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Shokac

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #360 on: June 14, 2011, 08:47:37 AM »
In some ways yes. It would be better to put the DC / AC inverter (12 / 110 or 220) and diode bridge.
Batteries are also pretty good solution.

Why do you ask?
Because JT idling consumes a lot of energy to their work. If you would put a greater source then the exit get a lot more energy, and for JT and would be again the same forces. (I hope). Probably in that case had enough energy for his work and for the load? OU???

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #361 on: June 14, 2011, 11:19:41 PM »
In some ways yes. It would be better to put the DC / AC inverter (12 / 110 or 220) and diode bridge.
Batteries are also pretty good solution.
I see.  For me, the batteries are fairly cheap and low enough in voltage.
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Why do you ask?
I have a Bench Forum at OUR  ( http://www.overunityresearch.com ) that deals with my personal experiments in low voltage OU.  A couple threads may be applicable to your concepts, but not exactly.
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Because JT idling consumes a lot of energy to their work. If you would put a greater source then the exit get a lot more energy, and for JT and would be again the same forces. (I hope). Probably in that case had enough energy for his work and for the load? OU???
Yes, true.  The Joule Ringer is well known for that performance if the transformer is a toroid.

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #362 on: June 23, 2011, 11:43:48 PM »
@Pirate88179
Hi Bill,
What watt were the LOA's you used in the vid? The ones with 27LED's in them...

Conrad:

I understand.  If you are interested, check out my latest video where i compare my newest JT powered twin led bulb light to that of a JT driven cfl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb7HUuFFJnM


@Conrad,
I like seeing a cfl on an AA too. lol

@lasersaber,
4ua is very impressive even for one special LED. The low power 555's take abt 18ua, but they allow more versatility on a 30% on duty cycle.
4ua is so low I'm amazed you can't recover enough to sustain it.
I know it's not an easy process getting a current draw that low to operate anything with.

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #363 on: June 24, 2011, 10:13:10 AM »
@Pirate88179
Hi Bill,
What watt were the LOA's you used in the vid? The ones with 27LED's in them...

@Conrad,
I like seeing a cfl on an AA too. lol

@lasersaber,
4ua is very impressive even for one special LED. The low power 555's take abt 18ua, but they allow more versatility on a 30% on duty cycle.
4ua is so low I'm amazed you can't recover enough to sustain it.
I know it's not an easy process getting a current draw that low to operate anything with.

Well, I didn't really know until I just read on the side of one of them.  It says:

120 v 2W 45mA's.  I am sure on the package it gave the equivalent wattage of an Edison based bulb but I no longer have that and do not remember what it said.  If I can find it on the net, I will edit my post here.

Bill

***EDIT***  According to Google, it says 40w equivalent for those bulbs for what that is worth.  They put out a lot of light for the money.

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« Reply #364 on: June 24, 2011, 07:11:30 PM »
@Pirate88179
Thanks Bill,
I could find the specs of 27LED uses 2w, but not much else on that light. It looks much brighter than what most advertize of a 10w output. Wife just headed to Lowes and hope they have them. The website listing didn't look promising. They have LED lights in that size, but list them as 1-10w.
I'll probably have to order them. From your vid, 40 watts looks more reasonable. That will make a nice addition to my collection!

Edit: Well Lowes here has nothing close so thats gonna be an order LED. The closest they have is 1/2 in Sylvania. sigh.. Also, The local Family Dollar store has 60w small spiral cfl's for $1 ea. ! I bought 2 and they look good if you like the soft white look. I prefer the higher K rating myself, but for $1 it's a deal.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2011, 08:35:02 PM by LeaningGreen »

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #365 on: June 25, 2011, 07:40:41 AM »
Walmart is the one that carries those LOA bulbs in my area.  About $7.00 each.

Bill

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« Reply #366 on: June 26, 2011, 07:31:13 AM »
I had to use the buy 3 and free shipping from Amazon. lol
Not a store with in 75mi of me had them.

Thanks for all the info Bill. Much appreciated.

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« Reply #367 on: June 26, 2011, 01:42:14 PM »
I had to use the buy 3 and free shipping from Amazon. lol
Not a store with in 75mi of me had them.

Thanks for all the info Bill. Much appreciated.

No problem at all.

You will put those three to good use I am sure.  When you see how great they light compared to a cfl on the same JT, you will love them.

PS  I did not mod the bulbs in any way and used the Edison base to hook up my wires.  I have no idea why that works, but it does.  I ended up taking one apart and ran my wires directly to the leds to compare and I saw no real difference.

Bill

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« Reply #368 on: June 26, 2011, 11:55:53 PM »
I saw where you used the base as is. Pretty neat. I plan to do the same. My guess is the base only has 2 diodes in it and runs the LEDs on 1/2wave DC. The output of a JT from the coil is AC so that would work. I have seen an LED light on low AC. My only explanation is the diode itself rectifies the AC from a + & - sinewave. CFL circuitry is much more specific on its needs.

My wife had called me with a cpl she found while shopping and I looked them up but the specs were nothing close to the LOA ones you posted so I passed and just placed the order. They were all abt 50% of the LOA in wattage, low K(orange) and the current draw was high.

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« Reply #369 on: July 30, 2011, 05:12:20 AM »
I have now been able to make successful replications of my Joule Ringer circuit.  I reduced everything to the minimum number of parts needed.  I found out the the number 2 coil can be an air core coil.  I will post a DIY video with lots of new details and schematic later tonight after I get back from Church.


Wow...Great Job.
Nice and simple.








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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #370 on: August 26, 2011, 07:52:11 PM »
I have this working with a solar system in my workshop.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glRuwV9IlaY




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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #371 on: August 26, 2011, 07:53:56 PM »
I have this working with a solar system in my workshop.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glRuwV9IlaY
thumbs up!

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #372 on: August 26, 2011, 09:11:57 PM »
I have this working with a solar system in my workshop.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glRuwV9IlaY
@lasersaber
Yes, impressive.  I myself can light a couple of fluorescent tubes in series with wall mains power, but your research prototype is a whole lot better.

Can you upload a schematic?  Possibly a similar circuit found on the 'Web that you have the address to?

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #373 on: August 27, 2011, 03:34:08 AM »
Very well done Lasersaber.

Maybe you can offer a kit for it ?

Or would be great, if you could post a circuit diagram.

Many thanks for your great work.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #374 on: August 27, 2011, 03:35:43 AM »
P.S: What input power is this drawing ?

12 Volts x 200 Milliamps ?
So 2.4 Watts only ?

Are these CFLs bulbs or LEDs ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.