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Author Topic: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com  (Read 49350 times)

Offline neptune

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2011, 02:51:11 PM »
@ Woopy .Thanks for the info re RPM .That , to me is very reassuring . However we have to realise that lower RPM = lower frequency =Larger values of L and C . In my mind there can be no doubt that the magnet is diametrically magnetised , because this is shown in two separate diagrams by Prof Turtur . Why would you therefore be in any doubt ? Is the magnet shown in your photograph diametrically magnetised ?I have already emailed the prof with this question and as soon as he replies I will post his answer .
          These days I can not do much in the way of a build due to health issues . I keep getting a few ideas though ,and sooner or later I might say something which will help someone .A cheap way round the magnet problem would be to embed two cubic neo magnets in a wheel cast from epoxy resin . Possible issues would be , magnets would try to escape at very high RPM . Further into development it might be possible to have multiple magnets/poles ,leading to higher frequencies at lower RPM .   I believe higher frequencies = greater output . 

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #76 on: February 18, 2011, 09:45:01 PM »
For anyone contemplating a build ,as we have discussed earlier , there is the problem of the coil and the shaft needing to occupy the same space . Earlier I showed how to overcome this using a short shaft . However for those who wish to use a longer shaft running through the coil here is a suggestion . Google  Bedini-Cole window motor ". I You should easily find pictures and diagrams that show the shaft arrangement , which can be adapted for the current device .

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #77 on: February 21, 2011, 01:37:29 AM »
Hi All,

I've modified the Octave code with help from Haithar although I'm still getting strange readings. This formula is very touchy because it calculates off itself each proceeding value in a 10000row*6column matrix. One small value change creates a cascading amplified effect of any error. I've attached the latest code for those who want to try it. If you see any errors or fixes let me know.

@Neptune,

Sorry to hear of your health. Your input is greatly appreciated you never know what phrase will spark a great idea. You are right in the simulation increasing the 100rpm speed to 200 greatly increases the output.

@Laurent,

I'm pretty sure the magnet is diametric. If you place a diametric magnet on a strip of metal it should have resistance when you try to roll it from one pole to another. If it's not diametric N/S on the top/bottom it should roll with little resistance on the same strip.

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #77 on: February 21, 2011, 01:37:29 AM »
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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #78 on: February 21, 2011, 08:03:04 PM »
@DreamThinkBuild .Thanks for the kind words .My big problem is I have gone blind in one eye ,and the other one has a cateract . But they say that in the land of the blind , the one eyed man is king,so no worries .
          I took another look at a bike dynamo today . It is years since I stripped one down . The magnet used to be a steel cylinder , but later ones are a ferrite type material , and possibly by now , neodymium . At the top of the device is a "neck" about 2inches long and a half inch in diameter .This contains the shaft and bearings . If you removed everything except the magnet , shaft and bearings you would have the basis of a small device , but the outside diameter of the coil would be limited to about 4 inches .
, or it would cover the pulley . I cant help thinking you could use thedynamo [alternator ]  just as it is and connect a suitable cap across it . These dynamos are very inexpensive[$10 ?] to buy .The big problem is to determine the resonant frequency of the resultant parallel tuned circuit .Does anyone have a circuit for a simple LC oscillator circuit without a coil tap that will work at about 100Hz?

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #79 on: February 22, 2011, 09:35:32 PM »
I wrote you a personal message neptune, you can test my C++ version with easy user interface for Turturs algorithm, it's not yet ready for public but you can use it without any problems.

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #80 on: February 23, 2011, 07:49:29 PM »
@Haithar .Many thanks for that I will certainly give it a try . A couple of other thoughts while I am here . My electronic knowledge such as it is , was the result of being a Radio Amateur back in the 1980s . I used to love playing with home made circuits , especially RF oscillators and tuned circuits . I used a grid dip oscillator to determine the frequency of tuned circuits , but of course , that was at much higher frequencies than we are dealing with here . Another way was to make the circuit oscillate , and listen to it on a radio receiver . Here we are talking about low audio frequencies . I mentioned in an earlier post the possibility of listening to the oscillations using a coupling coil and headphones . Here in the UK the frequency of the electric supply is 50 Hz ,and probably in most of Europe .So if you listen to the mains , 100Hz is a note exactly one octave higher .Also , frequency counters are very cheap now , and even some multimeters have a frequency counter working up to 20 Mhz,

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #81 on: February 24, 2011, 05:24:59 AM »
That's a rotary lifter.
Don't you see the sharp tips at the edges of the can?
It's just propelled by ion wind man.

Turtur also did the same experiment in the vacuum, using oil instead of water... doesn't this exclude the "ion wind" explanation?

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #82 on: February 24, 2011, 05:31:57 AM »
yes you can modify the RPM  of the magnet "at will " in the program.
So i did for my coil simulation to get 77 watt output. I spin the magnet at 3000 rpm and it goes (see pix in red )

I don't think you can choose actual magnet RPM. That's only the initial constant velocity given to the magnet.
For instance, you can see that by applying 6,000 RPM initially, it then goes up to 10,000 RPM (look in the output .dat file, in the 5th column you can see rad/s).
Please let me know if this doesn't make sense and I'm completely wrong.

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #83 on: February 24, 2011, 05:35:18 AM »
6 Will varying the resistance of the load cause detuning and stop the machine .

I don't think so, since the device should be load-following, eg: adjust itself to the load by varying its own resonant frequency... but let's see what Dr. Turtur has to say about this.

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #83 on: February 24, 2011, 05:35:18 AM »
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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #84 on: February 24, 2011, 12:59:01 PM »
I don't think you can choose actual magnet RPM. That's only the initial constant velocity given to the magnet.
For instance, you can see that by applying 6,000 RPM initially, it then goes up to 10,000 RPM (look in the output .dat file, in the 5th column you can see rad/s).
Please let me know if this doesn't make sense and I'm completely wrong.
Yes that's how i understood it too.
You bring the magnet up to the initial rpm you determined in the software and then flick a switch and let the thing run.

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #85 on: February 25, 2011, 07:26:28 PM »
Re bicycle dynamos . On stripping a modern bike dynamo [which I picked up on the road!] I was disappointed to find that the magnet has more than 2 poles , and so is not suitable for use in this experiment . You can test this without stripping by simply counting the cogs in the cogging effect . Oh well , back to the drawing board .

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #86 on: March 04, 2011, 02:48:47 PM »
I have uploaded my software for everyone to use and try things out: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10467

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #87 on: March 06, 2011, 05:56:46 PM »
I recently received an email from Prof Turtur . He answered some of my questions . He confirms the shape of the coil as a disc shape , small height large diameter . He recommends a neo magnet because of its high field strength . He says it can be as small as 8cms diameter . He has concerns however about it flying apart at the necessary speed of 50 ,000 to100,000 RPM . He talks about plastic encapsulation .He says the only way to start it is with a starter motor at 30- to 50 ,000 RPM , and suggests an overrun clutch  , so when the device starts due to correct tuning , it will accelerate . Total capacitance needs to be 10 to 100 microfarads , capable of being varied . { could be a combination of fixed and variable caps ] Cap needs to withstand 1- to2,000 volts . Hope this helps .

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #88 on: March 07, 2011, 09:22:45 AM »
I recently received an email from Prof Turtur . He answered some of my questions . He confirms the shape of the coil as a disc shape , small height large diameter . He recommends a neo magnet because of its high field strength . He says it can be as small as 8cms diameter . He has concerns however about it flying apart at the necessary speed of 50 ,000 to100,000 RPM . He talks about plastic encapsulation .He says the only way to start it is with a starter motor at 30- to 50 ,000 RPM , and suggests an overrun clutch  , so when the device starts due to correct tuning , it will accelerate . Total capacitance needs to be 10 to 100 microfarads , capable of being varied . { could be a combination of fixed and variable caps ] Cap needs to withstand 1- to2,000 volts . Hope this helps .

Did he mention the inductance of the coil?

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Re: 1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com
« Reply #89 on: March 07, 2011, 03:27:28 PM »
@Super God. He does not state the inductance of the coil .However , the tuned circuit needs to resonate at 30,000 RPM = 500 cycles/sec [Hz]. coil inductance depends on capacitance . I would choose a capictance near the upper limit of what he says , as this then =less inductance =less wire=less parasitic resistance =higher Q factor .Hope this helps .

 

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