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Title: MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat
Post by: Feb2006 on January 01, 2011, 06:00:39 PM
"Early Monothermal working prototype, production
date 17 August 1995. Test units worked uninterrupted for more than a decade, powering LCD clocks and a tabletop fan in a room-temperature environment."


http://monothermal.com/monothermal.html (http://monothermal.com/monothermal.html)

http://monothermal.com/inventor_patents/patents.html (http://monothermal.com/inventor_patents/patents.html)
Title: Re: MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat
Post by: neptune on January 02, 2011, 08:01:44 PM
This looks like an interesting technology . It would be interesting to know how it compares to say a peltier module on a cost/output basis . Probably not a do it yourself job in the form shown , as Phosphorus is involved .
Title: Re: MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat
Post by: void109 on January 03, 2011, 12:00:05 AM
Wouldn't a device that generated power from ambient thermal temperature classify as an over unity device?  Is there any evidence anywhere that this functions as claimed?
Title: Re: MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat
Post by: shylo on January 03, 2011, 02:38:52 AM
Hi all ...nice find but I think it is nothing more than two dissimilar metals. Although the construction is such that it will last a very long time ,but with very limited output.Seems to be alot of this type of technology around just need to find a way to amplify the output.I've been working on this for about 5 months now voltage is no problem, amperage is coming up slowly........just got to keep trying .....shylo
Title: Re: MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat
Post by: nul-points on January 03, 2011, 10:11:40 AM
hi v109

Wouldn't a device that generated power from ambient thermal temperature classify as an over unity device?

yes, in the same sense that solar & wind power generation of electricity is OU


Is there any evidence anywhere that this functions as claimed?

there's a liittle evidence of the thermal relationship shown in a table in the patents


Stefan started a thread about a different thermal electricity convertor cell (but not much new detail over the patent):

  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=885.0


in an unconnected experiment, i've recently had similar success with a DIY cell using much simpler parts (basically dissimilar metal, diluted honey, cotton sheet, paper sheet & child's starch glue)

my cell has powered an LED flasher now for several weeks (since 8th Dec) and the on-load terminal voltage has gradually increased over this time from it's initial value of 1.6V to 1.9V (whilst also responding to ambient temperature)

i include constructional details, photos and voltage/temperature graph in my thread:

  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10174.msg269055#new


so, at least three different references now to achievable & sustained thermal electricity generation from ambient heat (and it sounds like shylo is on the same path, too)

it's early days obviously, and the power generated is still low - but the technology appears to work, so i don't see any reason why we can't scale this up to useful levels of power, in the same way that we've done with the groundbreaking work done by pioneers like Volta & Galvani


all the best
sandy

Title: Re: MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat
Post by: hartiberlin on July 28, 2022, 02:25:08 PM
I now made a short YouTube video about it.
https://youtu.be/uF4eVPOWGcc

enjoy and please like and subscribe to the channel.Many thanks.Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat
Post by: Paul-R on July 28, 2022, 04:44:15 PM
The US patent is here:
http://www.pat2pdf.org/pat2pdf/foo.pl?number=5989721
Title: Re: MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat
Post by: stivep on July 28, 2022, 10:44:22 PM
Wouldn't a device that generated power from ambient thermal temperature classify as an over unity device?


hi v109
yes, in the same sense that solar & wind power generation of electricity is OU

No  it is not :
Overunity device doesn't exist.
It is simply  energy converter from one form to another.
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WHAT IS THE MONOTHERMAL?
The Monothermal is a multi-layer laminate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laminate) that generates electrical current in the presence of ambient heat.
http://www.lovellpatentedtechnology.com/monothermal/what_is_monothermal.html (http://www.lovellpatentedtechnology.com/monothermal/what_is_monothermal.html)
Wesley
Title: Re: MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat
Post by: Paul-R on July 29, 2022, 12:16:16 AM
What I can't work out is why, when it seems a simple enough project, is the technology 25 years old with no apparent penetration into any market?
Title: Re: MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat
Post by: phoneboy on July 29, 2022, 05:04:00 PM
Agreed. T[size=78%]his is quite old, 1st saw this on revolution-green,. This is the perfect add on for solar, an array of these on the back of a solar panel/mirror for extra energy and in the case of solar panels cooling to to make them more efficient.[/size]