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Author Topic: Joule Ringer!  (Read 831866 times)

lasersaber

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2011, 03:15:52 PM »

nievesoliveras

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2011, 04:55:29 PM »
@lasersaber

You are really a good experimenter!!

Jesus

tagor

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #77 on: January 10, 2011, 05:17:34 PM »

Taylor1992

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« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2011, 05:48:54 PM »
Hey everyone, I got tired of jumping around everyone's pages on youtube, so I went ahead and made a new account called JouleRinger.
The Account info is [User name: jonathan_michel32@yahoo.com] [Password: jouleringer]

Let me know if you do not want your video's posted on the account, or just remove them yourself.

It would really be nice if everyone could post videos about any progress with this circuit on there ;)

Either way, I'll continue to update the account whenever I have some spare time.

lasersaber

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2011, 06:50:22 PM »
I like your idea but I prefer to keep my videos on my channel.  In the past I've had problems when others copied my videos (such as them selling scam information in connection with my video).  I'm not worried that you or anyone here would do so, but I'd prefer to stick to my policy.  Besides that, I also make a small amount from the ads that play on the bottom of my videos.  It's not much, but it helps pay for wire and other stuff I use in the experiments.  What I did do is go and add my joule ringer videos as favorites in your youtube channel.  That should accomplish the same goal.  Thanks for taking the time to do this.

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shylo

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2011, 10:47:34 PM »
Hi Lasersaber ,It took me all day but I finally got to watch your latest video ,totally amazing!! I see how you added a secondary coil because you said you burnt out a couple of transformers . Can you give more info on what types of transformer can be used , were they all identical or is there some tolerance there, also pin #'s. I wish I had half the talent you have keep up the great work!.......I have two caps that are 12000uf 56wv ,is this 56 volts??They charge up to 5volts after 15mins hooked to 2.4volt water battery, does this make any sense??......sorry for rambiling just have a thousand thoughts running through my brain,you can probably smell the smoke lol..........thanx shylo

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« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2011, 12:38:09 AM »
Fantastic vid LS! WOW

This circuit seems so simple, I bet you could run this thing off of a solar calculator cell because it seems to drain so slowly.

Keep up the inspiring work

The Observer

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2011, 07:34:08 AM »
Joule Ringers,

---> Thanks to everyone for your research and experimentation. ! <---

I have a suggestion, I think Gadget has mentioned something to this effect.
However, I would like to state my version of it.

Use an Untampered Camera Circuit to charge the Joule Ringer's Capacitor intermittently... with a 1.5 V Battery.

                                                Fuji Camera Output ----> Capacitor -----> Joule Ringer

                                        Because the basic Camera Circuit can charge a 300 uf Cap to 100 V
                                                       in about one second from a 1.5 V Battery,
                                                                   this might be a good idea.

GodSpeed,
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nievesoliveras

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2011, 01:15:09 PM »
@observer

Exactly that is what I am trying to do.

To have a high voltage circuit that fires itself once each minute or once each hour to replenish the power source with a strong spike that will be accepted by the running battery without affecting its work and maintaining the circuit self running until the battery gets to its charge discharge limit.

Jesus

neptune

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #84 on: January 11, 2011, 04:06:39 PM »
@the Observer. Charging the cap to 100 volts will almost certainly blow your transistor .
@ lasersabre . Not everyone has a camera transformer . What are your thoughts on making your own on a toroidal core . Could you perhaps suggest a suitable core and turns ratio ?

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« Reply #85 on: January 11, 2011, 05:28:06 PM »
Hello i have a thought about torroids . we have done that and been there . The torroid you will need cost 25-50 dollars from what i remember . If you search jeanna's light you will see somewhere in the middle of the joule thief thread that we all finally got a replacment for a fuji transformer . unfortunatly they are 10 times the cost of a 5 dollar disposable camer and are LARGE high permability rings somewhere arount 4 to 5 inches in diameter and are very special . other core did not work no matter how many turns of copper . Lasersaber may have other thoughts but you can ask almost anyone here who has lit Cfls with Toroids and they will all tell you the same thing and that is it is way more expensive and time consuming . Also fuji camers are 7 to 8 dollars for a pack of two anywhere .

Albert
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neptune

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #86 on: January 11, 2011, 05:41:15 PM »
@Gadgetmall . Thanks for that info.

The Observer

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #87 on: January 11, 2011, 06:01:30 PM »
nievesoliveras,

I said...
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Use an Untampered Camera Circuit to charge the Joule Ringer's Capacitor intermittently... with a 1.5 V Battery.

                                                Fuji Camera Output ----> Capacitor -----> Joule Ringer

                                        Because the basic Camera Circuit can charge a 300 uf Cap to 100 V
                                                       in about one second from a 1.5 V Battery,
                                                                   this might be a good idea.
You said,
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Exactly that is what I am trying to do.
Brilliant.

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neptune,

You said,
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@the Observer. Charging the cap to 100 volts will almost certainly blow your transistor .
Probably true... admittedly a great demonstration showing a plain camera circuit is something worth pondering over !
However, perhaps the camera circuit runs for like 1/8th of a second.. to charge the cap to desired voltage (say 15 Volts).

Best Regards,
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conradelektro

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #88 on: January 11, 2011, 08:03:05 PM »
Starting with a SlayerExciter circuit with tower-coil, pancake-coil and a MPSA06 transistor, I tried to replicate LserSaber's idea with the bifilar coil on the basis of the transistor.

At 4 Volt and with the bifilar coil L3 on the basis of the transistor the circuit uses about 5 times less power than the basic SlayerExciter (about 10 mA versus about 50 mA), but the little 220V-FL-tube is also a bit dimmer.

The bifilar coil L3 has too little windings (only 20 turns). I will wind a better one (similar to LaserSaber's coils) for further tests. And it is a bit of problem how to terminate the bifilar coil L3. I finally used a 1 M resistor and a 33 pF capacitor. Touching the two ends works best.

This experiment shows, that one can reproduce the effect with air coils too (instead of using a little transformer). It needs further work, specially measurements with a scope, to find out what is happening.

What I have seen so far, the bifilar coil on the basis of the transistor reduces the oscillation frequency of the circuit dramatically.

Conrad

nievesoliveras

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #89 on: January 11, 2011, 08:56:21 PM »
@conradelektro

There is also another sec exciter that uses just a small camera trigger transformer and a couple of aluminum trays and works very well at lighting cfls wireless.

Maybe a combination of the three configurations would be a good thing.

Jesus