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Author Topic: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011  (Read 612348 times)

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1140 on: May 05, 2011, 06:27:57 PM »
like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of OUR lives...  ;)

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1141 on: May 05, 2011, 08:38:54 PM »
Guys - more good news.  A friend of mine has done a full on replication.  I've downloaded waveforms.  I'll post it later.  All negative values.  Two fets attached to a common heatsink running a standard 9 Ohm 12 volt automotive soldering iron.  It was cooking - but we didn't have the means to measure the heat.  Actually we did.  Just forgot to do this.  Too hot to handle - in any event.  Probably in the region of 80 degrees or more. 

Anyway he did a short video on this.  I'll upload it when I get my computer back.  And I'll upload the screen shots tomorrow morning.  Very simple config. I think it's going to be very easy for you guys to replicate this.  Crocodile clips - crude connections - but everything working.  And everything permanently in NEGATIVE - as with our own tests.  You should also be able to see the required waveform on your standard oscilloscopes. 

Anyway.  That's the first FULL ON replication. 

Kindest regards,
Rosie

Sorry I should have added.  He used our functions generator to drive the switch.  But he's getting his own.  But it's JUST SO EASY everyone.  Simple and easy.  He wired the required 'legs' together and then applied the signal from the generator to both those gates.  IT WORKS FINE.  And the oscillations are PERFECT.  Again, interestingly, better results at higher frequencies.  He was running it at 800 Hz.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2011, 09:15:52 PM by Rosemary Ainslie »

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1142 on: May 06, 2011, 05:13:16 AM »
Abject apologies guys.  It seems I didn't get that download onto my flashdrive.  Am mortified.  I'll see if we can redo his test this evening or at the weekend.  I've asked him to become a member here - which will be WONDERFUL.  Then he can do his posts directly.  He has many ideas to take this to application phase.

But I'll get those waveforms to you as soon as I have them. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

added : BTW - I'll take the trouble then to measure the temperature.  I've got a little 'testo' probe that I use for ambient temperature which I forgot about.  Not keen on dismantling the temperature probe on my artefact - because it's been fixed there to keep a reference for our controls.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1143 on: May 06, 2011, 05:56:48 AM »
Just as a general discussion related to the energy in that circuit vs battery 'mass' that I've been referring to - here's something of interest.

The first 'load' on that replication test was a simple light bulb.  Can't quite remember the required voltage but I think it was 24v or thereby.  In any event - this did not result in those 'negative' cycle mean or mean average voltages.  Interestingly the math trace did stay negative which is a discussion all on its own.  But the light filament itself is very small.  And it was barely alight.  Flashed at low frequencies - steady at high frequencies as expected.  But very little evident light output at either switching speeds. 

Then when we applied the soldering iron as the load - there was an immediate reversal of the numbers that the cycle mean and the mean average AND the math trace just moved into and stayed at NEGATIVE.  Not only that but the level of heat dissipated on the iron was extreme.  And it could be adjusted in either direction.  Resistance of that iron was 9 Ohms.  In effect the amount of wattage dissipated appeared to be greater over the load that also had the greater mass.

I wonder if there is a ratio to applied voltage and the actual material mass of the load.  I suspect so.  It seems that the greater the mass the greater the energy available.  Not so much related inductance - but actual mass.  Then maybe there's more energy available to 'return' during the 'off' period of the duty cycle.  Just a thought.

Again, kindest regards
Rosie

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1144 on: May 06, 2011, 07:45:23 AM »
Guys.  I've just thought of an easier way to describe this eccentric MOSFET positioning.  It's not back to front - not upside down - it's HAND TO HAND.  lol.  In effect what was done in the replication was this.  Two mosfets put side by side and attached to the surface of a shared heat sink.  Q1 on the left -  Q2 on the right.  Legs facing the same same direction.  Then using approximately 6" of copper wiring (about 0.25 gauge) x 3.  The first wire soldered to the gate of Q1 (far left leg) then connected and soldered to the source of Q2 (far right leg).  The second wire solder to the drain of Q1 (middle leg) to the drain of Q2 (middle leg).  The third wire soldered to the source of Q1 (its right leg) and then to the gate of Q2 (its left leg).  Sort of holding hands.  And if I had my PC I'd have given you either a sketch or a photograph.  But it's been taken away for forensic analysis!  lol.

If you can visualise that - or even sketch it - then that's the required positioning and linkage between those legs.  THEN.  Put the lead from the signal generator Positive to the GATE of Q1 and Ground to the GATE of Q2.  THEN , nota bene guys or Poynty et al will SCREAM DENIALS - put your shunt resistor in series BEHIND that FG's ground and directly in series with the negative rail of the battery supply.

Then.  Adjust your duty cycle that it's OFF for a longer period than it's ON - and then SIT BACK and enjoy the show.  You'll see everything just oscillating and oscillating.  Finer adjustments still required - but that's a good 'kick off'.  Thereafter you adjust your 'offset' to get the optimised power values.  That may take some time to assess.  But if you get to this point then perhaps I can help you out here.

I confidently predict that this is going to be MUCH, MUCH easier to put together than the 'single' spike number that we showed earlier and it'll be easier to prove those gains.  And I absolutely do not think you need to get married to that IRFPG50.  Use anything that has a zener body diode.  On that replication we had a maximum peak to peak voltage from the supply at 3 times the average supply voltage.  And on the 24 volts applied that gave us a peak to peak of about 72 volts.  That's well within the tolerance of most of those NFETs.

The only downside, perhaps, is that I can't give you an alternative to the functions generator.  Not yet anyway.  The one that we tried gave us a rather messy waveform and dubious returns.  But I know that with the talents available here - then one if not more of you - will find some solutions.

Hope that helps.
Kindest regards,
Rosie

added.  And if I may quote what my friend kept saying.  'It's so easy.  I can't believe it.  There it is.  It's so EASY'.  lol
« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 09:23:49 AM by Rosemary Ainslie »

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1145 on: May 06, 2011, 10:39:16 AM »
Rosemary,

You can also put the transistors like this onto a heat sink.

GL.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1146 on: May 06, 2011, 01:13:38 PM »
Rosemary,

You can also put the transistors like this onto a heat sink.

GL.

That's bang on Groundloop.  Excellent.  My friend had them separated by about 4 inches.  But it's the same thing. 

Many thanks.  A picture's always worth a thousand words. 

Kindest regards,
Rosie
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Added. 

And just to let you know.  We'll do a repeat of that replication on Sunday afternoon.  Solemn promise, thereafter I'll post those screen shots.  Don't know why I didn't manage it yesterday.  Could be that the flashdrive is full.  But I've got another.  Sorry about that.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1147 on: May 06, 2011, 01:18:07 PM »
@Groundloop . I could be wrong here , but is the body of the mosfet that bolts onto the heatsink internally connected to one of the pins? If it is , then 2 separate heatsinks would be needed .

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1148 on: May 06, 2011, 01:28:58 PM »
@Groundloop . I could be wrong here , but is the body of the mosfet that bolts onto the heatsink internally connected to one of the pins? If it is , then 2 separate heatsinks would be needed .

Hello Neptune.  I might have the answer here.  All that's needed is as Groundloop has shown - that there's insulation between the body of the FET and the sink itself.  We used an insulation paste - but possibly better as Groundloop's shown it.

regards,
Rosemary

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1149 on: May 06, 2011, 04:00:17 PM »
@Groundloop . I could be wrong here , but is the body of the mosfet that bolts onto the heatsink internally connected to one of the pins? If it is , then 2 separate heatsinks would be needed .

@neptune,

The "white" stuff under both transistors is conducting heat but not electricity.
So the metal under the transistor is not in direct contact with the heat sink.

Regards,
GL.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1150 on: May 06, 2011, 05:12:51 PM »
The metal backing and tabs of these devices are usually connected to the Drain (or Collector in the case of BJT's), so it isn't normally a problem if they are connected through the heat sink when they are already connected in the circuit, provided the entire Drain-loop is not too large.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1151 on: May 06, 2011, 08:09:16 PM »
GUYS - I've been alerted to the following.  Here's the VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDW_OfkIaIU

Here's the LINK
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.60

This has GOT to be the MOST SIGNIFICANT THING THAT HAS COME OUT OF THIS FORUM EVER.  Most definitely a self - runner.  I'm going back there to read the entire thread. Needless to say I also came across this little analysis by?  10 Brownie points, as MileHigh says - if you've guessed Poynty.  DOES HE GET IN JUST EVERYWHERE?  PLEASE.  JUST GO THERE AND READ ALL ABOUT IT.  IT ABSOLUTELY OUTPERFORMS OUR OWN LITTLE DEVICE.   


Looping or using a scope to measure the output power will tell the true story.

The input power (~ 11.3W) is going to be fairly accurate because of the DC source. However Gyula, you should be aware that multiplying an average current by an average voltage of an output produced by induced currents in a coil, is not going to have a power factor of 1, and therefore the simple product of 24W will not be accurate.

Judging by the intensity of the bulb and assuming the efficiency to be 80%, the true output power is likely closer to 8W or 9W.

Nice job on the build R. :

What a joke.  The only significant fact is that it's a SELF RUNNER.  And you can't get that with an 80% efficiency. 

Anyway - for some reason that thread topic by Romerouk (hope I've spelt it right) is not being noticed.  It's REALLY wonderful.  Go there and take a REALLY GOOD look.  Golly.  All this good news!  ;D  But our poor Thermodynamic Laws must be rather feeling the need for some air.  LOL

HOW WONDERFUL IS ALL THIS? 

 ;D ;D

Kindest regards,
Rosie

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1152 on: May 06, 2011, 08:51:36 PM »
Well.  I've read it through - cover to cover.  WHAT WONDERFUL NEWS.  I never even knew about the Muller device.  And I've never actually put my mind to motors - because I just assumed that it wouldn't work.  I'm now wondering even about poor Mylow. Did his motor perhaps work after all?  To his credit - I see that Poynty has actually today - posted news of ths on his forum.  Perhaps he'll give it some 'daylight'.  lol.  I don't think his best skills could silence this evidence.  JUST REALLY GOOD NEWS EVERYONE.  I've now got to see if this has got to EF.com.  May have some competition there.

I'm a little bit concerned that it'll probably make our evidence somewhat obsolete - almost IMMEDIATELY.  But that's a good thing too.  Every bit helps if it systematically errodes the idea that electric energy is eventually going to cost anything at all.  And WHAT will it do to our utility suppliers?  And our oil producers?  And as Romerouk has open sourced everything - then, there again, it's not likely to be stoppable.  Wow.  Friday 06th MAY, 2011.  It's a BIG day in my life.

Kindest again,
Rosie

 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1153 on: May 06, 2011, 09:40:34 PM »
Well.  I've read it through - cover to cover.  WHAT WONDERFUL NEWS. 
Kindest again,
Rosie

 ;D ;D ;D

Rosie, I am glad you took that the right way! I have built Muller gens before but never with the degree of success that Romero has had here. Indeed it is great news and doesn't eclipse your wonderful device, but rather compliments it. Just imagine a romero device powering an RMA device to heat ones house!!!

On the brightside, "you know who" will be torn between which device to attack now and so this will take the pressure off of you, lol

Keep up the good work

Ron


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Re: Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011
« Reply #1154 on: May 06, 2011, 10:09:05 PM »
Rosie, I am glad you took that the right way! I have built Muller gens before but never with the degree of success that Romero has had here. Indeed it is great news and doesn't eclipse your wonderful device, but rather compliments it. Just imagine a romero device powering an RMA device to heat ones house!!!

On the brightside, "you know who" will be torn between which device to attack now and so this will take the pressure off of you, lol

Keep up the good work

Ron

I'm not sure that you're right Ron.  Surely Romero's is a generator?  Potentially?  That's all that's needed - I'd have thought.  And certainly a rotor's going to have better uses for our cars.  I'd FAR sooner this get promoted than our own - if it gets to the application that much sooner.  Because that's really all that matters.  And I feel 'free' now to concentrate on my own evidence.  The point is that all that returning energy on the negative cycle speaks to my thesis - both in the excess of energy and in the heat that's dissipated at the load.  And that's actually where my interest lies.  But it's small change compared to this motor - in terms of its application.

And guys - Ron, everyone, this Romero number is WONDERFUL.  I see it putting paid to monopolies and carbon pollution -  in a few easy steps.  Surely?  And that's where the real 'stranglehold' has been.  It's a light in the tunnel.  A HOPE.  And God knows we need it.  It would be so nice to think that we humans who, apparently, have been given authority over everything earthly - actually start exercising a little bit of responsibility along with all that control.  Long overdue.

It's really good news.  If I had company with me at the moment I'd have opened a bottle of wine.  As it is I'm toasting all this with a cup of coffee and a rare and special sense of relief.  I suspect we'll be owing Romerouk BIG TIME. 

As ever Ron, take care.
Kindest regards
Rosie 

 

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