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Offline broli

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2011, 09:16:57 AM »
XS-NRG go take your device and shove it up your ass, we don't need it and we don't want you and your lousy piece of shit attitude. I just about had it with trolls/fools/dickheads like you. Either contribute or GET THE FUCK OUT!

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Re: Break through!
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Offline exnihiloest

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2011, 09:44:35 AM »
Why am i a nut?
...

You give yourself the answer:

I do not have a single photo nor a single video yet i have a working free energy device on my desk....
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Only a nut can believe that one will take his word for it.



Offline Low-Q

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2011, 10:47:17 AM »
The development of this thread prooves that a claim that says "Break through" without any hard facts, working devices etc. are present from the first post, ends up in discussion whether the "break through" ar for real or not, wheter there are scientific proofs of a working model or not. - all this ends up in arguing!

I would strongly recommend anyone who finds the holy grail, don't tell anyone before they have actually confirmd that it IS the holy grail.

A claim without proof are not worth a cent.

That said, I know I'm not perfect, but please let us turn this discussion into something ABOUT the subject. If you haven't anything to say other than arguing, do that via PM - NOT HERE. We have no interest in reading a thread filled with hate.

Vidar

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2011, 10:47:17 AM »
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Offline XS-NRG

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #63 on: February 02, 2011, 01:48:43 PM »
Either contribute or GET THE FUCK OUT!

Okay i'll go with the last one.

Can you please submit plans and schematics, theory of operation for replication?

You may BUY them.
OOOO no we don't want that...it has got to be FREE.
We are not going to PAY for FREE Energy.

Offline neptune

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2011, 03:31:26 PM »
@XS-NRG. That's fair enough . Where are these plans available , and what is the cost please  ? No one can be expected to buy a pig in a poke , so to speak , So details of build costs , performance of the present model , and scaleability would be reasonable things to ask . Over to you , old chap .

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« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2011, 03:31:26 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2011, 03:50:51 PM »
XS,
I'd be cranky too,Take the stupid thing off your desk!
Looking at it every day and not being able to benefit some how is obviously not good for your Head.

They say misery loves company?

SOooo......... your spreadin the love HUH?

So far so good !

"Les Miserables" 

This OU stuff always makes you so Happy HUH?

Thats why we're Open Source here,funny thing a while back you started a thread ,
and I remember you trying to share with us ,seems to me you really do have the "HEART",
you just get very angry, very easy ?
I don't know ??but I have seen your nice side
 and I think It piss's you off that your Peers don't appreciate your efforts !

Hope you get it figured out !
Chet

Offline Mark69

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2011, 04:04:58 PM »
@Butch, I am no machinist, nor expert, but you expect everyone to believe you have something with "drawings" and computer simulations.  Not everything works like it is supposed to on the drawing board and some things work that are not supposed to.  So if you don't build it, then you never really know if it works or not.  If I had the knowledge your team did and thought I had something I knew would run, why wouldn't I build it?  If it did work, then you would win the Nobel Peace Prize (aka get a million dollars, tax free), and be one of the most famous people on the planet that "saved the world" from fossil fuels.  You are gonna tell me you don't want that?  But you would just rather think everything up, show that it works in a simulation then let someone else get all the glory, because you don't want to or "can't afford" to build just one prototype to prove your theory?  You would have tons of investors lining up around your door to get this into production, even if you asked for donations from here.  I donated to the Australian guy when he asked for donations to build his device that "was supposed" to work.  When it didn't, I didn't ask for the money back either.  So don't attack me.
There are people here that are machinists that might be willing to help you build it, why don't you ask for help instead of retreating?
Mark

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2011, 04:04:58 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2011, 04:26:50 PM »
Mark,
Butch is building this one as we type!
He has Peeps that do that part!

Thanks Butch,
I don't know why some folks take your sharing here so badly.
Please don't think we're all so unappreciative
of your efforts!
Chet

Offline Mark69

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2011, 05:01:00 PM »
@ Chet, I thought Butch was talking about me. LOL 

Sorry Butch, but if you do need some help, let me know what I can do to help.

Mark

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Re: Break through!
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Offline Omnibus

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2011, 05:19:27 PM »
I don't think open source is sharing ideas about how something may work. Open source in my book is to have a really working device and help everybody else with sharing all the details to have it reproduced independently. Ideas have no value in this field, the actual working device does.

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2011, 05:32:47 PM »
Omni
Its a linear thing,First you need an Idea...................

Perhaps a thought?
Then you proceed!
If you resent Butch for his efforts,well Change the channel?
We really don't need thought police!

Chet

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2011, 05:32:47 PM »
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Offline Omnibus

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2011, 06:15:08 PM »
No, of course, I don't resent Butch. All I'm saying is that we should follow the right perspective about open source.

Offline ramset

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2011, 06:37:15 PM »
Omni
Good!
Hopefully we'll get to see what Open Source
Really means someday!

So we can actually get a perspective!

A working device, doing actual work!
Fully disclosed!For all to benefit!
Wouldn't that guy/gal be some kind of hero?

Chet


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Re: Break through!
« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2011, 06:47:13 PM »
He or she would most certainly be.

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Re: Break through!
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2011, 07:03:18 PM »
I don't think open source is sharing ideas about how something may work. Open source in my book is to have a really working device and help everybody else with sharing all the details to have it reproduced independently. Ideas have no value in this field, the actual working device does.
Maybe we can work this out like adults. How about this we agree that there will be two types of open sourcing, Theory Open Sourcing and Working Device Open Sourcing?
The person states at the begining which class his work falls into. If one doesn't like working with theory then he stays off the thread by choice.
Every tree starts with a seed, we need all the ideas we can get.
We also need help in getting the working device verified and to market.
Each of these needs a place to be accepted and grow.
Thanks,
Butch

 

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