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Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler  (Read 1188522 times)

Offline Inquorate

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2985 on: April 04, 2020, 01:53:11 AM »
   Inquorate:   Thanks for the video and presentation.   Can you provide any proof that the Docs circuits, such as the "secret" diode loop circuit, are able to produce OU, or self running?   We can say that any "extra energy" may be coming from the "ambient". But, what extra energy?  Can any of this supposed extra energy be shown, and proven, by input to output measurements? As I have not seen this to be the case, as yet. After several months work on these circuits.   If no extra energy can be shown, up to now. What is the point?


Here are a few documents to consider. However, I will say here that I tried for years to walk before I could crawl. Unless you have a signal generator with fast fourier transform spectrum analysis, AND a sine wave signal generator capable of 50mhz AT MINIMUM, you won't be able to tune properly.


Also, unless you understand what is happening with one coil, you won't understand what happens with two. And then you need to understand how 2 coild with a capacitor between them works.


Here are some videos to watch;


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBnO2i7wr6vVxUSPGdtFthA-go6FiXAMr


and here are some articles which may help you understand all the effects that can be brought together in resonance;


http://www.i-sis.org.uk/The_Z_theory_of_everything.php
https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicists-discover-exotic-patterns-of-synchronization-20190404/
Universal Quantum Phenomenon Found in Superconductors | Quanta Magazine
LED's efficiency exceeds 100%
Faster-Than-Light Travel Could Explain Mysterious Signals Beaming Through the Cosmos | Live Science
Current mode second breakdown in epitaxial planar transistors - IEEE Journals & Magazine
Negative resistance in p-n junctions under avalanche breakdown conditions, part I - IEEE Journals & Magazine
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-1/ac-phase/


So, There are all the answers.


I recently purchased everything required to make some calorimeters, and aim to replicate the single wire excitation document, starting with testing the calorimeters to determine how big their margin of error is.


Start at the beginning.








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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2986 on: April 04, 2020, 02:43:55 AM »
There's also these. But better to start with one or two coils and go from there

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2987 on: April 04, 2020, 05:20:00 AM »
   Inquorate:   Thanks for the links. However, I am very familiar with the Docs work, and ideas. I followed him, and replicated some of his last tests, but was not able to observe anything particularly useful. As far as input to output is concerned.
His diode bridge or loop "secret" was also replicated by me, but again, I found little actual useful benefit from the "diode loop" tests.As a higher output caused by the switching diodes used, also causes the input current to raise, as well. So, a very efficient circuit, but, no free lunch.
   The question: Is there any real third party proof by real measurements showing OU, or anything to get excited about?   I have followed the Doc to the end, and do have a signal generator, scope, etz... So, no need to start with one or two coils...   I have spent many hours, days, and months working on his circuits, know his theories, and circuits. Therefore, my question to you, are there any working Dr. Stiffer type of replications, that you know of? By that I mean self running, OU, etz...
  Here is one of my videos showing my version of Dr. Stiffler's "diode loop" tests and replications. I was using a crystal oscillator that I built, running at 12.MHz. I tested using the 13.6MHz crystals, as well, which was where the Docs best running frequency sweet spot, was at.
   https://youtu.be/MydqZEBi9TM

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2988 on: April 04, 2020, 05:57:02 AM »
Picking a frequency such as 13.6 mhz (you did well to find a 13.6mhs xtal. I was unable to find any the times I looked.) without knowing why you are picking it, or 12mhz or ten, will get you nowhere. You will not see gain. I have done experiments using avramenko plugs in apurely transverse wave environment. Nothing special hapens. You have to have resonant atomic phonon (longitudinal) vibrations present.

Your system in the video, unless you have tuned the oscillator to the spatial resonant frequency of the coil, you are just making loads of electromagnetic waves. If you turn up the power, you might start to see interesting stuff by pure chance, as you may hit a resonant point somewhere in the circuit.
you do need to look at one or two coils. if you understood what was happening, you would have built the circuit differently, and paid more attention to how you made the coils. For example, please look at this and tell me what you see.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BuObUphgNXg/
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2989 on: April 04, 2020, 06:46:48 AM »
  Well, yes. My two or three coils are tuned to their best running frequency. Which for me was not 13.6MHz, but 12Mhz, instead. I do have and have tried using many different crystal frequencies. And my best response may be slightly different ambient frequency point, than where the Doc was located. But, it was close to the same sweet spot, in any case.    BTW: you can find 13.6MHz crystals (two) in old an wireless Pc mouse. Or order them online.
    What do I see in the images that you posted? Well,  I see that there are no input to output measurements... which is really what we need. Spacial coherence, and it's resonant frequency response, is what I am looking for. I know what I'm looking for.        Have you found what you're looking for?    It easy to say you need this or that to have results, but I don't see anyone showing real measurements, to prove the point. Further more, I don't think that it's even possible to show accurate scope shots. Since connecting a scope negative ground probe to the circuit will KILL the HV, to ground. So...
    I do think that there is something to all this, or I would not have spent the time studying and replicating his circuits.
But, now he's  gone.   We are still here...  So, can you show us something to get excited about? Not just theory. I understand the theory... But, you may not be up to speed on his final "secret" diode loop circuits tests, and how they are supposed to work, and why. As I did not see you participating in that project, which was different in several ways, to his earlier builds and tests.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2990 on: April 04, 2020, 08:27:34 AM »
Well,  I see that there are no input to output measurements... which is really what we need.
Do we? in most cases, yes. A proper measurement of joules in and joules out will invariably show a gain if there is one, or a loss if there is not. But there is one case that I showed you which does not require joules in and joules out measurements.

I know you suspect you are not operating at a gain or you would have attempted a calorimeter test to determine it. Your coils are wound wrongly. Build them to the fraction of a millimeter to Dr Stiffler's specifications and you will see an increase in response. Or do you think he picked the dimensions at random?
You do not understand the theory my friend. His diode loop was just another toy. I have posted a link previous that explains the magic happening there, and it is fairly common knowledge.
My friend, to work out how to build a self running circuit, you will need to do a full one eighty on your thinking processes. To prove gain, more out than in, you will need to build a calorimeter.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2991 on: April 04, 2020, 04:19:50 PM »
   In order for you to make such claims, some proof needs to be shown, not just repeating what you've heard him say.
   I am as familiar as you to his devices, claims, and theories, yet, neither YOU or I have built anything to show that works with a gain. 
   This discussion can go on forever, unless some proof of concept is replicated and shown with all it's secrets. 
   Again, you did not build his diode loop. Did you??? Which was his best and most useful effort on this project. So, don't come on like you KNOW what you're talking about. Show some proof, if you can please, then we can discuss what works, and what doesn't.   As I mentioned, I doubt that connecting a scope up, will have no affect of the operation of the device. So, not so easy to do, to prove things, one way or the other.   I don't need calometric measurements. I need strong lights, that run on flea farts. Not just another "toy", to play with.   
   Shit is already hitting to fan, with the current situation on Earth. So... no time for building toys.    The name of this thread is Self Running cold electricity circuit by Dr. Stiffler.
   So, where is his self running circuit?  One that is not connected to his labs AC ground line. And was taken outside to prove the point, of self running. Can you answer that??? Without mentioning that I don't know how to build his circuits, but that only you do. IF that is so, then are you able show us all how it's done?

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2992 on: April 04, 2020, 10:29:39 PM »
You are wasting my time.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2993 on: April 04, 2020, 10:57:39 PM »
  The question is, are you waisting our time.   
   Or do you actually have something to show.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2994 on: April 13, 2020, 05:53:53 AM »
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« Reply #2995 on: April 13, 2020, 07:04:20 PM »
Was doing some clean up and found one of the first circuit boards Ron was selling to experimenters. Did a lot of tests on it back then and found he and I were doing similar things. We both open sourced it and a newbie at the time called slayer popularized what I called open gate/base self-oscillating circuits. It's really nothing more than a simplified field effect feedback loop which can operate at very high efficiencies.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2996 on: April 13, 2020, 07:50:38 PM »
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Inquorate:   Thanks for the links. However, I am very familiar with the Docs work, and ideas. I followed him, and replicated some of his last tests, but was not able to observe anything particularly useful. As far as input to output is concerned.
His diode bridge or loop "secret" was also replicated by me, but again, I found little actual useful benefit from the "diode loop" tests.As a higher output caused by the switching diodes used, also causes the input current to raise, as well. So, a very efficient circuit, but, no free lunch.
The question: Is there any real third party proof by real measurements showing OU, or anything to get excited about?

The main circuit was simply a high efficiency self-oscillator required to prevent detuning. Inquorate was also correct that the conductor lengths are important as well as there geometry and placement. Unlike most common circuits the effects are almost solely dependent on length, surface area, geometry and proximity.

I remember the diode loop test and in retrospect it wasn't so much to show FE as demonstrate a concept. Not unlike the Avramenko plug it should not be taken literally and looked at conceptually to refine a process. All the basic elements are there in my opinion and the diode loop test was just a test. The question is what do you think Ron was looking for and why?.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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« Reply #2998 on: April 14, 2020, 04:32:27 PM »
Have you found this site yet ?

http://www.tuks.nl/Mirror/Dr_Stiffler/SECDrivers.htm.html
   Dave:  That is just a repetition of what had been shown at that time. The diode bridge was not shown there, which was his most important contribution, before he died. His last "energy through the ground" idea was also not shown nor replicated by anyone, to see IF it worked or not.

  One power: Yes, the coil tuning is of upmost importance, to see anything unusual. But, his circuits were anything but simple, to get working right. Or, has anyone made them self run, or shown any OU after all these years???  Like Inquorate, etz... who says that he knows how and why they work. I asked him to SHOW us, he answers that I waist his time...
   

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« Reply #2999 on: April 14, 2020, 05:20:21 PM »
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One power: Yes, the coil tuning is of upmost importance, to see anything unusual. But, his circuits were anything but simple, to get working right.

I agree, and these ultra sensitive circuits could be affected by any number of things including relative humidity. Some I built could detect a person petting the cat on the other side of the house. The range can be so large it becomes almost impossible to tell what any given change represents. I was using an Ardunio/Labview interface to plot the changes over time, hours sometimes days.

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Or, has anyone made them self run, or shown any OU after all these years???  Like Inquorate, etz... who says that he knows how and why they work. I asked him to SHOW us, he answers that I waist his time...

Of course, everyone knows how FE works... they just can't tell anyone, lol. I don't believe in OU, I believe in FE which relates to external energy transformed within any given device like a crystal radio for example. There is also the small issue of FE inventors having random heart attacks and being hit by cars. Apparently the moment one shows a working device they also become extremely accident prone, lol.

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