Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Tesla Paper

Free Energy Book

Get paid

Donations

Please Donate for the Forum.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.(Admin)

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 522962
  • *Total Topics: 15572
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 5
  • *Guests: 4
  • *Total: 9

Author Topic: Break through!  (Read 45795 times)

Offline XS-NRG

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 446
Re: Break through!
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2011, 02:54:15 PM »
I have one sitting on a bench and working.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Break through!
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2011, 02:54:15 PM »

Offline Omnibus

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5330
Re: Break through!
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2011, 03:22:21 PM »
Of course, you do.

Offline XS-NRG

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 446
Re: Break through!
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2011, 03:24:44 PM »
I do.
That's why i can say that you are wrong.
I have not seen any of your:


 interesting things


Nor did i:


becoming rich.


And nor do i see any:


unquestionable marketing success.


So once again:
 You are wrong.


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Break through!
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2011, 03:24:44 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Omnibus

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5330
Re: Break through!
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2011, 03:25:30 PM »
Yes, of course.

Offline Low-Q

  • without_ads
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2838
Re: Break through!
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2011, 03:27:05 PM »
I really look forward to yet another sleepless night...trying to figure out how it work, and how it doesn't...

Anyway, I think Butch' idea are one of the most genious magnet motor attempts to date. Sure I will try to figure this out - it will take a while I'm afraid - loooong sleepless nights :)

The first thing I imagine, is how the outer "discs" are suppose to escape the magnetic field without spending energy on it. Another one is that those actions taken to rotate must be slightly offset in order to dertermind clockwise or counterclockwise rotation. When this offset are taken care of, the energy spent to slide the discs back and forth, would probably require just the energy required to get some energy out - which means it will probably not work.
The greatest torque would be present at approx 45 degrees offset, but the animation have 0 degree offset, which means it will not be possible to tell which way it will rotate - which in turn means that the present animation will not work in practice (?).

Time will show, so I do hope that Butch want to build this. Shouldn't take much time to do so. As far as the cogging conserns, I do not believe cogging should be a reason for a non-working motor, as cogging should be two equal repulsion and attractions present at two different points in the revolution, which should end up in zero energy loss anyways.

Vidar

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Break through!
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2011, 03:27:05 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline XS-NRG

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 446
Re: Break through!
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2011, 03:32:39 PM »
Yes, of course.

Fool

Why do people think that it will automatically start raining dollars?
There won't be any of that.

Omnibus you must be a very dumb person.

Offline Omnibus

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5330
Re: Break through!
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2011, 03:41:49 PM »
Sure, you have an OU machine. You're not a fool. Only fools don't have one.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Break through!
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2011, 03:41:49 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Mark69

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 277
Re: Break through!
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2011, 04:13:37 PM »
XS, can you show us your machine, possibly in a video or something?  Is it the same as Butch's new design?

Thanks,
Mark

Offline neptune

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1127
Re: Break through!
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2011, 04:15:23 PM »
I used to think that nothing was harder to understand than the mechanics of Free Energy . Boy , how wrong can you be .The mechanics are as nothing compared to trying to understand the psychology of Free Energy. Why cant we keep things simple . Let us say what we mean , and mean what we say .
@xsNRG . If you have working machine , then show it . If you do not have one , why claim that you have?

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Break through!
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2011, 04:15:23 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Butch LaFonte

  • Guest
Re: Break through!
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2011, 06:11:15 PM »
How do you mean "tested"? You have a working model made of real materials, sitting on a bench and working? Is that what you mean by "tested" or you mean that you have modeled it via computer programs and that gives you the sense it might work in real life?
Omnibus,
I will start up loading all past video's of shop testing. There are so many, it will take weeks to get them all up loaded. Yes, I was talking about actual tests of those principles.
Butch

Offline Omnibus

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5330
Re: Break through!
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2011, 06:19:19 PM »
See, I'm not interested at all in demonstrations of tests of principles. We have more than enough of it. Violation of CoE has already been proven categorically. The problem is do you have an actual working pmm? Just one video will do.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Break through!
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2011, 06:19:19 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Butch LaFonte

  • Guest
Re: Break through!
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2011, 08:43:23 PM »
See, I'm not interested at all in demonstrations of tests of principles. We have more than enough of it. Violation of CoE has already been proven categorically. The problem is do you have an actual working pmm? Just one video will do.
A working permanent magnet motor is one that runs it's self and can be put on public display 24 hours a day 7 days a week. We can not do that because we have never had the money to get past the basic theory test stages. We build with shop scrap, old parts, regular shop steel. We put our designs, animations, videos of tests of basic principle with substandard materials and supplies in hopes that someone with money will carry it through the research and development stages to it's full potiental. That has never happened. It's kind of like discovering that a piston will move down a cylinder if a fuel air mixture is exploded in the cylinder, but not having the money to build the working four cycle engine. We can demostrate the operating basics, but the final machine takes money, something we don't have. But we don't let that stop us from trying to get an working principle out to the public to take to production.

Butch LaFonte

  • Guest
Never leave the field? Stay internal, in the same position? Is that the answer?
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2011, 08:46:44 PM »
Look at attached picture, read text at bottom.
Thanks,
Butch

Offline Xaverius

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 266
Re: Break through!
« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2011, 09:05:30 PM »
Stop the Flaming.

Offline Omnibus

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5330
Re: Break through!
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2011, 09:29:07 PM »
A working permanent magnet motor is one that runs it's self and can be put on public display 24 hours a day 7 days a week. We can not do that because we have never had the money to get past the basic theory test stages. We build with shop scrap, old parts, regular shop steel. We put our designs, animations, videos of tests of basic principle with substandard materials and supplies in hopes that someone with money will carry it through the research and development stages to it's full potiental. That has never happened. It's kind of like discovering that a piston will move down a cylinder if a fuel air mixture is exploded in the cylinder, but not having the money to build the working four cycle engine. We can demostrate the operating basics, but the final machine takes money, something we don't have. But we don't let that stop us from trying to get an working principle out to the public to take to production.

If it's a self-starter all you need to show is that the system makes more than one turn on its own. Don't need to have it running day and night.

On the funding part, I fully sympathize but that's the name of the game. It's a revolution and you can't expect to be supported by the forces you wanna overthrow. The only way to win the war is to demonstrate a working perpetuum mobile which unfortunately, you have to fund yourself. Under the current conditions I wouldn't even accept the money even if someone wants to give it to me. Unless there's a very clear stipulation that it is given for pure research and no ROI is ever expected from that research. So, tough. Don't ever claim you've made a breakthrough before you can demonstrate a working OU device and have it replicated by others.

 

OneLink