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Author Topic: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric  (Read 369328 times)

Offline Slovenia

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40 KHz Transducer Pics
« Reply #585 on: May 02, 2011, 06:16:17 PM »

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Re: 40 KHz Transducer Pics
« Reply #587 on: May 03, 2011, 12:54:16 AM »
Hi Altrez,

Thanks!!  They didn't come with any information on how to use them and/or how to hook them up, so I'm going to have to contact Lissy in China and see if she can find out for me.

Thanks for all your help!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia


Nice!!

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40 KHz Transducer
« Reply #588 on: May 04, 2011, 11:09:18 PM »
I got some more information from China on my transducer.  They sent me some pics of how they utilize them in their ultrasonic cleaners and welders, and they are not supposed to be in the water themselves.  They are attached with epoxy to the floor of the cleaner but on the bottom side of the floor where they are not exposed to water.  So, this is going to be interesting figuring out how to use them in a wet environment.  I'm going to have to build a water proof base for the bottom side of the transducer to keep it dry in the bottom of my cell.

The company had pcbs to drive the transducers too and they can build whatever we want but Lissy said that would cost more since it would be a custom build scenario.  Their shipping is less on one unit but more than the original place I mentioned where the shipping was $62 for 10 or 1 units.  The other place has exactly what we need but I didn't want to pay $62 shipping for one unit and I didn't want to order several units before I had conformation they would work for me.  So, that's where we are.

I asked what instructions the company had to go along with my transducer and they sent me the following four pics:

http://i56.tinypic.com/rk66uf.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/2s6alxj.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/11aj2fb.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/28krqfn.jpg
« Last Edit: May 04, 2011, 11:30:28 PM by Slovenia »

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #589 on: May 05, 2011, 04:35:42 AM »
Solvenia,

Use your fogger first to vaporize the water then have your second transducer catch the vapor and turn it to its elemental hydrogen and oxygen.  This is the two stage idea I was talking about.

Do you think it possible to mix zinc in paint or primer and spread it onto a material (substrate)? 

I am trying to concentrate my efforts on the cdi at this point.  We are getting RF from using resistorless copper wires and ghost firing.  So we are going to try fine wire braid on the plug wires and ground it to the engine block for shielding and try a tvs diode on the trigger. 

Chris

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #590 on: May 05, 2011, 02:01:13 PM »
Hi Chris,

Good to hear from you.  It sounds like you are having a lot of fun.  With regard to the zinc crystals, I do believe that they need to be contained in some sort of envelope as initially suggested by Power To Be.  He did mention that he had utilized a way of adhering them to some surfaces but he was not explicit in how he accomplished it.  I do know that the zinc crystals have to be under water to work most effectively.  I've seen that in Power To Be posts several times.  Initially I thought we were supposed to coat the receiver bowl at the top of the cell and then decided the brass receiver bowl was to direct the signal back down into the water for optimum results.

Thanks for the suggestion about the fogger.

Thanks for sharing with us.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Solvenia,

Use your fogger first to vaporize the water then have your second transducer catch the vapor and turn it to its elemental hydrogen and oxygen.  This is the two stage idea I was talking about.

Do you think it possible to mix zinc in paint or primer and spread it onto a material (substrate)? 

I am trying to concentrate my efforts on the cdi at this point.  We are getting RF from using resistorless copper wires and ghost firing.  So we are going to try fine wire braid on the plug wires and ground it to the engine block for shielding and try a tvs diode on the trigger. 

Chris

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Re: Radiant Energy NOW, 24 hrs a day can be produced at home
« Reply #591 on: May 07, 2011, 03:33:50 PM »
Q: Any progress on this Radiant Energy NOW, 24 hrs a day can be produced at home??
..........
We will start this project ASAP, I do not want to overwhelm you with too much information.

Research has already been done on this, you can easily harvest 500 watts per meter square 24 hours a day. Let's do this people.


Radiant Energy NOW, 24 hrs a day can be produced at home with Lead Sulfide and Lead Oxide nano crystals.

The Power Elite will never make these technologies available to the public but you have the Power to make it happen.

The Sun bombards earth with energy daily, enormous amount of energy. For the so called 1000 watts per meter formula, typical Si photo-voltaic only harvest less that 20% of the visible spectrum, that is less than 10% or 100 watts per meter, that is simply absurd and insanely ridiculous.

Grow your own crystals that will work 24 hours daily, Radiant energy is the infra-red, X ray and Gamma Ray range, and you can tap into this energy source today if you choose to make a Change.
...........

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Re: Radiant Energy NOW, 24 hrs a day can be produced at home
« Reply #592 on: May 08, 2011, 12:10:02 AM »
Power To Be never got around to sharing this aspect with us.  I think he was waiting for all of us to get the water cell  with the zinc crystals and transducers running before he gave us the secrets associated with PbSO2 and how to apply them.  I think our brother Power To Be is gone now, so many of his secrets may remain lost to us unless we can learn how to activate the inner genius in all of us, that he talked about.

Q: Any progress on this Radiant Energy NOW, 24 hrs a day can be produced at home??
..........
We will start this project ASAP, I do not want to overwhelm you with too much information.

Research has already been done on this, you can easily harvest 500 watts per meter square 24 hours a day. Let's do this people.


Radiant Energy NOW, 24 hrs a day can be produced at home with Lead Sulfide and Lead Oxide nano crystals.

The Power Elite will never make these technologies available to the public but you have the Power to make it happen.

The Sun bombards earth with energy daily, enormous amount of energy. For the so called 1000 watts per meter formula, typical Si photo-voltaic only harvest less that 20% of the visible spectrum, that is less than 10% or 100 watts per meter, that is simply absurd and insanely ridiculous.

Grow your own crystals that will work 24 hours daily, Radiant energy is the infra-red, X ray and Gamma Ray range, and you can tap into this energy source today if you choose to make a Change.
...........
« Last Edit: May 08, 2011, 04:04:29 AM by Slovenia »

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Transducer & Water Contact
« Reply #593 on: May 12, 2011, 12:41:35 PM »
I got back in contact with the company that manufactured my 40 KHz transducer.  I specifically asked them about the transducer in regards to it's contact with water and they told me that under no circumstances was any part of their transducer to come into contact with water.  They said the transducer needed to be mounted to a stainless steel panel at the base of the water cell on the outside of the water.

For full effect of the transducer, I was really wanting to place the ceramic piezo directly into contact with the water at the bottom of my cell.

This is evidently why Power To Be designed his own horn housing for his ceramic piezos and mounted them a certain way.  It's just another hurdle to cross but we can do it.

Manufacturing Companies Recommended Mounting Method: 
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Project Update
« Reply #594 on: May 16, 2011, 04:33:36 AM »
I had a serious setback.  My oscilloscope shot craps on me and I can't afford to have it serviced at this time.  The fuse did not blow and the on light still lights up when the machine is turned on.  Also, you can hear a slight hum of the transformer inside the unit.  There is no longer the presence of a trace on the CRT screen.  You can see lights inside the screen if you fully illuminate the trace switch, but the CRT screen no longer operates.  So, I don't know what went south with my machine and am still trying to ascertain that.  I've been reviewing a lot of oscilloscope troubleshooting manuals but so far to no avail.  Anyway, I wanted to let you know I was still alive and still interested in this project.

Power To Be left so many interesting tangents to look into that I've been having a hard time just focusing on the project at hand.  I want it all and he opened my eyes to many things but the research takes a lot of time and I still haven't figured out how to tap the higher self to the degree I'd like to.  My knowledge is gaining in that area but I'm still not there yet.   

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Re: Project Update
« Reply #595 on: May 16, 2011, 06:00:00 AM »
I had a serious setback.  My oscilloscope shot craps on me and I can't afford to have it serviced at this time.  The fuse did not blow and the on light still lights up when the machine is turned on.  Also, you can hear a slight hum of the transformer inside the unit.  There is no longer the presence of a trace on the CRT screen.  You can see lights inside the screen if you fully illuminate the trace switch, but the CRT screen no longer operates.  So, I don't know what went south with my machine and am still trying to ascertain that.  I've been reviewing a lot of oscilloscope troubleshooting manuals but so far to no avail.  Anyway, I wanted to let you know I was still alive and still interested in this project.

Power To Be left so many interesting tangents to look into that I've been having a hard time just focusing on the project at hand.  I want it all and he opened my eyes to many things but the research takes a lot of time and I still haven't figured out how to tap the higher self to the degree I'd like to.  My knowledge is gaining in that area but I'm still not there yet.



David, What a bummer but if I were in your shoes, I think I'd crack it open and look for a bad solder joint at the HV supply. Couldn't hurt :'(

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Re: Project Update
« Reply #596 on: May 16, 2011, 01:31:05 PM »

Textron,

Thanks for the help.   It's a very nice scope and I really don't want to get rid of it so I'll have a look at it.

Best Regards,
Slovenia



David, What a bummer but if I were in your shoes, I think I'd crack it open and look for a bad solder joint at the HV supply. Couldn't hurt :'(

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Re: Scope Update
« Reply #597 on: May 16, 2011, 07:41:05 PM »
Hi Textron,

After taking my scope apart and checking the transformer, my scope is now giving me a split second trace on screen when I flip the time/div switch.  The trace is there for a split second and then gone.  Do you have any idea what this means?  Thanks for your help.

The trace is all over the place too, not just in the same place every time I switch the time/div switch around.  Thanks.

Best Regards,
Slovenia



David, What a bummer but if I were in your shoes, I think I'd crack it open and look for a bad solder joint at the HV supply. Couldn't hurt :'(

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #598 on: May 17, 2011, 12:39:04 AM »
No I don't sorry :'(

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #599 on: May 17, 2011, 02:49:09 AM »
Thanks anyway Textron!!

No I don't sorry :'(