Koen1, maybe you are having fun with these pics which is about all you can do with it but raburgeson isn't. He is clearly out of his mind with some bizarre obsession that is just not normal. And besides what possible outcome can come from all of this? If there really was a conspiracy to cover up some nefarious doings in Mars or anywhere else why take the chance and even use photos of the place and then airbrush them? It would be better to create whole images in a studio so that absolutely nothing could be compromised. They obviously have enough money to do whatever they want, in any manner they want. Why bother taking a chance with possibly exposing their activities by using pictures from the actual locations?
Why bother going to the moon when you can fake it? Reasoning like that doesn't get you anywhere either...
And although I agree that Raymond is a bit focused on what he believes is his crack at a disinformation sceme,
I would not want to go so far as to say he is out of his mind. That seems a bit harsh.
Seems to me he is simply one of the few hard-core "I want to believe" people. There's people who idolise (as in deify) Elvis,
there's people still looking for the thrid gunman on the grassy nole, there's people who literally believe fire and brimstone
are going to hail down from the sky when the third angel pours out the scales, and there's even people who seem to
believe you can fight terrorism by terrorising people, and the latter actually run a country.
So what's the big problem with Raburgesons hobby to study and interpret Mars pictures that do get pulled from
the web for reasons unknown? Leave him be, let him tell us what he thinks he sees. I don't see most of the
stuff he talks about, but he's not actually harassing anyone with it, and if you don't want to read his posts
you certainly don't have to. Did you ever enjoy watching X-files, or did you go around telling everyone that that
Fox Mulder character is one crazy sob with his alien conspiracy ideas?
It is not like any one else can go there and prove them wrong as everyone is totally dependent on whatever they show?
Yeah, except for the fact that nowadays Nasa is NOT the only one taking Mars pics anymore, the ESA has been doing it too,
and their pictures show different colours than the Nasa ones... Ok, NASA recently adjusted the most recent pictures to accord
more with the true colours as to not be ridiculed for publicising red shifted pictures, and the ESA lander/rover failed after landing
so there's not really any surface pics from ESA yet, but the orbital pics are very good. And besides that, taking pictures and analysing them
are two different things. That NASA took the pictures does not mean they also have absolute knowledge of what they show,
nor that they wouldn't alter the pics if they did show anything they don't want the public to know about. Ever heard of the Disclosure Project?
Perhaps interesting to check it out, especially on the subject of NASA picture editing?
Or just for fun, you might want to look up Phil Schneider.
Totally different stuff, but very X-files.
I could shoot pictures of the deserts of Arizona or New Mexico and call it Mars and no one would be the wiser.
True. And you could also get to Mars, find it to be very much like Arizona or New Mexico, and decide to red-shift the colours a bit
and blur out any waterlike features so that those nasty Russians don't get it into their cold-war minds to actually go there.
But let's follow that path of thought of yours for another few steps eh?
So you say NASA could have taken shots of a dry Arizona/New Mexico region and presented them as MArs pictures, since nobody
else actually has a rover on Mars so nobody can confirm or falsify their pictures?
Hehe, now who's talking about conspiracies?
So you're calling Raburgeson crazy for claiming to see airbrushed and otherwise altered pictures of Mars from NASA,
but you suggest NASA may not have actually taken pictures on MArs at all and just presents Arizona pics to the world?
What sort of non-conspiracy interpretation would you connect to that, then?
OU.com is pretty wacky but this thread takes the cake.
Again I disagree. You should read the Lee-Tseung thread.
While this is, admittedly, a bit flakey and verges on the edge of improbability, but still mostly entertaining,
the Lee-Tseung thread is really off.
That guy actually believes he can extract free energy from gravity
by using his self-invented "Lee-Tseung Pull" during a pendulum swing. He can't prove one bit of it, and has
been proven wrong quite a number of times already, but he didn't give up. Recently his son-in-law came
on here and asked everyone in that thread to stop feeding the old guys delusions as he was actually
mentally not well. So if you really want to read a nutcases ranting, go there.
The people who frequented the thread called it "the Larry Tseung comedy Hour".