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Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #90 on: June 27, 2008, 10:25:18 PM »
Well, the news is starting to gear up for some great government news release. Bull crap, they intend to
choke an release almost nothing. We have to force the information out of them. This picture has to be
cracked and they can't be allowed to squeak by and hold us down any longer. Free energy and space travel now. They say the oil fields are worth trillions, I say trillions in national debt to their rich buddies. They need cornered and straightened out. It's science, I'm sorry there is no romance of a face on mars, it's not there. What is there is technology that belongs to us. We don't need a benevolent alien race to come save us. Our own technology can come out and save us. Don't you find that more assuring. There is nothing wrong will being self sufficient. If there is an alien race out there somewhere we will be able to go find them. We have the tool here to fight the truth out of them. Let's go for a real disclosure. We funded all this, we deserve far more than a couple of tid bits tossed to us. By us I mean the people of the entire world, not just a few. The people that worked for poor wages in a third world country has invested in this too. All the people that made this world work while all this has been developed have a stake in this. I'm not settling for you can plant things up on mars as a disclosure and you shouldn't either. You deserve better than that. Let's get the buildings on that picture cleared up.

Why did they kill Kennedy, they never came out with motives. How about this one. He was going to tell us we were colonizing Mars. They have stolen your life from you since the day he died. They are never going to be able to repay you. Make them get all, every last bit of this technology out on the table for the people. Every last scratch and sniff of it, you deserved this since 1960.

Again I urge you we need this picture's background cracked. We have to throw a clear undeniable picture into the faces of those that believe a cell phone is a great technological advance. Our science has been put in prison without a trial. NASA did not release true information as ordered by a federal judge under the freedom of information act. A class action suit should be started, we want the information, let the lawyers make what they want as court costs.

Those 2 bozos running for president are chosen face liars for the crooks behind this swindle. Watch them closely, do not trust anything they say you didn't torture them for.

I'm moving at military speed on this. You guys are human and tough enough to take it. Just follow me soldier and see were I lead you. I did say use a game player sniper, you used a real one and still got a result. A real sniper isn't used to dealing with pixelated images. This image is down to pixels because it is the reflection of a small gold piece on the rover. It's not necessarily completely flat. Gold and the sun is at his back and a strong reflection is behind him from a window. It's not my picture it is a cropping of there picture. I cannot trust China not to make some kind of deal with these scum. We have to see this through.

Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #91 on: June 27, 2008, 10:49:45 PM »
All that fake red on mars is caused by the fake camera adjustments. They added red by shooting into the infrared and displaying infrared as red. There are whole lot of sites on the net discussing L1 to L5 that explain every thing. That's enough in information that you will be able to search them. Mars is correctly described as the butterscotch planet and you can search that too.

http://www.msss.com/mars/pictures/usgs_color_mosaics/334.jpg

This is what mars looks like when they aren't lying to you! Notice they cut out the atmosphere so you can't tell it's blue. Old European explorations of Mars give you the blue atmosphere information. Images are available on the net.

The militias of Pennsylvania and the Pennsylvania citizens were called backward Bible toting gunmen. Well we seem to be cutting edge don't we and we are willing to pry this technology form cold dead hands if we have to.
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Offline Bulbz

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #92 on: June 28, 2008, 12:30:28 AM »
With the amount of impact scars on Mars' surface, it makes me wonder if it was a war that wiped-out most of it.

Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #93 on: June 28, 2008, 02:53:01 AM »
It can't be ruled out that the human race could have lost several civilizations before our present one. For the moment I focused on this one and know the history books are hog wash and need rewritten just from information coming from underwater cities. It's the here and now and what they slole from us that needs recovered first.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #94 on: June 28, 2008, 02:56:20 AM »

You say you want disclosure, but it might not be all that you think it is.  From my research the main reason for this cover-up is the realization that there are many other different races of beings inhabiting both our planet, and a lot of the planets in our solar system.  Lets assume this is true, so what would become of the world after learning this?  People would be stunned, and like a deer frozen in the headlights, not bother to go to work the following days.  I think the governments fear this scenario believing the world would literally stop, and economies would tumble. 

Then there's the unlimited technology factor, where technology will out-mode the human being, and since our world runs by humans producing goods, we would be devastated.  In order to bring this about in a sensitive manner, our way of life would first have to change, which is why I think some groups are seeking to create the nwo.  The aliens know this which is why they remain cloaked and unattainable.  They are doing it for our own good.  We haven't reached that level where we can accept the truth.  Take the typical flying saucer technology.  This is anti-gravity propulsion, basically creating distortions of space and time.  Can you imagine if that got out and were available to the public.  People can't even handle cars without speeding, crashing, driving drunk and killing people.  Of course this technology would be a wonder to have, not having to worry about g-force, no time loss, less if no fatigue, crossing insane distances instantaneously,.. But what would the evils of the world do with this technology?  It would be chaos.  If you release any given piece of this information, you have to give it all up.  I actually believe people should be aware of all this information, but I think its gonna have be gradually weaved into our reality.

I'm still wondering what you mean by "crack the image".. ;D  Also China knows, just as America knows, as well as most others, so no China's not gonna give us the real images either.  We have to make our own adaptive optical telescopes, made from like 50 - 8" computer controlled schmidt cassegrain's in sync.. ;)

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #95 on: June 28, 2008, 02:59:11 AM »

The key to all tyranny is to keep everybody thinking they are contributing to a common good...while they are doing just the opposite.

This is easily done by compartmentalization as said above...all involved have no idea what they are a contributer to.

A look a ancient artifacts is all one needs to determine off planet visitation.

There is something to be said for childhood vaccinations destroying most people's ability to put information together and to detect patterns which enables one to see a things from a broader perspective.

And to those effected, life is but a series of unrelated events, to be reacted to with the appropriate emotion, and then moving on with day to day routines.

Regards...


Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #96 on: June 28, 2008, 06:23:49 AM »
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicphotos.html

Here, history is important, this particular bit is moon history, but, still important. I don't know the name of the astronaut or which Apollo mission, However, it's findable. The thing is a colonized mars is much more important. The technology to go to the moon is far less than the technology to travel steady to a farther destination, terra form, and hide all that activity. They were doing this in 1960, they have even better Technology than that now, the people payed for every last bit and they have been denied access to it. So, catch up on history. We have to beat this information out of them and some of them will not survive the beating. They killed a US president to keep this secret. Stay on Mars colonization, it happened, there are Earthlings living on Mars and I have no indication of aliens living on Earth. Beware the lying thieves, they have plans and options to create a false flag alien attack or produce an alien. According to the amount of research money they have spent they should have been capable of presenting us with a human hybred in 1955. They got used to lying to us and we believe them, now put the technology on the table we won't believe you no matter what you say. That's how much credibility they have left.

Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #97 on: June 28, 2008, 11:55:02 AM »
I'm going to get you ready for it because it's going to happen. The Chinese are aware of the situation now. They need both elbow room and farm land. No matter what deal the NWO thinks they made the Chinese are going the throw the proceeds back in their faces and get what they need. 2 to 3 months from now tops. The NWO never got the great kings in place China never marched East, the prophecy the NWO was pushing to happen didn't. You can quit feeling the end times gloom. The Chinese are looking West now and they are going to do what they have to do, what ever it takes.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2008, 12:19:35 PM by raburgeson »

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #98 on: June 28, 2008, 02:41:07 PM »
@Koen1,

I would like to address some of you comments about Mars and color. In the beginning of the NASA Mars rovers mission  NASA had computed that the solar panels on the rovers would be gradually covered with dust and loose power. Further,  NASA always have claimed that Mars was a "bone dry" and dusty RED planet. Then the European came along and started to send back pictures and radar data from Mars. (Mars Express satellite.) More on this later.

Now take the camera on the rovers. The panoramic camera consists of a (Pancam uses 1024?2048 pixel Mitel CCD array 1024x1024 is used for imaging.) detector where each light sensitive pixel is much bigger than on an average Earth camera so that the camera can be light sensitive. In from of the camera is a rotor with many color (Each filter wheel has eight positions, allowing multi spectral sky imaging and surface mineralogical studies in the 400-1100 nm wavelength region. The left wheel contains one clear empty position.) filters, including several infrared filter. But three of them is Red, Blue and Green. The Red, Blue and Green filter is 100% the same as if you buy filters here on Earth for black/white photographing to color images. (You take three pictures and combine them to color later on.) So if you use those three filters you get a reasonable good color image.

But that is not the whole story. The rovers is on Mars and that is an awfully long way from here. The rovers has UHF and  VHF transmitters and you can not put in very strong transmitters because the rovers run on solar energy. To save energy the transmitters has to be used as little as possible. So to be able to send the images (and other data) to Earth they use image compression. (Image compression using a JPL-developed wavelet compression algorithm called ICER.) The modes for the compression is commanded from Earth. The compression ranges from almost no loss to very lossy compression. But still the images (after decompression and computing to color) looks pretty good. The color information is OK and if they use the infrared filters the science data is very good.

Now to the "Raw" data that we see on the Internet. The images is compressed once more to save space on the NASA servers, and this time with JPG compression. NOW the images looks very bad. There is so much compression artifacts that is is almost impossible to resize the images.

Now back to the "bone dry" and dusty RED planet. The rovers solar panels has NOT accumulated the amount of dust over time as predicted by NASA. So what did the do? NASA "invented" an explanation that the solar panels cleaned them self each night! Maybe by wind. No other explanation was put forth. I think is more "down to earth" to say that the amount of dust in the atmosphere is NOT as high as NASA claimed.

So now we had the very RED images of the ground and sky. Then the Mars Express satellite toke this (attached 1 craterice.gif) image and released it on the net. This "forced" NASA to "relax" a bit on the redness and they released this (attached 2 marsbluesky.jpg) image. Now the sky on Mars is suddenly blue. Why did NASA do this? They did it because of the following reason. The only way the ice in the crater can be blue is if the atmosphere on Mars is different from CO2. The ONLY gas that can color the ice blue is Oxygen. We still has the same lightning source both on Mars and Earth, the Sun. So now we have a planet that has a blue sky. Is there water on Mars? Radar data from Mars Express says yes. There is a lot of water on Mars under the ground and also in craters. The North and South poles also have a lot of ice. It seems that the planet Mars is NOT so "bone dry" and dusty after all.

Now I like to address the possibility of NASA using paintbrush (or computer aided equivalences) on images. Can I find any examples of images that are manipulated? Yes in fact I can. In this image (attached 3 marsembossedcolorskyline.jpg) I can clearly see that NASA (or ?) has removed the sky and replaced it with a uniform ugly pink. You can tell because the noise is missing in the sky part of the image. Why they do this is a mystery to me.

So, now we know. The sky on Mars is blue. There is water (ice) on Mars. There is wind on Mars. There is probably also vegetation on Mars. The only way ice can be blue in a photograph is by sun light filtering through oxygen atoms in the atmosphere. Can there be higher lifeforms on Mars?

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #99 on: June 28, 2008, 03:13:28 PM »
Thanks Groundloop!
That is a very nice reply.
Great to have your input. :)

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« Reply #100 on: June 28, 2008, 05:56:36 PM »
OK then explain on the picture pia07855-1600-1200.jpg[1:2](background) how they screwed up and left the key for the code that's embeded on the NASA logo and more code instruction www.jpl.nasa.gov around and through the print. This is the code we need cracked on husbandhill_spirit_big.jpg and we have no key for it.

Take it to 1600 times to really view it clearly. I would imagine if you generate the code and invert the colors and turn down the transparency correctly you remove the damage caused in the background by just adding it as a layer.

By the way husband hill is getting very rare on the net.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #101 on: June 28, 2008, 06:12:30 PM »
@raburgeson,

Can you give a direct link to the image in question? Also can you explain a little what you mean by "code"?
Can you also explain what you mean with: "and we have no key for it"?

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Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #102 on: June 29, 2008, 01:26:41 AM »
* Prior written approval must be obtained to use the NASA insignia logo (the blue "meatball" insignia),
the NASA logotype (the red "worm" logo) and the NASA seal. These images may not be used by persons who are not NASA employees or on products (including Web pages) that are not NASA sponsored. In addition, no image may be used to explicitly or implicitly suggest endorsement by NASA, JPL or Caltech of commercial goods or services. Requests to use NASA logos may be directed to Bert Ulrich, Public Services Division, NASA Headquarters, Code POS, Washington, DC 20546, telephone (202) 358-1713, fax (202) 358-4331, email

I see no mention of the address being in the statement of copyright so I will post a crop. If you would like to see the font without the code resize the image to 400X? what ever it comes out to. The code in the picture rips up the buildings the same way it rips the font. The logo itself is copyrighted however there are many pictures released by NASA that have it, even some panoramas. Now I'm going to type this slower.

They generate a code that positions pixels on a background. They layer the picture on top with the transparency low enough that the generated background shows through and changes the final out put, in this case the picture. This is why the buildings look garbled, otherwise they would look like a perfect little lego town.

I will double post and change the image size of the font for you, here. zoom this up 600% and you can see it.

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« Reply #103 on: June 29, 2008, 01:32:32 AM »
I increased the size of the font image to 400. There is a definite difference in the output. If the images were clear towns and cities would have been found years ago.

Unfortunately changing the image size of the city didn't help it, wait I will go try doing that on city crops again. The data is placed forward, it's all I have and enough. I'm not inventing photos so I will sit back and wait. Things will happen, I asked the guys at request a crack to do this. I think they will look at it for me. They say NASA codes are hard to break but, I think the guys there are equal to anything they come across. By all means zoom to 600% on this one too, I roughly changed the size to 200% and at 600% view it's much larger and still it is much clearer. It should be more pixelated at a larger size. There is code here and there is code in every picture they release, falsified data.

The code can be generated by up to a 256 bit machine or higher and the out put in *.jpg can be viewable in a 32 bit machine. I'm what they would call pretty lame, I try but, I'm never going to be a good hacker. My best guestimate is this one was generated at 128 bits, out of my league completely.
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« Reply #104 on: June 29, 2008, 06:13:50 AM »
I went and hunted, I've been on thousands of sites and have thousands of pictures. It won't help with husband hill but get it here. I haven't been able to figure out where I got it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/125763784/pia05104-1280-1024.jpg.html

This is a color picture, color brings new code problems like 128 bits times the number of colors in the code. Husband hill is a gray scale and that means probably 16 colors from black to white in the code.
That's much simpler but there is no starting point the key is missing. I hope you all are starting to realize what this code does and how much it can hide. The eye can be confused with all those pixels, just like all those black shadows added to the black airbrushes. You see enough of them they look natural and blend in. Remember the man with the fork truck with the sun at his back. None of these pictures were taken with the sun into the camera except sun set pictures and so on where they do it on purpose. They did hire a good photographer. You should see no shadows in the foreground at all on these photos. I can show you shadows drawn clear around a rock. 360 degree shadows just don't really exist. If you study the refections from all the pictures a large rock is kind of rare. In the reflection no large rocks behind, in the front giant rocks everywhere. What do you find at 700 zoom in these big rocks? A code pixeled out building.

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Pop can 3226,2434
different pop bottle 1872,3025  (this one has no air brush line that would confuse you in it, it has friends.) There is a whole dump just above it.
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