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Offline TinselKoala

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« Reply #630 on: October 12, 2012, 05:33:13 AM »
  Tinselkoala:
   You might want to try to change the polarity of both the primary as well as the secondary wire connections, as it can make all the difference. Mine would not even start until I changed the polarity.
I also have the same problem of not being able to connect the bulb back to the transistor, without it ringing, or not even starting.  But the way I have it now it does not ring at all, but I still need to put my hand on the bulb to get it to light more brightly. So, I'm still working on that.  Any ideas are welcome.

   NickZ

I've tried all four possible combinations; two work and two don't. The two that do, I can't tell any difference.

But... I was able to get my NErattler that powers the Ring Oscillator to start oscillating right away when power is applied, by adding a 10K resistor between the base and the positive rail. It also makes it run down to lower voltages before shutting down. It starts reliably now, even with the lowest applied voltage.

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« Reply #631 on: October 12, 2012, 07:48:29 AM »
  Tinselkoala:
  Well, that's good news.
 
   I also have some good news today. I finally got my Joule Ringer to work like it should, and produce the brightness that I imagined was possible. I redid all my connections, and added an earth ground to the positive rail. Now I can connect the Cfl bulb's negative back to the transistor collector, as Lasersaber mentioned. and don't need to hold or touch the bulb to have it fully lit.  The output is so bright it's practically blinding.  I'm lighting my whole house, from a single 65 watt Cfl bulb now, and it's light even goes out across the back yard.. Unbelievable!
 The pictures don't do it justice...



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« Reply #632 on: October 12, 2012, 08:03:52 AM »
I've tried all four possible combinations; two work and two don't. The two that do, I can't tell any difference.

But... I was able to get my NErattler that powers the Ring Oscillator to start oscillating right away when power is applied, by adding a 10K resistor between the base and the positive rail. It also makes it run down to lower voltages before shutting down. It starts reliably now, even with the lowest applied voltage.

TK,

I also found that the circuit did need a low resistance load to start oscillating. But I wanted the circuit to start anyway
because some of the loads I needed to test on was a high resistance load. Some of the Osram LED bulbs sold
here in Norway does not have any DC resistance at all, and probably have a capacitive input. The circuit will not
start at those bulbs. So I used a 3K3 Ohm resistor as bias and later found out that I could put a LED in series with
the resistor to get a nice ON indicator also. Works great, my circuit start up every time if the input voltage is above
1 Volt. Once started, I can run the circuit at input voltages as low as 0,32 Volt. And I'm currently testing how low I can
go before the circuits stops. At 0,32 Volt circuit input, I still have a good green light in my power on indicator LED
and my output LED lamp still has two of the LEDs lighted, but very dim. I'm working on a new circuit and coil where
I will try to make a night light. I will be using one LED only and run the circuit from a 50 Farad 2,5 Volt capacitor.
By using the known "capacitor self recharge effect" I will see if the circuit can light a ultra bright LED (dim) for a
very long time since the circuit only need a very low voltage to run and a very low current to keep the LED light.

ADDED: Could not get this circuit to perform well. Seems to me that a smaller diameter coil with less copper wire
is NOT the way to go in this circuit. So I just connected my 50 Farad 2,5 Volt capacitor to my first version circuit and
will see how low voltage the circuit can run on.

ADDED: My first version circuit did run until the voltage over the capacitor went down to 0,188 Volt.
I have attached the circuit drawing I'm using in this test.

GL.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2012, 06:04:38 PM by Groundloop »

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #633 on: October 12, 2012, 08:10:06 AM »
  Tinselkoala:
  Well, that's good news.
 
   I also have some good news today. I finally got my Joule Ringer to work like it should, and produce the brightness that I imagined was possible. I redid all my connections, and added an earth ground to the positive rail. Now I can connect the Cfl bulb's negative back to the transistor collector, as Lasersaber mentioned. and don't need to hold or touch the bulb to have it fully lit.  The output is so bright it's practically blinding.  I'm lighting my whole house, from a single 65 watt Cfl bulb now, and it's light even goes out across the back yard.. Unbelievable!
 The pictures don't do it justice...

NickZ,

Very nice done! :-)

How much input voltage and current do you need to keep that CFL fully bright?

GL.

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« Reply #634 on: October 12, 2012, 09:25:41 AM »
   Right now I'm using a wall adapter with 14volts, and 1 amp input to the circuit.
  Since my analog meter is not working on the higher mA setting I'm not sure what the circuit is drawing. Tomorrow, actually today as it's 1am, I plan on connecting this set up to 4 small motion light solar panels, that are all connected in parallel. They probably output about 300mA, or so, at 11.5 volts, in full sun.
The main thing for me is that the MJE 3055 is stone cold, as if no current is going through it. So, I would think that it could take even higher voltage/current levels, than I'm giving it now.
 I don't know if the bulb is fully 100% lit, but it is certainly bright enough for me. Since I have several 65watt Cfls, I'll see just how many I can light with this system as is. There is slight ringing now, even though I put masking tape between the two yoke halves. But, other than that,  I'm a happy camper now.

« Last Edit: October 12, 2012, 05:49:04 PM by NickZ »

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #635 on: October 12, 2012, 02:18:13 PM »
@Nickz,
 
         That's gotta be the coolest looking light gadget of all time! I wondered where you were headed with that conical ferrite yoke. The idea that it's projecting an intensified field into the 65 watt CFL bulb base and adding to the brightness is fantastic. Congratulations on a really impressive put together! 

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« Reply #636 on: October 13, 2012, 06:59:49 AM »
  Thank you for the nice compliments Synchro1, I appreciate it.

   Here is a very short video showing the Joule Ringer Lamp lighting my dinning table.
If the video volume is too low, just turn it up, as this camera has low volume levels.
  Thanks for watching,
                                  NickZ

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iTdrjIRiwo&feature=youtu.be
 
                             


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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #637 on: October 13, 2012, 01:27:07 PM »
@Nickz
That is looking very nice and bright, looking forward to your solar panel test,
I try this myself and found my best results with two panels in series and then connect the two pairs.

It would be interesting if you can run your light of a capacitor, first without solar panels
and then with the solar panels to see how much longer you can get.

There must come a point when one of these Joule lights will be self sustaining and for that to be provable
Surely it must be able to run from a capacitor as most of us know battery chemistry can be unpredictable

This is currently one of the best threads on the forum, no extravagant claims, all the information available,
and good honest people sharing their work openly for everyone to see.

All the best

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #638 on: October 14, 2012, 02:24:27 AM »
  Powercat:
  I will try your suggestion tomorrow, of two panels in series, and two in parallel. As the way they are now would not light the 65watt Cfl bulb, fully bright.  My panels don't have enough current output. But, I'll give your idea a try anyway, you never know...
  The four small panels are all in parallel, but can't provide enough current to fully light the big bulb. But, it did light the bulb fairly well even directly connected to the panels. I will do more testing tomorrow with a 12 battery to see how bright it will light the bulbs.

  I don't have high voltage capacitors to try on this system, as this inverter system does have a lot of current output also, not just fluffy voltage, and it will light a neon extremely bright, and will also shock the living sh!t out of you.


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« Reply #638 on: October 14, 2012, 02:24:27 AM »
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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #639 on: October 14, 2012, 02:45:03 PM »
  Powercat:
  I will try your suggestion tomorrow, of two panels in series, and two in parallel.

Sorry for any confusion,
take two panels and put them in series then take the other two panels and do the same thing,
So now you have two pairs of panels in series, then connect the pairs in parallel.

When I tried this combination with my 4 big panels I got the best results,
I'm not expecting you to achieve self sustaining, though it would be interesting to have an idea
on how much more efficient these types of circuits can get by recycling the light energy.

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #640 on: October 14, 2012, 09:59:32 PM »
  Powercat:
  Ok, I got that. It's overcast and raining here today, so no solar panels work until the weather clears, but I'll give that a try.
  I do believe this system is more than just a simple DC to AC inverter.  Yes, the neon lights both sides, extremely bright.  I think that in the collapse of the coil there is additional energy being drawn in.  I can't prove it, but I feel this is true. Especially when I see the brightness of the neon, and the intensity of the shocks.  If it were just a simple inverter there would be much less current, as it gets converted and reduced  to create the much higher voltages. But, there is still a lot of current present also, enough to light a 60 watt or higher wattage bulb.  Therefore my assumption...  I could be wrong, but, I could be right, as well. This needs to be proven, once and for all.

         NickZ


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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #641 on: October 15, 2012, 04:30:18 PM »
@TinselKoala:
I gave your inductor/transformer a quick try this weekend.  I was able to light 2 X 1.2w LED 120VAC fan bulbs.  The transformer is a ferrite E-Core liberated from a power supply that had eight pins.  Once I found the correct pin pair for the positive connection and connection to the collector, the three other sets of pins all worked at various output levels.  This did not work with the 7.5w Utilitech LED Bulb.  This setup used the very simple Lasersaber 3.0 Joule Ringer circuit using the 2n3055.  I did not run current or light output tests on this setup, but I think when I do that the results will be very positive.
I did run efficiency tests using the RS center tap ac-dc 12v transformer as well as the ac-dc 9v transformer mentioned earlier.  Both of these are the steel laminated type transformers.  The 9v transformer gave me an 80% efficiency in my rudimentary tests.  The RS transformer did not fair as well.  I conclude that the quality of transformer makes a big difference and would like to see numbers run on the hand-wound ferrites. 
Edit: Remember, there is a double set of losses built into this setup.  First is the conversion of battery DC into AC, then at the bulb we are converting the AC back into DC.
Sorry, I do not have the link available here at work as Youtube is blocked, however if you would like to see the video posted it is named:
LSJR3.0 Mod Easy LED 120vac Bulb Inverter – Oubrads

I agree with the comment by @powercat:
“This is currently one of the best threads on the forum, no extravagant claims, all the information available, and good honest people sharing their work openly for everyone to see.”

@NickZ:
The beauty of this setup is that you can run your bulb a considerable distance from the circuit.  Keep the batteries, Ringer, chargers in an area where the ringing is not a problem and run a cord to the light.  This should alleviate the ringing problem you have.

Brad S
« Last Edit: October 15, 2012, 06:35:11 PM by b_rads »

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« Reply #642 on: October 17, 2012, 09:14:09 PM »
  Guys:
   Lasersaber has done it again...
   Here is his newest version of the Joule Ringer incorporated into an all in one device:  SOLN1
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy9wT7Vvkdw

   He has mentioned that he doesn't have the time to deal with all the questions, on all the different forums, so he has now made his own forum to focus on this,
   Solar Joule Ringer Device, the SOLN1
   http://laserhacker.com/forum/index.php

    NickZ


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« Reply #643 on: October 19, 2012, 05:21:53 AM »
  Here's a couple of pictures of my Ringer Lamp running both a 50 watt incandescent, as well as a 65 watt Cfl bulb. Last pic is an led running wireless on an inductor placed next to the coil. You can see the 2 snake eggs magnets, now keeping the coils frequency high enough that I can't hear the ringing, at all.
  NickZ


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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #644 on: October 19, 2012, 08:49:36 PM »
@ NickZ


Very impressive. What voltage and current are required to light the 50 watt incandescent bulb?






 

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