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Author Topic: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?  (Read 20768 times)

Offline exnihiloest

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 08:48:03 AM »
The topic is the question. Please weigh in on this, any comments would be appreciated.
Bill

A self looping SMOT is proof of OU only if it works as an isolated system. The fact that there is neither external varying fields nor temperature gradient (in space or time) must be checked.


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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 08:48:03 AM »

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2011, 11:03:19 PM »
So are you saying that a working smot would be a game changer and the possible precursor to a working magnetic motor?

I cannot see mechanically how an operating smot runner would not allow
a yoke type device to be connected from it to a central point - that's
my definition of a motor. Once something was working it would be easy
to optimise to higher power densities and build one as one goes.

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2011, 11:17:04 PM »
"I am trying to figure out if it is a self looped SMOT... just like the topic states"

I completely appreciate what you are saying. As for trying to determine if it self loops it must start, run, and then go past its "start" point multiple times. Without revealing what you have does it do this?

Here's the thing it is possible to get a machine that operates more than
one turn what one would call probablistical. Which means it would *not*
run past a given point with sufficient configuration energy to *always*
come back around every time, for example something with a bouncing
weight that had only a random probability of being in a certain
configuration. Whether a machine stops now and then and had to be
restarted would depend on how much restart energy is required. Even
computer circitry doesn't work every time - but with a probability is small
enough to ignore the number of times when it does fail. The key is to
cut the friction down and improve the device's operating margins.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2011, 11:17:04 PM »
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Offline billmehess

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2011, 02:07:10 AM »
I have added a poll to the top of page 2
Bill

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2011, 02:11:29 AM »
The significance of a closed loop smot is well beyond the unquestionable marketing success.

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2011, 02:11:29 AM »
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Offline XS-NRG

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2011, 05:04:16 AM »
Can you guarantee that?
Pherhaps then we both could be rich... :)

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2011, 05:19:23 AM »
Like I said, self-sustaining smot will bring about more important let alone interesting things than you and I becoming rich.

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2011, 05:19:23 AM »
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Offline XS-NRG

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2011, 05:28:13 AM »
Like what?

And you didn't answer the question...

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2011, 05:43:18 AM »
Study my earlier postings if you need answers to your questions.

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2011, 05:43:18 AM »
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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2011, 08:21:08 AM »
before you judge what I am about to say, hear this .......... I would LOVE for a closed loop smot to exist.... but after experimenting and countless hours researching, I don't think it can be done...

The only way I can in-vision a smot device to work is this..... a huge long rail that curves back to the starting position, along the rail is coils picking up charge as the ball travels down the rail and back up, then when it reaches the starting position the energy collected powers a solenoid to push the ball back to the starting position................

in my mind, its impossible for this to NOT work.... since you can indefinite rail length... hence indefinite coil pick ups..... may be impractical... i.e a kilometer of track JUST to get enough power to power the solenoid ...... heh.... would be cool though, just to see it be self sustaining haha....

ALL THAT SAID............

Asking the question (topic - "Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?") is like asking "If I was flying, would that be proof that I could fly?"

Answer... of course! you see the stupidity of the topic question now?

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Offline Lakes

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2011, 11:16:26 AM »
Can you guarantee that?
Pherhaps then we both could be rich... :)
Market it as a "Perpetual Motion" toy, kinda like those marble run thingies...  ::

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2011, 11:16:26 AM »
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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2011, 02:23:11 PM »
Market it as a "Perpetual Motion" toy, kinda like those marble run thingies...  ::

It already is that.
And it's not going to make me rich nor will it provide any free energy other then turning itself.
So you are wrong.

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2011, 04:02:25 PM »
well then being you are CLOSED minded then piss it away in a Closet . Grow old and die with nothing . Simple .You dont have anything anyone one else does then . Right ? Otherwise anyone with 1/1000th of brain Knows already it's a no brain er and a multimillion dollar concept of proof Model . I have a Friend in Turkey ready to buy the right  and manufacture Millions for any Pm device to export so i on the otherhand i know different and once your beaten to the Draw you will have nothing once someone else secures a REAL proved Smot patent and manufacturing Contract.


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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2011, 05:12:58 PM »
XS ,   question... 
Can you easily replicate your own work or do you have just a one of a kind?  Are the parts expensive or easy to obtain?   If not too expensive and easy to replicate,  you could make and sell them yourself.   Patent pending is a good idea..... If some big company would start making them you could negotiate patent royalties.   
I believe the members of this forum would like to understand your invention and see if it can be replicated, thus proven to work.    Peer review of any idea is needed to generate interest as well as make improvements.   The suggestions to how to modify your device to get to the 1 watt would be like having a free development team working for you.   
My suggestion is to patent pend your idea (self patent thru internet) then show the community a video and start explaining or getting help explaining how the device is working.   Get some replications going to prove it is not a fake.   Then things will fall into place for you. 

Bill   

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2011, 06:10:25 PM »
XS ,   question... 
Can you easily replicate your own work or do you have just a one of a kind?  Are the parts expensive or easy to obtain?   If not too expensive and easy to replicate,  you could make and sell them yourself.   Patent pending is a good idea..... If some big company would start making them you could negotiate patent royalties.   
I believe the members of this forum would like to understand your invention and see if it can be replicated, thus proven to work.    Peer review of any idea is needed to generate interest as well as make improvements.   The suggestions to how to modify your device to get to the 1 watt would be like having a free development team working for you.   
My suggestion is to patent pend your idea (self patent thru internet) then show the community a video and start explaining or getting help explaining how the device is working.   Get some replications going to prove it is not a fake. 
Bill


It is very easy to replicate the device.
If i patent the device i cannot get to the money from the 1 Watt contest  :-\
And i don't have money to prosecute people who want to why does nobody understand these things?


 Then things will fall into place for you. 


Why do you say that?

All of you seem to think having a working device means you won't have any problems and all the money and things you want but this is NOT the case.
And besides why should i even continue with this since nobody believes it anyway.

 

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