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Author Topic: Joule Ringer!  (Read 831797 times)

Djoko

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #600 on: October 08, 2012, 02:34:49 AM »
@ All,

Here my replication on SJR 3.0 using 10 mm dia ferite rod. I wind 340 turn of 0.4 mm mag. wire for secondary and 34 turn of 1 mm stranded insulated wire. It can light up Unmod CFL as well as LED bulb. The 11 watt CFL draw around 1 Amp while LED drink a lot of Amp (7 Amp). Transistor fairly cold when driving CFL but very HOT while driving LED. I tried on 680 : 34 winding ratio but it could not work.
Here my vid. :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMSdXNGgrBE

Rgd
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gadgetmall

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #601 on: October 08, 2012, 04:19:42 AM »
Weird . Mine don't draw hardly anything running 110vac led bulbs . a meer 27 milliamps . Mine runs off one aa battery  and glows a 130 volt fliiament  and runs cfls full bright !  you need 700 or more turns on the secondary and 60 or more on the primary using #12 or # 14 house wire solid copper . .. here is my setup using a 6 inch  rod   700 turns inside #20 16 outside #12  using tip3055 and one aa battery .  draw on this 40 watt led bulb full bright is 27 ma .

http://youtu.be/K7SMrTSklv0
« Last Edit: October 08, 2012, 06:42:53 AM by gadgetmall »

penno64

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #602 on: October 08, 2012, 05:16:17 AM »
@gadget
 
You sure on those numbers?
 
I am extremely impressed!
 
Penno

Djoko

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #603 on: October 08, 2012, 05:24:41 AM »
@ GM

Thank for your kind advice. So I may conclude :
60 : 700 turn ratio for 12 V
16 : 700 turn ratio for 1.5 V ,
Actually I already have 2 layer total 680 turn but on those vid I just set for 34 : 340. Sure I will build as yours since 6" rode is very cheap here (less then 1 BUG).

Rgd

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #604 on: October 08, 2012, 06:22:40 AM »
one aa battery .  draw on this 40 watt led bulb full bright is 27 ma .


 :)  Great results. Congratulations.

gadgetmall

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #605 on: October 08, 2012, 06:49:53 AM »
@gadget
 
You sure on those numbers?
 
I am extremely impressed!
 
Penno
Penno . Yes i am sure on the led bulbs it is very low .and i have the pot cap i put on here all the way to 4 k (using 4 kpot) it auto starts my led bulbs but i only run one at a time on this small voltage . Now  filament bulbs are sucking power like 500ma with  the pot cranked all the way to 0 ohms and i can back it off just a bit to glow it and its 300 ma any more and i cant see it glow . I am not messing with  this one any more and i have two fat rods i wrapped and one it doing great at 5 volts . I am probably going to case that one too .

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #606 on: October 08, 2012, 03:19:28 PM »
Well, I finally got a video up with waveforms and measurements.
I am nowhere near the performance of gadgetmall! That is superior, congratulations.

 I'm exploring a high-power operation mode, although it will light neon down to very low battery voltage if I use only a 220R base resistor. But it's doing some weird stuff, frequency-wise.

I'm still not convinced that the rod ferrite is totally necessary.... but then, I can't light my CFL quite as bright as it should be, either....
 :-\

However, I am at least starting to fry some components....
 ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGyolq1knc

(huh? Four views before I even posted a link?? Should I be expecting a visit from the MiBs soon?)

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #607 on: October 08, 2012, 04:38:21 PM »
So TK .That was an impressive presentation.  We have created a Current and voltage amplifier ? I am wondering if a ring's ability is somehow different that a rod's ? One thing i wonder about i haven't tried is, is there any usable voltage on the ends of the rod .Like a wire . unlike a tube or a ring .
In order for those cfls to fire you have to get the filaments inside the cfl tube glowing enuff to vaporize the mercury drop .  This will allow the hv circuit at the cfl base to connect that gas and fire that thing off bright. This is most exciting  stuff to fire cfls unmodified . way cool . I think you will find that the surface area of the ferrite does make the difference it helping current radiate thru to the secondary . I believe if we had a 6 inch wide rod 5 feet long  could power a house winding it with #12 and using #8 as the primary .....hey i can dream . . I wonder if i can wrap graphite rods . I have several one inch thick and two feet long .. any thoughts on why graphite won't work?

I am going to try it with a smaller one 1 foot long and see if it does anything .

Syncro1. I said 40 watt led . that is not correct . It produces the lumen's of a 40 watt bulb but it takes actually 7 actual watts . my other bulb with 50 led takes 12 watts  in a house socket . I have been lighting led bulbs unmodified for a very long time off my large toroidal power unit with a c cell battery for 3-5 days so this is nothing new to me but lighting cfls and incandescence certainly is off 1.5 volts . My tpu can light any led screw in bulb with 1.2 volts and current in it is 12 ma so it is much more efficient that these LS3 are in doing that .
I measure current with my meter in series with  the battery  I do not use a resistor and the way i do it does not seem to affect the operation of my circuits . .
« Last Edit: October 09, 2012, 03:54:37 AM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #608 on: October 08, 2012, 06:56:24 PM »
Gadgetmall,

                  A rough calculation puts your COP at >1000xO.U. That's a thousand times overunity! This factor would make Nuclear Fission and every other type of energy generation obsolete. This would amount to no small accomplishment! This has me really wondering if your measurements are accurate? I'm hopeing your right.

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #609 on: October 08, 2012, 07:04:39 PM »
Thanks to LS for simplifying everything, now it is so simple yet still more powerful and fun! I would like to replicate too. I did a simulation in LTSpice first and it seems that only if the coils are hooked up in the way below (note the dot notation in the circuit diagram).


In plain words, if the coils are wound in the same direction, then the dotted ends denote the starting ends of both coils (or the ending ends of both coils); if wound in different direction, then the dotted ends denote a starting end of one coil and the ending end of another.


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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #610 on: October 09, 2012, 12:23:11 AM »
I did a test using a Joule thief circuit to see if it could light a 120 VAC LED bulb using a toroid and a 1.5 volt AA battery. It can, but the bulb is not very bright. A resonant circuit is more efficient (more light for less power).


video >>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLbfmcjGsQM

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #611 on: October 09, 2012, 03:11:16 AM »
Weird . Mine don't draw hardly anything running 110vac led bulbs . a meer 27 milliamps . Mine runs off one aa battery  and glows a 130 volt fliiament  and runs cfls full bright !  you need 700 or more turns on the secondary and 60 or more on the primary using #12 or # 14 house wire solid copper . .. here is my setup using a 6 inch  rod   700 turns inside #20 16 outside #12  using tip3055 and one aa battery .  draw on this 40 watt led bulb full bright is 27 ma .

http://youtu.be/K7SMrTSklv0


The simulation below seems to confirm the current measurement.

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #612 on: October 09, 2012, 04:07:30 AM »
Gadgetmall,

                  A rough calculation puts your COP at >1000xO.U. That's a thousand times overunity! This factor would make Nuclear Fission and every other type of energy generation obsolete. This would amount to no small accomplishment! This has me really wondering if your measurements are accurate? I'm hoping your right.
I don't know how your figuring this but it can't be right . I did say my led bulbs were 40 watts and that is incorrect however . They produce light equal to a 40 watt incandescent white bulb but only draw 7 watt s. now recalculate that and see if it is more reasonable  . to me 27 ma is high to light these because  i have done it before with half that with this
    http://youtu.be/UOPfqsH6_-U  but what is different is the current it produces to light cfl's full on  and glow filaments from a battey cell  . this is cool .

incase you missed my TPU running leds bulbs .

http://youtu.be/3EPx7Zq46MI http://youtu.be/3EPx7Zq46MI
« Last Edit: October 09, 2012, 06:05:32 AM by gadgetmall »

NickZ

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #613 on: October 09, 2012, 05:01:04 AM »
  I've been testing transistors to see if I can find some that will work, and last a while also.  As you can see from the picture below I gone through a few of them...
  So, I'm also making a new coil from an old crt monitor ferrite yoke. I'm almost done with it. Here's a picture of the small 3 inch radio rod coil, as well as the new yoke coil.
  I'm making the replication from this video, as the yoke has been able to do just about as well as the bigger ferrite rod like Lasersabers uses.
   
   Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=e3wifl_FnZo
   


 


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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #614 on: October 09, 2012, 06:13:19 AM »
  I've been testing transistors to see if I can find some that will work, and last a while also.  As you can see from the picture below I gone through a few of them...
  So, I'm also making a new coil from an old crt monitor ferrite yoke. I'm almost done with it. Here's a picture of the small 3 inch radio rod coil, as well as the new yoke coil.
  I'm making the replication from this video, as the yoke has been able to do just about as well as the bigger ferrite rod like Lasersabers uses.
   
   Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=e3wifl_FnZo
   
AWESOME NICKZ !!! . I love it . care to share the voltage input . Its look super cool and i know you are proud of it. Thanks for hanig in here with  us creating new ways to get some power . Some details on how you wound it and if you used just one half of the core ?

Great Job!!