of "efficiency". Obviously you either didn't read the documents, or you didn't understand them, as obviously you still don't get it.

 ::) Good grief!

.99

  There old poynted boy goes cherry picking definitions and claiming  his superiority. English is a though language one word can have many definitions, um lets see, wikipedia might look at coefficient a little more comprehensively.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient

  Examples of physical coefficients
1.Coefficient of Thermal Expansion (thermodynamics) (dimensionless) - Relates the change in temperature to the change in a material's dimensions.
2.Partition Coefficient (KD) (chemistry) - The ratio of concentrations of a compound in two phases of a mixture of two immiscible solvents at equilibrium.
3.Hall coefficient (electrical physics) - Relates a magnetic field applied to an element to the voltage created, the amount of current and the element thickness. It is a characteristic of the material from which the conductor is made.
4.Lift coefficient (CL or CZ) (Aerodynamics) (dimensionless) - Relates the lift generated by an airfoil with the dynamic pressure of the fluid flow around the airfoil, and the planform area of the airfoil.
5.Ballistic coefficient (BC) (Aerodynamics) (units of kg/m2) - A measure of a body's ability to overcome air resistance in flight. BC is a function of mass, diameter, and drag coefficient.
6.Transmission Coefficient (quantum mechanics) (dimensionless) - Represents the probability flux of a transmitted wave relative to that of an incident wave. It is often used to describe the probability of a particle tunnelling through a barrier.
7.Damping Factor a.k.a. viscous damping coefficient (Physical Engineering) (units of newton-seconds per meter) - relates a damping force with the velocity of the object whose motion is being

  Good Geief indeed!
  Pete
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  Had to clean up my c&p
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1180 on: May 08, 2011, 07:46:46 PM »
That's so odd that someone would post something "FALSE" and "INACCURATE" that has nothing to do with this thread at all concerning the term "coefficient" other that to confuse members and guests being off topic and try to derail the thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient

Quote
Examples of physical coefficients
   1. Coefficient of Thermal Expansion (thermodynamics) (dimensionless) - Relates the change in temperature to the change in a material's dimensions.
   2. Partition Coefficient (KD) (chemistry) - The ratio of concentrations of a compound in two phases of a mixture of two immiscible solvents at equilibrium.
   3. Hall coefficient (electrical physics) - Relates a magnetic field applied to an element to the voltage created, the amount of current and the element thickness. It is a characteristic of the material from which the conductor is made.
   4. Lift coefficient (CL or CZ) (Aerodynamics) (dimensionless) - Relates the lift generated by an airfoil with the dynamic pressure of the fluid flow around the airfoil, and the planform area of the airfoil.
   5. Ballistic coefficient (BC) (Aerodynamics) (units of kg/m2) - A measure of a body's ability to overcome air resistance in flight. BC is a function of mass, diameter, and drag coefficient.
   6. Transmission Coefficient (quantum mechanics) (dimensionless) - Represents the probability flux of a transmitted wave relative to that of an incident wave. It is often used to describe the probability of a particle tunnelling through a barrier.
   7. Damping Factor a.k.a. viscous damping coefficient (Physical Engineering) (units of newton-seconds per meter) - relates a damping force with the velocity of the object whose motion is being

Again I find no useful information concerning this at all and has no bearing what so ever here on the results on calculations of the claimed COP > INFINITY other than a diversion of facts.

Fuzzy


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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1181 on: May 08, 2011, 08:05:47 PM »
That's so odd that someone would post something "FALSE" and "INACCURATE" that has nothing to do with this thread at all concerning the term "coefficient" other that to confuse members and guests being off topic and try to derail the thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient

Again I find no useful information concerning this at all and has no bearing what so ever here on the results on calculations of the claimed COP > INFINITY other than a diversion of facts.

Fuzzy



   Out of context but a much better job at copy & past than mine.
   Thanks

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1182 on: May 08, 2011, 08:15:41 PM »
That's so odd that someone would post something "FALSE" and "INACCURATE" that has nothing to do with this thread at all concerning the term "coefficient" other that to confuse members and guests being off topic and try to derail the thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient

Again I find no useful information concerning this at all and has no bearing what so ever here on the results on calculations of the claimed COP > INFINITY other than a diversion of facts.

Fuzzy
still here with your vendetta fuzzy? don't you know there's a new claim (pilgrim) in town son?? why don't you run on over there like the rest of the merry gang did. you guys remind me of jack palance in the movie shane...

the merry gang: "did you say overunity or cop > 1? pick up the gun, pilgrim..."

one of the unwashed masses: "mister i'm just here trying to do something for the planet..."

the merry gang: "pick up the gun!"



grow up son, and please pass that bit of advice on to the rest of your obsessed gang... ::)

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1183 on: May 08, 2011, 08:31:01 PM »
Come on Fuzzytomcat it's great over their, the inventor of the device answers all the questions, and you don't need to worry about measurements it is a self-runner  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1184 on: May 08, 2011, 09:14:55 PM »
still here with your vendetta fuzzy? don't you know there's a new claim (pilgrim) in town son?? why don't you run on over there like the rest of the merry gang did. you guys remind me of jack palance in the movie shane...

the merry gang: "did you say overunity or cop > 1? pick up the gun, pilgrim..."

one of the unwashed masses: "mister i'm just here trying to do something for the planet..."

the merry gang: "pick up the gun!"



grow up son, and please pass that bit of advice on to the rest of your obsessed gang... ::)

It's good to know that you are in 100% agreement with what documented testing and evaluation of Rosemary's claims of COP > INFINITY you are the first on record to be in agreement with her findings.

I personally have not found yet a complete package here or anywhere of this device, a circuit diagram, parts list, settings of the oscilloscope plus continued data dumps over a specific time frame and the function generator including what the DC offset setting adjustment was set at .... to make a verified scientific replication.

Exactly what have you found in your testing and evaluation of this device on what ever construction data your working from for a verified scientific replication?

This to me appears a "FALSE" and "INACCURATE" claim of COP > INFINITY with nothing at all verifiable to back up the claim or claims from the inventor.

Fuzzy