Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Google Search

Custom Search

Author Topic: Mars color  (Read 104647 times)

Offline Bobbotov

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 207
Re: Mars color
« Reply #135 on: July 02, 2008, 06:52:23 PM »
I have to admit that bobbotov makes a good case about the shoe rock.  But how do you explain THIS?  The sky is blue.  And also if you look at the bottom left corner (you have to blow up the picture alot), you will see how some of the rocks sort of form a line.  I know it may be hard to make it out, but what are the odds of a line of rocks being there like that?  The possible explanations are endless, and I will let the good people of this board run with this ball.

You need to explain from where the picture came from (provide a NASA link). It could be an Earth picture for all I know.

Offline Bulbz

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 419
Re: Mars color
« Reply #136 on: July 02, 2008, 06:58:03 PM »
I have to admit that bobbotov makes a good case about the shoe rock.  But how do you explain THIS?  The sky is blue.  And also if you look at the bottom left corner (you have to blow up the picture alot), you will see how some of the rocks sort of form a line.  I know it may be hard to make it out, but what are the odds of a line of rocks being there like that?  The possible explanations are endless, and I will let the good people of this board run with this ball.


Hang-on a minute... That photo you posted has the filename "unusualmarsphoto2.jpg" !... Are you sure that you posted the correct photo, coz there is somebody kneeling down in the one that you posted !. :-\

Offline Bobbotov

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 207
Re: Mars color
« Reply #137 on: July 02, 2008, 07:26:19 PM »
Are you sure that you posted the correct photo, coz there is somebody kneeling down in the one that you posted !. :-\

Duh, that's one of the Martians.

Offline utilitarian

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 816
Re: Mars color
« Reply #138 on: July 03, 2008, 12:30:39 AM »
Duh, that's one of the Martians.

You jest?  Here.  Take a look at the right-most (smaller) rock.  Those two holes - definitely alien eye slits.  I think this is all we need to see.  Aliens have been to Mars and have left their art work.

Offline Bobbotov

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 207
Re: Mars color
« Reply #139 on: July 03, 2008, 12:42:55 AM »
You jest?  Here.  Take a look at the right-most (smaller) rock.  Those two holes - definitely alien eye slits.  I think this is all we need to see.  Aliens have been to Mars and have left their art work.

You missed the really scary part. The two big rocks are a pair of Martian balls.

Offline Bulbz

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 419
Re: Mars color
« Reply #140 on: July 03, 2008, 12:39:54 PM »
Duh, that's one of the Martians.


Well then tell them to change their fashion sense, they look like tourists :P.

Offline Koen1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1172
Re: Mars color
« Reply #141 on: July 03, 2008, 12:59:14 PM »
@Bobbotov: I don't get you, dude.

First you give me and Groundloop a lot of shit about us being delusional for having a bit of fun here,

and now you are doing exactly the same!

Why did you feel the need to give us a hard time about something you have obviously discoverd is indeed fun?

Offline raburgeson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 705
Re: Mars color
« Reply #142 on: July 03, 2008, 04:09:10 PM »
It's the viewers guys, I just put in ACDC pro2, It can't do it. I'm using Photoshop 6, I've noticed Paint Shop Pro does show you some of it but, not as well. I haven't tried others yet but I suspect they aren't near as clear either. This crap is there and I'm stuck on some things too, like 2 ponds in the picture or are they? Is it 1 pond with air brushing separating the middle of it? When you can see this stuff clear it's still confusing in spots. Well throw the images on disk an visit a friend that has Photoshop, it could be they used this program to do the dirty work.

I will try other viewers if I can find them with trials, I have over 2 grand tied up in Photoshop and am not going to buy a bunch of others. We got some interesting results in Windowsxp paint. It showed a couple of spots fairly clear.

I would be ribbing myself if all I saw this with was ACDC. You can't see anything with it and I don't think trial mode has anything to do with it. You don't have to own Photoshop just have access to someone that does. I'm sure they will look at it with you. Even a student at a commercial art school or something would be interested if you tell him why you want to look. I can see it on a lcd and crt here. 2 different video cards, one is hi-def and the other is a Nvidia, as long as the monitor is clear the results are good. Oh, the lcd one has Photoshop 8 CS2 on it.

I got shock and awe the first time I hit 700% zoom, it wore off. This crap is there you just aren't seeing it and the viewer you are using is probably what is letting you down. Things to clear the picture.
Try equalize on it if it's red, you can undo in edit if that doesn't do it. Then try auto levels, and in some cases on some of these photos use both, equalize first. That's simply all I do to these pictures then I play with the contrast and zoom. Raising the contrast some helps get rid of the transparent stamps, so they don't fog the picture. Most of the seeable stuff that matters is around 700% zoom on every picture I've looked at.

Ive looked over more than these 2
Husband Hill
Larry's lookout
Victoria crater
Home plate
Olympus mons
Twin Peaks
Two Tone Rock
East Hills
Missoula Crater
West Valley
Horizon Hills
Cydonia
Endurance Crater
Bonneville Crater
To name a few plus a number Panoramas, sol, and PIA pictures from large to extremely  large.
Remember I said there is no face there are roads on that feature and they are being used.
Do you remember the saw teeth at the bottom, they tip the camera to screw up your perception of level.
Then they have problems putting the complete picture together. Look at a civilian panorama, everything fits together perfectly because the camera is level on a tripod. Wake up.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2008, 04:48:01 PM by raburgeson »

Offline Koen1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1172
Re: Mars color
« Reply #143 on: July 03, 2008, 04:44:50 PM »
Yes I remember. I just still don't see the stuff you're seeing.
Doesn't matter if I use photoshop, if I look at them on a widescreen
full HD, if I adjust the colours, zoom in 700%+, nothing of that
makes me see anything like roads in use (which I assume means
you're seeing traffic on the roads?), stripmines, forklifts, etc.
I don't doubt that you truly believe you are seeing them,
but I can't make out anything more than blurs and certainly
nothing that clearly looks like vehicles or anything... Sorry :(

Offline raburgeson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 705
Re: Mars color
« Reply #144 on: July 03, 2008, 04:51:07 PM »
No, I can't see traffic, I can see clean roads, no rocks on them nothing they are clean as a whistle. Did you find the open area with the 2 trees in husbandhill_spirit_big? The trees should be about 1/4 inch high at 700 zoom. I'm sure the Chinese have done this by now so you can do it. The roads you first find go down and to the right, 2 of them. Follow them down and find the parking lot. The truck on it isn't clear but it's backed up to a building. The building is just a fuzz. That fuzz needs cracked out of the picture, I'd give a lot to find out what viewer shows this clear.

I have a better question, why are they working so hard to hide water? Maybe people will want to go there and they won't be able to rob the place in peace? Windowsxp paint shows the truck better and doesn't show the building at all.

Tell me you can't see the buildings on the horizon.

 
« Last Edit: July 03, 2008, 05:36:59 PM by raburgeson »

Offline Koen1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1172
Re: Mars color
« Reply #145 on: July 03, 2008, 05:31:59 PM »
No, I can't see traffic, I can see clean roads, no rocks on them nothing they are clean as a whistle.
Hmm...
And why do you suppose they haven't airbrushed them out then?
Quote
Did you find the open area with the 2 trees in husbandhill_spirit_big? The trees should be about 1/4 inch high at 700 zoom.
Went over the entire pic on 25, 50, 100, 200, 400, 800% zoom, but have not seen any trees on that pic... Where do you see them??
Quote
I'm sure the Chinese have done this by now so you can do it.
Well I don't know, I have a very different eyeset. ;)
Besides, the Chinese have been seeing all kinds of things I have not, such as "the great march forward" which they apparently recognised
in murdering all opposition to the communist "cultural" revolution, "democracy" which they recognise in their totalitarian government,
and terrorism which they recognise in the Dalai Lama. So the things the Chinese see are not really the things I usually see. ;)
Quote
The roads you first find go down and to the right, 2 of them. Follow them down and find the parking lot. The truck on it isn't clear but it's backed up to a building. The building is just a fuzz.
Well I have serious trouble finding what you're talking about...
I'll attach a crop-out that shows the only part of the pic where I suspect you may be seeing this,
but I still can't see it, I'm just guessing...

Offline raburgeson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 705
Re: Mars color
« Reply #146 on: July 03, 2008, 05:45:29 PM »
Husbandhill_spirit_big.jpg is a true gray scale, black and white picture. First we have to get on the same one. It's the smaller one in the rar file I gave a download link too. Then go to the right side at the highest ground. Scoll left slowly, when you see the spot in the last crop you are already past the trees. This picture is in a high population area, the background code simply didn't hide it, it's the very best one to work from.

Hang in and try this I'll get you there. First lets get you to realize what the roads look like the way they hide them and the buildings. After we do this I'll have you pick up the last known release of the (face on mars) the one where they said there was no face. That face copy is everywhere, it's easy to get.

These people are traveling on the ground like we do. Believe me I've searched the friendly skies and none of these pictures have anything flying in them. I guess NASA figured UFO hunters were going to go over these photos real good. You don't have to equalize or anything, just zoom in.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M105RS60

The rar file if you don't have it.

I just got water4gas like I said I would and I have an itch to get started on it but, I stay right here till we get this going. You are going to love this I just know it. This is 3595 X 983 Pixels 320 KB in size.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2008, 06:45:26 PM by raburgeson »

Offline raburgeson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 705
Re: Mars color
« Reply #147 on: July 03, 2008, 06:58:57 PM »
I don't know what the difference is, I increased the size of the picture to 9000 pixels and you can stiil see the trees and the open are but, all you can see where there are buildings is just airbrushed garble. Increased it to make it look big enough to view without having to work on it. Zooming on the regular picture is much clearer. Well here is the trees anyway and you can see the size of the open area. See on the right side of the open area right where I posted them to be before.

Offline Koen1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1172
Re: Mars color
« Reply #148 on: July 03, 2008, 06:59:48 PM »
Husbandhill_spirit_big.jpg is a true gray scale, black and white picture. First we have to get on the same one. It's the smaller one in the rar file I gave a download link too. Then go to the right side at the highest ground.
But that one is smaller and has a much lower resolution...?! If I zoom in 200% there it is just one big blur, there is absolutely nothing clear to be seen there...
So you're zooming in to 700% on a picture that already turns into a grey blur at 200%? and then you even see trees and a parking lot?
Well I've just seriously tortured my eyes looking over the whole right side of the picture and I can't even see that crop I posted clearly on that pic...
Quote
Scoll left slowly, when you see the spot in the last crop you are already past the trees. This picture is in a high population area, the background code simply didn't hide it, it's the very best one to work from.
Alright, if you say so, but I still can't find your trees... anything not on the foreground is just a blur, especially
on the greyscale pic...

Quote
Hang in and try this I'll get you there. First lets get you to realize what the roads look like the way they hide them and the buildings. After we do this I'll have you pick up the last known release of the (face on mars) the one where they said there was no face. That face copy is everywhere, it's easy to get.
Ok well I'll just
hang in there then...

Quote
I just got water4gas like I said I would and I have an itch to get started on it but, I stay right here till we get this going. You are going to love this I just know it.
Hey dude don't let me keep you from playing with you new water4gas thing if you want :)
I still would like to see your trees and parking lot and all, but I'm sure we can still do that in the near future too?
So if you're really anxious to go tinker then by all means do go have fun, we'll continue this a little later. :)

By the way, I did find a weird green haze on that colour picture... I bet you saw it too?
I'll attach another crop that shows it, as well as my latest guesstimate of what may be your trees ;)
The pic was colour adjusted a bit to clarify the colour contrast.

Oh, and just fyi I'm attachign a picture of Aristarcus crater on the moon, which can be clearly
seen to emit blueish light... :) Not Mars related but at least witnessed by many people. ;)

[edit] Ah, you posted your greyscale tree pic as i was typing this message. :)
I did in fact see those on the grey pic! But I can't say with any degree of certainty that they are trees...
After all, there's lots of odd shapes on the greyscale pic...
Just like some of the vague blurry shapes on the 9meg colour pic appear to look vaguely
like animals...
And there's a fairly bright whitish dot on the greyscale pic all the way in the blurry hazy distance,
which does not seem to accord with the darker colourations of the rest of the pic...
Anyway, now I see your trees :D Or at least, now I know where to find what you believe to be trees
on that picture.
Funny enough no such thing is visible on the more detailed colour pic... But then again, that previous
crop of what I guessed might be your parking lot is hardly recognisable as such on the greyscale pic...
I'm getting a bit confused now... ;)

anyway, I'm holding on to my hat for the roads and parking lot pic. :)

Offline aether22

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1057
Re: Mars color
« Reply #149 on: July 04, 2008, 03:24:22 AM »
We are programmed to see patterns. It is one of the hallmarks of being human. But it is not real.

I agree, it's just plain unlikely even if Mars had shoes and cats and jet engines and gun placements.
I have heard many such claims, but think about it for a minute.

If you dropped a camera at random on the surface of the earth you are not likely to see any of these things even though there are plenty of all of them.

Though I'll admit that cat skull does havea significant number of similarities to the drawing.