Since Lawrence's thread is locked and this thread is useless, I'll post it here.

PhysicsProfesser can't seem to understand why the frequency goes up when the voltage goes down in defiance of MileHigh's wrong claim over at OUR. The answer is simple and I gave a description of what is going on in the circuit at a sub-atomic level here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8825.msg271329#msg271329

Why does the frequency go up? Since there is less voltage there is also less current and so that reversal that I describe and the cavitation that results, takes place closer to the inductor and is smaller. Smaller cavitation and closer to the inductor produces smaller waves. That is higher frequency.

You can amuse yourself by watching them try and understand electricity from "effects" here:

Thanks for the encouraging comments.  I'll tell you -- some effects with this Tseung device surprise me.

Milehigh wrote in reply 210:

  I decided to run the Tseung DUT with a power supply -- the output values were much the same as running with a battery.  I had thought several days ago to vary the input voltage to see what would happen, and did this today.  Very exciting response, really.

  Now, MH -- you say that with your equation (approximation, granted) that decreased V_battery will decrease the frequency.  This is the OPPOSITE  to what I observed today when I lowered the voltage from the power supply (PS).   Here are observed data (I feel I need to re-emphasize that experimental data trump theory):

 Input voltage (PS)  Frequency   Input LED  Output LED
   1.40                        64 KHz      Bright          Bright
    0.70                     112 KHz      Dimmer        Bright
   0.52                      177 KHz      Dim             Bright, somewhat dimmer
   0.46                      259 KHz      Almost out.     Bright still, though somewhat dimmer to the eye.  I should like to have a measurement of the lumens...
   0.39     Oscillations die; both LED's out.

Above with "constant voltage" on the PS.  When I tried to limit the current, at about 1.4 volts roughly, the DUT would not oscillate stably (tried it once or twice).

Now, we could talk about the input and output voltages if any are interested  -- and is there a way to post the oscilloscope traces here?  Very interesting! particularly at the end, at 0.46 volts  It really made my day!  and I hope you folks will not tease Lawrence.  This is quite a little device, I think -- very instructive.

OK -- Mile High, you (or your equation) say that the frequency should go DOWN as the voltage goes DOWN -- that is shown to be 100% wrong by the experimental evidence.  Further, the effect is non-linear -- again contrary to your equation.  I'm losing confidence in your equation, and therefore in your "theory."   Explain the empirical results (if you can). 

That said, I think it is useful to bring up an equation as you did even when it is shot down by the data -- love when that happens actually.  Makes it fun.

It is obvious  to me from the LED's that the input power is going down and yet the output power remains sufficient to keep the output LED brightly lit.

   

Funny how when you know what electricity is, you can predict the effects. They don't teach that in college. They teach that electricity is a phenomenon and so it is.

Lately they are figuring out that they need to shorten their leads and use some pretty rigid RF techniques to properly measure the circuit. Eventually once they figure all that out, they will figure out that every bit of the energy created by that extra cavitation is sunk into the inductor and they got nothing for building a tank circuit with a LED attached to it - or what most people call electronics 101.

he is clearly reffering to that thing.
it needs to be cooled.
if you wanna know more read the patent.
i recognise it imediatly.
are we the only ones that studied Tesla?

aint that some neat shit ... 

ooooo  its soo hot its cold bitch !


burry it in the snow ..  throw it in the lake ... 

yawn

i got hundreds more toys ...

they some scary shit !

and i own them all !

osiris


guess what i got a list of demands ...   written on the palms of my hands ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDMtaIcrfQ0&ob=av3el

Please calm down and what are you talking about ?

I labeled the cans  1 2 3 for the 3 phase power being produced.

Note the glass table. That is so nobody can claim here are hidden wires. This tells you that is where the power amplification is happening.

Then we follow the wires to the power conditioning panel to smooth out the power and we see the three corresponding meters.

So the only part that matters is what is in the three cans and why does it need a spark gap? The question was answered and now you just need to take Meyer's magnetic O1 producing electrolyzer and replicate something along those lines.

That 555 time and decade counter and 10 coil magnetic atom sorter should work just fine to collect some O1 in a plastic bag. Experiment away and you will figure it out.

i can't say it enough so here goes:

A 555 and a Decade Counter SUCK.
There is always a dead time in between and the 555 actually charges a cap just to discharge it to ground!! The destruction of usable electricity into heat NOT good if you are looking for OU..

Use a microcontroller.

By the way it isn't 3 Phase it's just 3 pulses one after the other.
3 Phase is something else:

Shit! I posted that in the wrong thread. You are both right and wrong.

3 phase does not happen on the same wire - I am not wrong. Count the wires going to the gray cabinet. The silver gas transformer are either wired delta or wye and from there to the gray cabinet which I probably described as a power conditioner. You can see a bunch of caps in there and that is where it gets cleaned up from the spark gap - my guess anyway based on the facts that can be observed.

The 555 is not part of any OU circuit. Just the circuit that sorts out the mag gas.

The dead time is irrelevant since the decade counter drives the transistors which drive the coils in sequence. Decade counter does not have dead time.

Thanks for the suggestion though. I am just about to learn microcontrollers. I'm old school. I still make my own 555's from discrete components. _ OK , that was lie, 

Hey Stephan,

Hope you are feeling better.

   Um... So... Like... If it isn't too much trouble... and since Grumpy won't be needing all those wonderful overunity golden stars... Do you suppose it would be O.K. if TheBuzz could have his star back that was wrongfully stolen from him a year ago by that pig dog Ramset? It would be a shame to just throw them out. TheBuzz promises to be good and he kept his deal by creating an experiment for Ramset but then Ramset stabbed Saint Buzz in the back - like a Weasel!

TheBuzz was the one that figured out Meyer's "composite wire", impedance matching, heterodying RF circuit and a bunch of other stuff. Grumpy won't miss those stars and Ramset would want you to do it. Please? Saint Buzz is cold because he doesn't have enough stars in the heavens.

I will create a nice vacuum field experiment that can't be explained with classic EM if that would help, which would cost me hundreds of dollars BTW. Was going to do it anyway but hey, I... I mean... Yeah...  TheBuzz should get something for the time and expense.

Please write me a personal email and explain it,
I don´t know, what you mean.

I deleted all the offtopic flame messages now in this thread and
please can we come back to a normal discussion.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan. (admin)

Sorry,
but it was offtopic.

Please stay ontopic.

these are the pale deaths
which men miscall their lives:
for all the scents of green things growing,
each breath is but an exhalation of the grave.
bodies jerk like puppet corpses,
and hell walks laughing.

Willbyinnebrated's poem was taken as a veiled death threat and deleted as it should be. I am on his blocked sender list and so he flames/threatens me in this thread.

Deleting inflaming posts is part of the solution, but it's only a "bandaid". Deleting the flamer is the proper solution.

quarktoo/TheBuzz seems to be behaving himself somewhat, but look in the LT thread and you'll find ample justification to delete him. It's only a matter of time before he slips back to his normal abusive modus operandi. How about some consistency Stefan?

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POYNT99, you have been asked by several members including me several times to stop following me around and flaming me. You took many of the good members to your site but that is not enough for you. You now try and get me banned for disclosing how magnetic oxygen generators work.

Today I disclosed how to measure and store a vacuum field. What did you two intel gathering spooks do today? Death threat and calling for my ban?

Who you are and your intent is clear by your actions. Cease and desist now. If Hartman is truly running a free energy web site, you two are gone.