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Offline Mk1

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2011, 03:52:08 AM »
I got this form another source

Skaght at nrgtikforum

"      I'm getting the same effect by replacing the bifilar coil completely with a leaky capacitor. I put a ~50 nF cap with 20 MEG ohm resistance in parallel across it and the circuit works!!!! (although the fluorescent flashes a lot more) That's much easier than building a huge bifilar and you don't need any germanium diodes...

I will say that my fluorescent is not very bright, although it wasn't with my bifilar either...  "




He doesn't say how long it works , only Lasersaber could validate officially .

But my guess is that a coil with a high capacitance is needed .

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« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2011, 03:52:08 AM »

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2011, 06:35:42 AM »
I found it and without building anything other than SIM's.....The reason why caps and resistors work is because you are setting the DC bias level on the base of the transistor. However without a bifilar coil all you do is set the bias so it works and drains the cap so it works like a normal JT.

The only possible way is IF the bifilar really is adding energy back into the circuit. The diodes set the DC bias and using leaky ones acts like a zener but at 0.3v drop per diode to set the base. In reverse voltage spike the diodes conduct the other way and push the RE charge back towards the capacitor keeping it topped up. SO germanium diodes could be replaced by 1n4007's then set the bias on the transistor properly using resistors.

This is why if you hold the ends of the bifilar coil the light gets brighter as you push more current on the transistor base!

Now at this point we have to assume the bifilar really adds energy back to the system as he spent time already winding several versions and the large ones work best so there IS something going on.

More.......found out ONE 1n4007 should work unless it gets killed by over volts. Break the base and add proper biasing in there and a 100ohm resistor in series with the transformer trigger base lead.

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2011, 06:43:37 AM »
So, why, then, he doesn't place the device in a Faraday cage as someone already suggested?

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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2011, 06:43:37 AM »
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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2011, 10:02:06 AM »
I believe this is the raw circuit.


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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2011, 07:28:56 PM »
hey bolt . switch the Hv out and the top secondary connection . Hv out would be on top .

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2011, 01:57:11 AM »
Hi Lasorsaber.
Best FE U-T video I've seen. Great communication and complete narration of important observations.

Do you find the circuit must have a CFL to work at the high levels you've achieved?
Have U tried other than "leaky diodes"?

I believe the plasma with KR-85 gas gives JT that extra kick! Plasma cause charge separation
& CFT has good chance of containing a # of nano curies of KR gas. Try a Phillips CF, read the box for caution notice.

Thanks man.

Paste answer to... also.
I have asked same on your U-T "light keeps....) video

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2011, 07:58:46 PM »
@ Laserrod

Thanks for your kind comments.

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Do you find the circuit must have a CFL to work at the high levels you've achieved?

Yes, A CFL seems critical to getting it working.

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Have U tried other than "leaky diodes"?

Yes, as shown in my last video touching the wires works just as well.  I have also used two copper pipes in the ground set 30 feet apart. I have also used citrus fruit peels.  I tried resistors but I did not own any that would work.


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Try a Phillips CF, read the box for caution notice.

I will have to give it a try.

@Everybody

Dragon over on energetic forums has replicated this and is getting 15 minute run times.



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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2011, 07:58:46 PM »
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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2011, 11:01:32 PM »
@LS

fantastic vid and discovery!  I think you have found something special with this circuit, not we need to understand whats going on in it.  Have you tried 1000uf caps with your ringer?

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2011, 11:46:02 PM »
@All;

I just wanted to suggest the similarity of this JT circuit to the "IMHOTEP
Emergency Light
” that was used to light a CFL using an (unsatisfactory)
electromagnetic relay to do the oscillating function and an std. automobile
ignition coil (three terminal HV transformer) as the step-up coil. This post
is so others might be able to use some of the ideas. A Web Link follows;

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5296.0

Others found that they were able to connect additional multiple CFL’s in
parallel with the first, without totally disrupting the unit's operation over
“flying” HV leads. This strongly suggest the availability of free electrons
from the environment - extra electrons stimulated to flow in the wire circuit
due to the presents of the initial HV AC signal.

I suggested that using a five sided cube of solarcells located around the
CFL (especially if you can get some of the new Spectrolab 35% efficient cells),
like it should produce a provable and viable OU energy supply.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2011, 11:46:02 PM »
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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2011, 05:30:51 AM »
@all

Lidmotor second attempt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJrutcVNtbs

Mark

Some thought

It seem also that the direction of the diodes is important , but since he mentioned that they are leaking , it means it works like a single wire both ways , but he got really different results depending on the direction , the diodes have to have a second function . I think is to capture the Bemf and send it back in the coil .


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Congratulations LaserSaber
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2011, 08:20:52 AM »
@LaserSaber
Congratulations Lasersaber - amazing circuit - never seen anything quite like it. Love your work. PTL  :)
I have replicated and it works just as you show on your videos. Mine will run 15w CFL dimly for 10mins after disconnecting the power source.

@Everyone
I deviated from LaserSabers coil and used a prewound Bedini trifilar and 15000uf. When I have time I will wind a coil as suggested.

There has been alot of speculation about the schematic on this thread. Attached is my version of the schematic together with LaserSabers original drawing. Enjoy. I hope this helps other replicators.

Be encouraged everyone!

Jonathan

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Congratulations LaserSaber
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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2011, 08:29:44 AM »
@Lattice333,

Can you place your device in a Faraday cage and see if it will work the same way? Let's get this out of the way.

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2011, 11:17:43 AM »
@Lattice333,

Can you place your device in a Faraday cage and see if it will work the same way? Let's get this out of the way.

Sure. I dropped the circuit on a dinner plate and placed it in the microwave oven. Ran just as easily inside the microwave with the door closed.

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Replicated
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2011, 03:19:21 PM »
@Everyone

I tried changing from my 15w spiral CFL to a smaller 8w spiral CFL. The smaller CFL would not light at all and I could hear the HV arcing in several places on the transformer.

I then switched to a larger 25w spiral CFL and it worked best of all. I could then raise the starting voltage higher before arcing began. Also it was brighter and ran for 16 minutes after the power supply was removed.

If you are replicating please try starting with 15+watt CFL. I think the circuit sees a small tube diameter as a resistance. Lasersaber got it to work with a small CFL in the video but his coils used much finer gauge wire than my Bedini trifilar (0.8mm) and probably generate a higher voltage to overcome the additional resistance that a small CFL presents.

I have attached a revised schematic.

Hope this helps!

Jonathan

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Re: Joule Ringer!
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2011, 03:53:29 PM »
Sure. I dropped the circuit on a dinner plate and placed it in the microwave oven. Ran just as easily inside the microwave with the door closed.

Great. Thanks. So, now we have to worry about the power balance. What order of magnitude are the current and the voltage, can you tell?

 

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