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Author Topic: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?  (Read 20934 times)

Offline billmehess

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Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« on: January 30, 2011, 08:55:12 PM »
The topic is the question. Please weigh in on this, any comments would be appreciated.
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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2011, 09:29:14 PM »
Definitely. Why then it hasn't been shown yet? Because the excess energy is small and, worse yer, it is produced in a way not conducive to be harnessed to make a self-sustaining device. Under proper conditions, however, not the substandard conditions almost everybody here is working under, with very precise fine-tuning and machining it can be achieved. Notice, even a magnetic propulsor let alone the smot itself needs quite a bit of fine-tuning in order to work. Unless proper conditions are ensured, by convincing Academia of the viability of this (private money can never compete with the infrastructure controlled by Academia) we may try to build a self-sustaining smot for another hundred years and fail.

Aslo, let's not forget -- smot itself and the magnetic propulsor itself are proof that CoE can be violated but by only producing portions of excess energy. Society at large, however, due to the deceitful nature of science nowadays is pushed to believe that violation of CoE can only be demonstrated by continuous production of excess energy and we have to take note of that.

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2011, 09:55:53 PM »
Would a looped SMOT be conclusive proof of overunity energy?

Of overunity magnetic energy; Yes definitely! It's the simplest
kind of pure magnetic motor. If I could build one I *might* decide
I could safely cancel my overunity.com account ie; energy game
over.

It must use neodymium magnets, as other kinds can potentially
discharge and supply energy.

The energy output of a looped smot would be very small and it
might be a Maxwell Demon, something converting environmental
heat energy into magnetic domain field recharge.

You may want the runner also to be a neodymium magnet too
because neo's supposedly inhibit external field penetration from
inside the magnet's boundaries so they won't change gross magnetic
characteristics over time with use, like a steel sphere or something
else might.

I don't consider that Finsrude Machine one BTW. I've read it
stops sometimes.

You got one?

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2011, 09:55:53 PM »
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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2011, 10:25:22 PM »
I got one but i'm not sure it's a SMOT  :)

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2011, 11:32:28 PM »
So are you saying that a working smot would be a game changer and the possible precursor to a working magnetic motor?

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2011, 11:32:28 PM »
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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2011, 11:36:14 PM »
I have a working magnet motor but i do not know if it fit's the category "SMOT"  :)
It certainly looks like a SMOT turned into a circle...
Also i do not think it's a game changer cos i asked Stefan about the prize and he said i cannot enter the contest because mine has got no 1Watt Power output  :-\ and if i try to load it i'm sure it will stop.

Offline billmehess

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 12:17:31 AM »
I have a working magnet motor but i do not know if it fit's the category "SMOT"  :)
It certainly looks like a SMOT turned into a circle...
Also i do not think it's a game changer cos i asked Stefan about the prize and he said i cannot enter the contest because mine has got no 1Watt Power output  :-\ and if i try to load it i'm sure it will stop.
I would suggest you start a new topic regarding your motor. I am sure the group would be interested in your work.

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
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Offline XS-NRG

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 12:32:58 AM »
And just why would i want to do that?  :-\
I can't go for the money so then i have to just give it away  ??? my life work..
I am trying to figure out if it is a self looped SMOT... just like the topic states.
And i responded like you said:


 any comments would be appreciated.

Bill

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2011, 12:44:38 AM »
"I am trying to figure out if it is a self looped SMOT... just like the topic states"

I completely appreciate what you are saying. As for trying to determine if it self loops it must start, run, and then go past its "start" point multiple times. Without revealing what you have does it do this?

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2011, 12:50:29 AM »
If you mean that it is self-running then the answer is yes it does that.
Now i need to find a way to make it put out XS-NRG.
And it is like a SMOT only it's "track" is different.

Offline billmehess

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2011, 12:54:53 AM »
To XS-NRG

If you live in the US for $100.00 you can secure a Provisional Patent. This gives you patent protection for one full year and allows you to say that your invention is "Patent Pending".
I wish you the best!
Bill

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2011, 12:54:53 AM »
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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 01:09:37 AM »
Why do you think i need a patent?

Would you not like to know how it exactly self runs?
I can tell you so you can think about it..

It only self runs because there is no bemf or cemf fighting back to stop it.
This is why it works but it is also a big problem because when i introduce a coil and load it the bemf walks in destroying the party...
This is the exact reason i cannot enter the 1 Watt contest  :-\

Also i told you my track was different.
It is different in the way that the magnet gets accellerated by Gravity big time.
This is needed to give it enough kinetic energy to go over it's starting poynt.

 :)

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 03:52:29 AM »
Why do you think i need a patent?

Would you not like to know how it exactly self runs?
I can tell you so you can think about it..


 :)
Well if i invested my Life in something everyone wants regardless if it wont win the "ou prize" i would be a bit smarter and get that patent because you have made the supposed impossible billion dollar Perpetual motion toy that would  sell thru edmund scientific company or many disturbitors and be set for your life and your sons and daughters lives also . One persons trash is anothers treasure so to speak.

Gadget   

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2011, 05:38:28 AM »
Then you also need to have the money to prosecute any copycats and there will be many!!
A patent is useless...

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Re: Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2011, 05:46:32 AM »
Then you also need to have the money to prosecute any copycats and there will be many!!
A patent is useless...
it didnt hurt ronco or dyson or microsoft !only a fool would duplicate and try to sell a patented device .You are correct as many experimenters would try to duplicate a device for their own enjoyment after buying one  but this is a measly 10 thousand at the most out of what 30 million prospective buyers .I also have a self levitating perpetual motion toy no batteries. you spin it and its held up with magnets  and pivits on a piece of glass in the front(bearingless) . I added magnets to it and around it for years playing  until i got it to keep spinning for days rather than an hour . it stops eventually but i think its due to earth rotation and will finally quit but i improved it .  anyways just answering your question . take care marco .

Albert
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