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Author Topic: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric  (Read 280597 times)

Offline RAD-HHO

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2011, 11:20:32 PM »
I finally got my ammonium hydroxide and did try to grow some crystals. I think I succeeded. Photo1 is after freezer and before heating to 60 deg C for 2 hrs. Photo3 is after heating to 60 deg C for 2 hrs. and cooling to room temp. If you look close at the pics, you can see that there is more in Photo3.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2011, 11:42:13 PM by RAD-HHO »

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2011, 06:21:32 PM »
Are these dry crystals fragle?


The paint like paste does dry sticking to the container. Is there a preferred method to un-stick them?  Do we just scarp the dryed paste off the sides? does it mater?

Offline The Power To Be

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2011, 09:44:21 PM »
Are these dry crystals fragle?


The paint like paste does dry sticking to the container. Is there a preferred method to un-stick them?  Do we just scarp the dryed paste off the sides? does it mater?
You are the creator, what do you think is best?.

Good job RAD, now proceed to testing. Do not discard ammonium, save for next batch. Then fuse the same crystals with magnesium to achieve higher permittity. Methods already discussed.

For those of you that still do not understand the Power of Natural Intelligence, the whole mainstream knowledge of electricity was observed by Henry Cavendish and later theorized by James Maxwell. Tesla made major improvements.

While most of you are fascinated by Ismael's radiant car, You too have the power to achieve the same result if you choose to take control of your own reality. Ismael was self taught, but he seems to have fallen for the same bait of Greed. 

We are surrounded by energy, I have already discussed practical methods to harvesting energy directly from the enviroments, this knowledge is not new nor exotic, Photovoltaic effect of Lead Sulfide was first disclosed in 1904, and for the multi-aliases manipulators that don't have a clue of reality, check your facts, there is more properties of Silicon that you can not comprehend with your current state of false mentality.

Listen to your own intelligence, I will aid you only when necessary, you are very capable on you're own.

For those same party that are trying to takje this project private, It simply will not work, everyone is a Tesla, let's grow your intelligence so that Man will be Free.

There are already Artificial-Intelligence System bots that will penetrate and manipulate these discussions,  I suggest that you the People move, propergate and multiply these discussions to mainstream portals such as Facebook, Youtube etc. I will hep you there and so will many other honest decent human beings.

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2011, 09:44:21 PM »
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Offline The Power To Be

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2011, 11:24:54 PM »
Slovenia,
If you sincerely wish to pusue this project, then please utilize your energy and spread this project to other mainstream fields, create new posts in Chemistry, Ceramic, Metallurgy, HHO borards etc, there are many many ways to do this Piezoelectric HHO  production, you are only limited by your own imagination.

For those from other countries, start your own thread locally, while we are tinkering with 100 years old technology, others countries continue to accelerate far ahead, you can get help everywhere on basic questions that you may encounter. You own intelligence will easily solve your problem, China has more higher education graduates than the whole population of California and the West Coast combined!, and they will eagerly help you if you are sincere, honest and understand that We are all Equal.

You are the Teacher, You are the Creator, please take control of your own Reality, many more great things will follow. :)

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2011, 01:06:02 AM »
You are the creator, what do you think is best?.
I am not the creator. I am a guy trying to find out if there is any truth in what you originally claimed. If i deviate from your method too much i will not achieve that goal.

I'm not saying i wont be creative at some point, im just trying to understand and prove to myself that your idea actually works as you describe first. 


I made my decision to try these experiment based on you and your many the posts in many threads. Usually i understand the projects i start before i spend money, this project was an exception, so yes i could use help.

Some of the things you say lately are very bazaar to me. I've concluded that you ether genius with good intentions, or a escapee from a crazy house. More than like a little of both. I realize you not that interested in helping much more, but i will continue to ask questions in hope that if not you someone may have a good suggestion. I will also offer ideas where i can. I for one, do believe we all can learn from each other.   I'm just not one with nature yet :)
 




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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
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Offline petar113507

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2011, 03:19:28 AM »
Allright -- things are starting to come in, and that means I'm a few steps closer to construction.

I thought I would briefly share a pricetag of the project so far -- For a prototype, this is relatively cheap.

Engine: 160CC Lawn mower engine -- 75$
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/petar113507/HHO-ICE/0226011601.jpg)

Bottom side:
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/petar113507/HHO-ICE/0226011603.jpg)

Ammonium Hydroxide: Janitorial grade 10% -- 6 Dollars at my local hardware store
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/petar113507/HHO-ICE/photo.jpg)

Cooking Plate: 42 ish Dollars.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/petar113507/HHO-ICE/photo2.jpg)

Masonry Jars: Quart Jars -- 12 Dollars
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/petar113507/HHO-ICE/photo3.jpg)


Total So far: 135 $

(Plus Zinc crystals -- approx. 10 Dlls + free shipping)


As I'm hurrying up to wait while the zinc arrives, I was wondering -- Rad HHO -- How did you cook the crystals?  Was it with, or without a reflux condenser in your masonry jars?

I have been thinking I could drill out the top of the masonry jars, and use a valve and some aquarium tubing to make a makeshift condenser -- if it is nescessary at all.
I don't want to have one of these jars blow up on me -- But I was sort of hoping that the jars could withstand the pressures.

The next questions I have for the future:
1)Has anyone found any retailers for the sub-micron-pore bags?

2)What Kind of spark plugs have you decided to do?  I'm pretty sure Powerme suggested to use Kupra "firestorms" -- I'm just a little fuzzy on making them myself as of yet.  Does anyone have an idea if there might be an available "off the shelf" model to simply purchase?  I'm not entirely clear on what specifications I'm looking for the sparplug, or the driving circut.

Thanks Rad, and Power To Be -- It's nice to know someone else is working on this project.

When I get this thing to work -- I will be spreading the technology locally -- and will have some friends working with me in different cities for this.  :)

The future will be here shortly,
==Romo

Offline The Power To Be

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2011, 04:05:19 AM »
I am not the creator. I am a guy trying to find out if there is any truth in what you originally claimed. If i deviate from your method too much i will not achieve that goal.

I'm not saying i wont be creative at some point, im just trying to understand and prove to myself that your idea actually works as you describe first. 


I made my decision to try these experiment based on you and your many the posts in many threads. Usually i understand the projects i start before i spend money, this project was an exception, so yes i could use help.

Some of the things you say lately are very bazaar to me. I've concluded that you ether genius with good intentions, or a escapee from a crazy house. More than like a little of both. I realize you not that interested in helping much more, but i will continue to ask questions in hope that if not you someone may have a good suggestion. I will also offer ideas where i can. I for one, do believe we all can learn from each other.   I'm just not one with nature yet :)

Hey fishman, great humor, thanks. I cannot forget the scent, I have given up seafood long time ago, Tesla turned 100% vegan too. While we’re discussing Tesla, I have no desire to be compared to this great man, He suffered the same treatment that I am encountering. Name calling, Madness etc., etc., I thought we were already pass this stage?.

Fishman, If you cannot believe in yourself then please STOP right there. Save yourself the time and hassle.
I have already discussed ways to proceed with this project that is not expensive. You can make zinc oxide from Zamak, you can find zamak easily, old cars, electronics, car transmission, motor casing etc. If you use transmission Zamak, go online and find out what class it is, make, model, year simple search will tell you what it is. Use sodium hydroxide to oxidize zamac which has high zinc content, you can refine further by using floathing method etc.

There are many ways to make these crystals, it can be done with Red Phosphorus reflux, Sulfur etc. but we will stick with Ammnium as everyone can get it easily. Ditillaton has already been discussed.
This invention belongs to Dingle,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_WJfFzBe28&feature=related
He encountered legal problem, same scenario with all other non-petroleum technology.  Dingle never did reveal his secret, but after watching his clip, I made an atomizing chamber out of an old battery using ceramic piezo transducers and ZnO crystals, and I was able to produce the same result.

My work on crystal is not limited to Internal Combustion Engines as it I have been able to modify lattice of PbS to harvest Radiant Energy directly, the same principle Tesla originated and further developed by many others.

Hey Slovenia, please no hard feeling from my earlier comment,  the understanding is unique to everyone, some people may have to go through endless lifetimes where as others  can achieve it in a matter of seconds, if you feel that you are ready, then please do proceed.


If you wish to commercialize this project, please do proceed, I had mentioned other fields and they will be very helpful with new inputs that you may not have been able to see on your own. I have no interest in the application of this project, but others will have useful purpose for it.
When you understand the meaning of life, of nature etc., everything materialistic no longer have value, you will see that money is just pieces of paper, assets are mere possessions,  the only thing of value is Life itself.


Good job petar, this is not the greatest technology, there are other greater things, but this is a good start.




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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
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Offline The Power To Be

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2011, 05:19:50 AM »
link to Daniel Dingles site with more informtion and certificates of tests, his piezo transducers are much more effecient, I don't know of his formulation but it seems he's able to fracture HHO with only 36watts, you can use off the shelf transducers that will produce enough HHO t run a 2.4litre engine consuming under 300 watts, fine tuning will bring it down to 100 watts.

http://danieldingel.com/

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2011, 06:47:57 AM »
I am not the creator. I am a guy trying to find out if there is any truth in what you originally claimed. If i deviate from your method too much i will not achieve that goal.

I'm not saying i wont be creative at some point, im just trying to understand and prove to myself that your idea actually works as you describe first. 


I made my decision to try these experiment based on you and your many the posts in many threads. Usually i understand the projects i start before i spend money, this project was an exception, so yes i could use help.

Some of the things you say lately are very bazaar to me. I've concluded that you ether genius with good intentions, or a escapee from a crazy house. More than like a little of both. I realize you not that interested in helping much more, but i will continue to ask questions in hope that if not you someone may have a good suggestion. I will also offer ideas where i can. I for one, do believe we all can learn from each other.   I'm just not one with nature yet :)

Not bazaar.  I call it new age, unity consciousnes, enlightened, heart consciousness, genius or one who listens to the 'small still voice within' (as taught by author Susan Shumsky) .... it's all very familiar to me.  I'm glad to see Power to Be is still around.
    petar113507,  for being 20 y.o. you are way ahead of the crowd.  If you were 50 y.o. you would still be way ahead of the rest.  I think right here on this forum will be a good place to do group work unless the trolls get to heavy.  If that happens there are many alternatives. 
   Still waiting to get some ammonia as I'm far from any sources and I doubt ordering online is affordable as it's surely a hazardous liquid with high shipping cost.  I'll likely have some soon when we make our semi-annual trek into civilization :) 
   I'd ask everyone to communicate here but if another forum or place gets especially active on this please post a link to it in this thread.

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
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Offline RAD-HHO

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2011, 08:34:54 AM »
@Petar
I did not use a reflux condenser.  I did however use a one gallon zip lock bag filled with ice sat on top, hanging down on the sides of the jar.  Yeah I was concerned about the jar exploding too, so I took it outside and placed it inside a large 48 qt cooler.

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2011, 02:46:57 PM »
 
   Still waiting to get some ammonia as I'm far from any sources and I doubt ordering online is affordable as it's surely a hazardous liquid with high shipping cost.  I'll likely have some soon when we make our semi-annual trek into civilization :)

I got 500ml 30% for $15, the shipping was $15 dollars, it took about 3 days. The science company. www.sciencecompany.com  It would be nice to find it locally.


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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2011, 03:44:41 PM »
Not bazaar.  I call it new age, unity consciousnes, enlightened, heart consciousness, genius or one who listens to the 'small still voice within' (as taught by author Susan Shumsky) .... it's all very familiar to me.  I'm glad to see Power to Be is still around.
   
Yeah im glad to see he is still around and that he gets my humor also. :)

I do understand a little about New Age. But the part i find very confusing (or bazaar) is when The power to be says "Just believe in yourself and you can do it". What does that mean? For face value the words don't add up to much for me.
 Of course i believe i can do this.

On the other hand, many people believe they can do things but fail every day. Believing you can do something, and success in doing something are not always 100%. Look at the dozens of folks who tried and are still trying to replicate Fast Freddy's cell.

What I don't believe is that i could have done this, and many other things Ive succeeded at, by myself. I rely on my internet, i rely on my computer, i rely on the forum host, i rely on the participants, and all the people that made those tools and ideas available, that list goes on and on. So to think, or believe, i can do this or anything on my own, seems bazaar.  It appears to me that we are interdependent and that that is not a bad thing. FWIW 
 
Since this is off topic, if you care to explain this maybe you could PM me. Thanks

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2011, 03:52:01 PM »
I got 500ml 30% for $15, the shipping was $15 dollars, it took about 3 days. The science company. www.sciencecompany.com  It would be nice to find it locally.

I got mine on E-Bay. 1000ml for $27 total. Got it in one week.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=120688102947&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=97191406678

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2011, 03:58:14 PM »
Hi all,

the melting point of ammonium hydroxyde is lower than the water, maybe it's more easy to have high concentration of ammonium hydroxyde by freezing instead of evaporating and condensing, just a thought.

Geo ;)

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2011, 04:01:38 PM »

I don't want to have one of these jars blow up on me -- But I was sort of hoping that the jars could withstand the pressures.

The next questions I have for the future:
1)Has anyone found any retailers for the sub-micron-pore bags?

2)What Kind of spark plugs have you decided to do?  I'm pretty sure Powerme suggested to use Kupra "firestorms" -- I'm just a little fuzzy on making them myself as of yet.  Does anyone have an idea if there might be an available "off the shelf" model to simply purchase?  I'm not entirely clear on what specifications I'm looking for the sparplug, or the driving circut.



1.  Im still looking myself. It would be nice to find a source for this material.

2 The power to be said E 3 spark plugs http://www.e3sparkplugs.com/ would be better than standard plugs you can get them at O-Reilly's automotive and some other part places

 

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