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Author Topic: Joule Ringer!  (Read 831896 times)

Pirate88179

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #300 on: March 11, 2011, 07:07:16 AM »
Stephen:

Good to see you again man.  Congrats on the little one, a full time job to be sure, ha ha.  Thanks for your kind words.  There has been a lot of cool stuff being worked on and I am way behind the curve myself due to lack of money and working all of the hours that I can.

I look forward to seeing your participation and projects.  Lasersaber's work is certainly very interesting and has opened many more doors in my opinion.  He has certainly raised the bar for the rest of us.

Bill

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #301 on: March 11, 2011, 07:15:17 AM »
Hi All

e2matrix posted a circuit that seems related in that it can drive a load through capacitors and coils and last a long time on one charge.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10480.msg277323#msg277323

It seems to be a spice simulation theory at first glance but it might be worth looking into if anyone is interested.

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #302 on: March 11, 2011, 10:03:15 AM »
@Mark: what you said about the iron coil is just incredible, because it simply means that modern electro-magnetic theory is wrong at its very foundation! Are you only kidding us or have you verified it yourself?

lanenal

Its is based on my observation of a video made by John Bedini , he made 2 identical coil one of iron and one of copper . For the iron coil to work in the same way the copper coil did he had to reverse the battery .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

It seems trivial at first but explains why Laser saber and others made report of no galvanic NS coil working .

Mark 

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #303 on: March 11, 2011, 12:38:00 PM »
Its is based on my observation of a video made by John Bedini , he made 2 identical coil one of iron and one of copper . For the iron coil to work in the same way the copper coil did he had to reverse the battery .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

It seems trivial at first but explains why Laser saber and others made report of no galvanic NS coil working .

Mark

Sorry, what do you mean by "NS coil"? I might just wind an iron coil and give it a test myself. I don't think this can be true, but who knows. Or it might just be a bad joke from John.

lanenal

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #304 on: March 11, 2011, 01:04:32 PM »
Sorry, what do you mean by "NS coil"? I might just wind an iron coil and give it a test myself. I don't think this can be true, but who knows. Or it might just be a bad joke from John.

lanenal

I asked John to make sure there was no mistake , NS for Nathan Stublefield Coil.

You need the good iron .

Mark

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #305 on: March 11, 2011, 03:59:13 PM »
@poynt99,

This seems somewhat connected to the topic at hand -- would you be interested in making a PSpice simulation of this schematic: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10174.msg268372#msg268372 ? Would be interesting to see if that's really the same violation as what I'm observing in the simple RC circuit (by analyzing the raw data transparently in Excel and not using the PSpice analysis tool).

Omnibus,

I've looked at and simulated Sandy's circuits quite some time ago, and there is no OU to report in the simulations.

.99

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #306 on: March 11, 2011, 04:35:47 PM »
I mean c'mon guys, just because SPICE doesn't simulate something doesn't mean it's not there. I have no idea about NS coil in particular, but I'm just saying

Can SPICE simulate the behavior of scalar waves?   Sure it's good for doing conventional EM behavior, but it's missing large parts of electrodynamics.

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #307 on: March 12, 2011, 05:35:45 AM »
I asked John to make sure there was no mistake , NS for Nathan Stublefield Coil.

You need the good iron .

Mark

Thanks. If I replicate this, what kind of iron would be good for it?

lanenal

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #308 on: March 12, 2011, 05:40:24 AM »
Thanks. If I replicate this, what kind of iron would be good for it?

lanenal

It needs to be soft iron , not steel .

I am working on a simpler design , i will post soon .

Mark

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #309 on: March 13, 2011, 10:02:46 AM »

[[Quote from: Omnibus
     @poynt99,
    ...would you be interested in making a PSpice simulation of this schematic:     
    http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10174.msg268372#msg268372 ?]]

Omnibus,

I've looked at and simulated Sandy's circuits quite some time ago, and there is no OU to report in the simulations.

.99


LOL  you can always rely on someone in the overunity community to bring a smile to your face


so, you're saying that because you simulated one circuit of somebody's, back in 2008, you know that you don't need to simulate a completely different circuit of theirs in 2011 to decide that it's not OU?

hey, with a skill like that, who needs simulators?!?


first schematic below is the circuit for which you posted some Sim results (back in 2008, one of the circuits from my Switched Cap thread)

next schematic below is the circuit (posted a few months back, in my thread about a self-sustaining DIY cell) which Omni just asked if you could simulate


almost as funny is the fact that this recent circuit isn't claimed to be OU anyway

as i poynt out in the first line of the link which Omni gave you:
  "as far as i know, this particular circuit used here as a load is not critical to the behaviour of the system"

folks, i think we have to question just how carefully Mr Poynt "looks at" people's circuits  (and posts)   ;)

can we have more entertainment like this please, gentlemen?
 
 
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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #310 on: March 14, 2011, 04:36:26 AM »
I asked John to make sure there was no mistake , NS for Nathan Stublefield Coil.

You need the good iron .

Mark

So John simply would a traditional coil but with soft iron wire, correct? Or do you mean there is a complicated design? If it is complicated, there maybe something in it that can be explained by the traditional theory. Anyway, a design is highly welcome.

lanenal

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #311 on: March 14, 2011, 07:19:12 AM »
So John simply would a traditional coil but with soft iron wire, correct? Or do you mean there is a complicated design? If it is complicated, there maybe something in it that can be explained by the traditional theory. Anyway, a design is highly welcome.

lanenal

Yes its only a iron coil , but to have the effect of the bifillar coil on the joule ringer you need a iron copper pair. Traditional thinking is not a problem here once you know that both coil will have opposed field.

Mark

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #312 on: March 31, 2011, 02:03:27 AM »
How to build the Joule Ringer transformer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVWFlpRmLkE

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #313 on: March 31, 2011, 05:55:01 AM »
Thanks for the update and directions lasersaber.  Looks like you've really got it dialed in.  Are you still using the Fuji transistor?

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #314 on: March 31, 2011, 01:44:54 PM »
@lasersaber: thank you for the nice video!

Because I want to wind such a transformer, I made a little drawing. It will serve as a note when winding the transformer.

Please have a look at it, is it right? The free end of the twisted length is embedded in the coil (not connected to any pin)?

What transistor do you use? What is the Voltage of the starting charge of the electrolytic capacitor?

Greetings, Conrad