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Author Topic: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric  (Read 411083 times)

Slovenia

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Participation Requested!!
« Reply #210 on: March 20, 2011, 12:29:25 PM »
Hi Guys,

Some of you folks who are not actively participating on this thread are very sharp and might be a real big help to the rest of us.  We have some good minds working on what Power To Be has shared but we could use a lot more help here.  There is just so much information to study and go through it's not right that a few carry the many.  Some of you silent types are very gifted smart persons and gleaning freely when you should be helping.  We might miss some of the nice little gifts The Power has hinted to somewhere in the information he has shared.  If you are really interested in seeing this project through to a positive end, please help us.  I'm just an average mind and I'm giving as much as I can.  Please Help!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

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Thanks Power To Be!!
« Reply #211 on: March 20, 2011, 12:32:58 PM »
Thanks for sharing with us Power To Be!!  I look forward to seeing what you post here every day.  When you do post here, it is the highlight of my day.  Thanks!!

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Re: Thanks Power To Be!!
« Reply #212 on: March 20, 2011, 12:47:12 PM »
Thanks for sharing with us Power To Be!!  I look forward to seeing what you post here every day.  When you do post here, it is the highlight of my day.  Thanks!!
Slovenia,
Thank you for your interest but really, these are old findings of others that I just have happened to stumbled upon. I am your equal, no more and no less.

I told someone last week of the water fog injection at the local discount store, he bought a
Vicks Ultrasonic Humidifier - $40
Small inverter -$30
Set of E3 plugs - $30

I saw him today at the Store and he happily reported gains of above 30% mpg for his mileage during this past week. He said it will be better as he's at 10% oil life and doing an oil change. Simple off the shelf items that will help with lower your fuel expenses. He only duct taped a piece of water hose to the humidifier vent and inserted it into the air intake.

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #213 on: March 20, 2011, 01:07:51 PM »
I'm having trouble keeping enough pressure to raise the boiling point of the ammonia to 60C...I think I ruined the first batch but will keep trying...

save it, and test it with a simple water test.

I have found with my crystals, if I saved the entire batch, I got a "feel" for what I was making -- in regards to HHO production.  I think that This is part of a process of learning the full effects in a system -- the effects of growing the crystals with temperature, pressure differences -- it is all a matter of simply being observant.

If you save the old batches and remember under what conditions they were grown -- it is at least possible to troubleshoot and understand under which conditions that the best/worst crystals were grown under.

I am looking for the answers that, even if the internet were to be brought down tomorrow -- I would still have a fighting chance at observing 'what is happening' on a very small level.  Do as many tests as you can please -- I am waiting for someone else to have results against which I can compare my own findings.

PS. Those ORME dew's have the "peacock" oily signature in them against light.  I feel that this may be better ingested at once, instead of leeched through plant life into consumable vitamin form. 

What would you suggest, to me (or anyone following in your/my footsteps) to undergo the transition?  It is my current aim in life, to live this life out, and fulfill what purposes I can to assist in.  How may I further find answers, if not by soley the method in which I have described? 

Powerme, you seem to be riddled with many ways to understand, I am merely seeking as many avenues as I can to further my progress here.  I want the transition -- I can see my own understandings as to how I can further myself, but I wish to know -- how did you undergo this transition?

If need be, PM or Email is available -- If at all possible, can you make any more information known to others? It is a wish of mine -- I ask, can you help me, or point me in a furthering direction?

Best wishes and many thanks thus far,
==Romo
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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #214 on: March 20, 2011, 01:15:22 PM »
Hey Romo,
Yes, the Lunar Oil is highly precious, do not let it go to waste. If it is all natural, you do not need to cleanse with plant transmutation.

Do you have visitations from the higher entities?.

Be as Novel as you can be, your time here on the earth duration is just like the blink of an eye.

Good day.

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« Reply #215 on: March 20, 2011, 01:23:11 PM »
Slovenia,
Thank you for your interest but really, these are old findings of others that I just have happened to stumbled upon. I am your equal, no more and no less.

I told someone last week of the water fog injection at the local discount store, he bought a
Vicks Ultrasonic Humidifier - $40
Small inverter -$30
Set of E3 plugs - $30

I saw him today at the Store and he happily reported gains of above 30% mpg for his mileage during this past week. He said it will be better as he's at 10% oil life and doing an oil change. Simple off the shelf items that will help with lower your fuel expenses. He only duct taped a piece of water hose to the humidifier vent and inserted it into the air intake.

I am also thrilled at your friend's gain.

I hope to be reporting similar gains in approx. 1 week's time.  May I ask, however -- how you happened to stumble upon your many tangents, or where I might be able to further investigate some of your findings?  I understand "old books", and am downloading many files of these "older publications" to potentially have a reserve of information in which to investigate -- But I am seeking more information, more experiences & observations (From other people) in which to cross reference (against my own experience) -- that I might be able to clairify the findings in more general, understand-able terms to others.

I am not concerned anymore whether these things contradict modern science, as I seem to have observed some results that defy my explaination -- But simply wish to know more.

(Here is where I issued an apology later -- I was NOT doing something I thought it was.  It was just an embarassing misunderstanding on my part )


One of such, is putting water into a certain geometry [circle] (tuned according to the wavelength) -- so as to make a standing wave at 45-50 KHZ in the middle of the caviation chamber -- So as to compensate for the bubble to be formed at the standing wave in the center of the resonant chamber.

This was done in a basketball-shaped figure from the CVS pharmacy.  I used the ball to form a cast of plastic, and tuned the frequencey accordingly.  This is very similar to keeley's findings -- just do your research on him.  Powerme has been gracious enough to leave some tangents to lead you in the right direction -- this is at least what lead me to "brush up" with this material again, to further understand it.

Anyhow -- These were the general guidelines by which I abided, and have seen water shower all about the room in an abrubt "bang" -- with enough force to shatter my backyard fence. (and a portion of my neighbors fence as well!)

Powerme, I wish to further my avenues in which you have described, as understanding nature.  Also, understanding the ways in which nature seems to store information in frequencies/waves -- would be vastly helpful.  I understand disclosure according to to normal safety standards -- but I am quite sure I am willing to experiment with the "risky" and "unstable" procedures.  Would you like pictures of the shattered fence as proof? 

I am a student here.
I am willing to learn.
Can you help me?

Anything you can offer, will hopefully insightful to me -- and further, I can hope to clairify, and also point others in a similar direction of interest, in order to understand.

Thank you for your answers,
==Romo
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Re: Thanks Power To Be!!
« Reply #216 on: March 20, 2011, 01:38:55 PM »

Powerme, I wish to further my avenues in which you have described, as understanding nature.  Also, understanding the ways in which nature seems to store information in frequencies/waves -- would be vastly helpful.  I understand disclosure according to to normal safety standards -- but I am quite sure I am willing to experiment with the "risky" and "unstable" procedures.  Would you like pictures of the shattered fence as proof? 

I am a student here.
I am willing to learn.
Can you help me?

Anything you can offer, will hopefully insightful to me -- and further, I can hope to clairify, and also point others in a similar direction of interest, in order to understand.

Thank you for your answers,
==Romo
I am trying to help you as much as I can, You still DO NOT know WHO YOU ARE!!!!!

You are not the student.
I have nothing to teach.

Only you, yourself can help, You hold your own key. Think of a destructive caterpillar, it will only morph when it is mature, please grow up.

You will get visitation when you are ready, they will show you the way. It is only self taught, there is nothing more that I can do. Work on your Virtues.

You are trying too hard, take it easy, enjoy life please.

Have a good day.

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Great Job Romo
« Reply #217 on: March 20, 2011, 01:51:42 PM »
Thanks for working on the Power1 tangents and sharing.

Power1 has given us a lot of subtle hints that I think are a really big deal if only we'll evaluate them and try to understand where he is trying to lead us and go there.

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #218 on: March 20, 2011, 02:06:28 PM »
Hey Romo,
Just a heed, since we are both Male, you probably will first encounter the lovely Isis, no prank or joke here. It is not part of the transition, I still do not know why she came first?.
I tried and moved on as quickly as I could but it was a long while, nothing bad just too much excitement for me.

@All,
Sorry if this is way off topic, your higher self comes with a whole new world. Higher octaves as Walter Russell had called it. Do not attempt to cheat your way there by any means, please it is not worth the TROUBLE!

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Dreams
« Reply #219 on: March 20, 2011, 02:11:19 PM »
I've been trying to contact my higher self with methods shared by Petar/Romo and have had some interesting results.  I am dreaming like crazy now.  During the dream, everything is really clear and interactive.  Mostly the dreams have been about this Power To Be water for fuel system.  During the dream it's like I am being told what to do and how to do it but there is a problem.  When I wake up, I can't remember any parts of the dream other than it had something to do with learning about this Power1 project.  So, what do I need to do so that I can remember the dreams?  Thanks in advance.

This is related to this project in that I plan on using it to reach a successful end with this project.

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #220 on: March 20, 2011, 02:19:00 PM »
I'm having trouble keeping enough pressure to raise the boiling point of the ammonia to 60C...I think I ruined the first batch but will keep trying...
I had a similar problem with my first batch also.

I found that that heating a pot of water (like in one of Romo's picture) to transfer the heat worked much better than just the jar placed on on the heater stirrer. Heating that pot of water to 67C made the jar contents 60C and was much easier to maintain. I also had a fan pointed at it the hole time from about 2 feet away. i believe the fan helped to condensate vapors by keeping the exposed part of the jar cooler.

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #221 on: March 20, 2011, 06:03:31 PM »
In regards to what everyone was fussing about before with the oscilator circut -- powerme has given us a circut to research for the fogger oscilator.  From that circut -- into a tesla transformer and adjust the stepped up-voltage & frequency (might as well look it up, and become familiar with it too, to use it in different components).

If you can figure these things out -- then you can buy just the pizeo ceramic's -- and hook it up to the transformer.  ;)
Much more efficiency, price-wise.  In the extra 20-25 dollars I would otherwise spend on Shipping, I can snag quite a few more pizeo's -- or just buy a bit of wire for winding the transformer.

A friend of mine basically threw one together, and it sort of works.  It's not real pretty -- so I'm looking at how the thing works, and looking into calculating the needs of transformer/specs.  I don't have a real accurate way to measure it, so I'm gonna need to buy some proper equipment

So far -- if anyone wants to also look into it: I read the condensed intro to Tesla Transformers by Eric Dollard -- it's a good start.  Lots of websites helping you build a tesla coil.  I found some blogs to help me for some of the equations to calculate the size of the cap. bank, as well as the length/spark gap size.

Just thought I'd give an update on the "frequency" problem we had before.  These transformers seem to have the potential to simplify a little bit in the long run.

Cheers,
==Romo

As a note:  I'm getting help from an electrical engineer on the Tesla Transformer/Tesla Coils.   I'm even getting friends to chip in a little bit of time too -- I'm not alone on getting my information here.  I don't quite fully understand what I am doing -- I'm still reading up on bits of information I didn't know about electronics.  :(
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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #222 on: March 20, 2011, 06:28:55 PM »
I had a similar problem with my first batch also.

I found that that heating a pot of water (like in one of Romo's picture) to transfer the heat worked much better than just the jar placed on on the heater stirrer. Heating that pot of water to 67C made the jar contents 60C and was much easier to maintain. I also had a fan pointed at it the hole time from about 2 feet away. i believe the fan helped to condensate vapors by keeping the exposed part of the jar cooler.

Nice work.   ;D

I also find that between 65-70 keeps the solution at the "right" temp. 
I just keep it around that temperature, and it works great.

Have you noticed any differences is cooking the crystals and constantly agitating the ammonium? (Shaking with vigor for higher pressure)  I think that I get slightly more crystals when I cook them at a higher pressure, but I'm not sure.  My reason for agitating the crystals periodically (every 10 mins to so during the "grow" phase), was that I had an ice cube on the lid of the jar.  If I did not shake it hard enough -- the top part of the jar would get too cold, and the pressure would not be high enough to pressure cook them. ;)

Remember though, cook it too hot, and you kill the batch of crystals.  In my experience the temperature is the easiest thing to botch up.  I would suspect there is also an upper limit on pressure -- but I'm pretty sure the jar would bust, before the pressure gets too high for those crystals.

I am currently working on adding less ammonium to the crystal paste -- as I currently feel that with the concentrated ammonium, I should be able to create more zinc "slurry" paste and less liquid sloshing about.  Just a thought.   ;)

I have also found that adding the crystals, after making the ammonium 60 Degrees C, opening the lid, and tossing them in -- and THEN sealing it shut -- doesn't really hurt the overall batch, even if you loose some ammonium.  I wear goggles and a scarf so it doesn't get my face. 

I compensate for the evaporated stuffs by adding about 320 ML's -- I eyeball it around 300 ish (no more than 350 though -- I have had pressure "hiss" leaks if I put in too much, even in the 1/2 gal. jar.)  Remember though -- I am weaning this down. 

I have gotten down to 200 ML of higher concentration ammonium with, as of yet no detriment.  I would suspect a reduction up to 150, or 100 ML would be possible, but this ammount is yet untested.

Finally, if you recycle your ammonium -- freeze-distill it a second time before you use it again.  For me, this helped make it equally as concentrated as the "new" stuff (the non-recycled stuff).  I don't know if this happened to you yet -- but if you don't check by throwing it in the freezer, you could wind up with a "dud" batch, like me...

These are just some ideas that would've been useful if I had known before.  If not -- you'll learn real fast with your "oopsies"

Hope this helps you guys not make too many "oopsies",
==Romo

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I'm sorry. :(
« Reply #223 on: March 20, 2011, 10:33:16 PM »
I would like to extend an apology out, as I did not intend to be misleading.   :-[

I should listen more carefully, so that I do not relay any false information.

It was not an HHO explosion -- it was from a propane tank.  Allow me to explain the accident.

Me and a friend were trying to replicate the explosive phase of water to see if it were at all applicable to this engine project.  We had a plastic ball-thingy from cvs -- we put a pvc tube out of it, and filled it with water to see if we could make any standing wave nodes inside the ball -- I was hoping for.

We were "tuning" it by moving the fogger's distance up and down the PVC pipe.  Sometimes the ball shook funny, but it was nothing major.  I did not tune the pond fogger's running frequencey.

I went inside to use the restroom, and while I was there, we left the pond fogger running sitting still.  Upon closer examination, Instead of exploding -- the darned thing just was made poorly.  It fell apart.  >:(

There was also, an unrelated accident with propane tanks nearby -- which blew apart the fence.  Me and my friend were thankfully, unscathed inside the apartment.

I was dumb enough to jump to conclusions of this last night.  We investigated the outside explosion, but found little more than our poorly constructed fence, battered.  :P

Neither of us knew about the propane until this morning, we just knew something blew up out back, and thought it was our device.  It turns out, some of our neighbors were seriously injured, and none of this accident was me "Stumbling upon the explosive phase of water."  It was something with their gas tanks.  :(

Almost immedeately thereafter, I pulled out my "dew trap", and posted a bit on these forums.  I was even ignorant enough to not notice the paramedics outside.  It was late, and they didn't make much noize.... Even so.

Thankfully, that accident wasn't my fault.

Again though, Jumping to conclusions was my bad. 

I shouldn't have thought that unlocking that "phase" of water, would have been that easy.   ::)

I am sorry for having given the appearance of done something incredible, when I had not.

Eesh. 
Now, after such a long night, I'm gonna retire. 
G'day all,
==Romo

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Electric Wind (FYI)
« Reply #224 on: March 21, 2011, 11:17:25 AM »
Hi Guys,

I've been studying all the notes Power1 left us so far and ran into this gem from March 9, 2011.

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Spark Gap

March 9, 2011
Power1

great intelligence Romo,
use spark gap with magnet quenching to produce electric wind, this moves gaseous at the same time solidifying bonding force thus liberating HHO by ionization.

Same principle used by Tesla in his Electric flying machine. Electric wind has many peculiar properties too!.