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Author Topic: The paradox of overunity  (Read 72740 times)

Offline SchubertReijiMaigo

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2010, 03:07:46 PM »
The true question is, if a device tap into something unlimited like Aether, Time, Gravity, magnetism, whatever you want, can you we call this devices an "overunity device" ? A device can tap into an unlimited source forever, this device is not OU any well... the overunity is APPARENT !!!

A mathematical exemple of this: if divide Infinty/5 = Infinity, if my device can tap 1 KW in an Infinity source, the result is I have 1 KW * Infinity = Infinity KW (over an Infinity of time yet)...
I can also tap an Infinity of power for an Infinity of time the result is Infinity !!! (Infinity*Infinity = Infinity).

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2010, 03:07:46 PM »

Offline Omnibus

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2010, 04:14:26 PM »
The true question is, if a device tap into something unlimited like Aether, Time, Gravity, magnetism, whatever you want, can you we call this devices an "overunity device" ? A device can tap into an unlimited source forever, this device is not OU any well... the overunity is APPARENT !!!

A mathematical exemple of this: if divide Infinty/5 = Infinity, if my device can tap 1 KW in an Infinity source, the result is I have 1 KW * Infinity = Infinity KW (over an Infinity of time yet)...
I can also tap an Infinity of power for an Infinity of time the result is Infinity !!! (Infinity*Infinity = Infinity).

Nevertheless, it's not an OU device.

Offline Gwandau

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2010, 05:04:47 PM »
Nevertheless, it's not an OU device.

Exactly!

Even if you could tap the vacuum infinitesmal, powering our whole planet
with a zero point energy power plant for ever , it's still not over unity.

It is just a very nice way of using the omnipresent energy around us.

Gwandau

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2010, 05:04:47 PM »
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Offline Omnibus

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2010, 05:12:59 PM »
Exactly!

Even if you could tap the vacuum infinitesmal, powering our whole planet
with a zero point energy power plant for ever , it's still not over unity.

It is just a very nice way of using the omnipresent energy around us.

Gwandau

And therefore is of no interest from scientific point of view.

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2010, 08:23:12 PM »
And therefore is of no interest from scientific point of view.
please present your credentials showing you to be the appointed voice for what is interesting to science... ::)

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2010, 08:23:12 PM »
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Offline spinn_MP

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2010, 09:18:26 PM »
Lol...
Wilby, it seems that Omnibot is stepping on your nerves lately?
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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2010, 09:30:38 PM »
Lol...
Wilby, it seems that Omnibot is stepping on your nerves lately?
 :P
another off topic assumption from the spinner... imagine that. ::)

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2010, 09:30:38 PM »
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Offline Omnibus

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2010, 09:50:05 PM »
Now, who the clowns are this time. Don't blame it on Omnibus.

Offline spinn_MP

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2010, 09:57:19 PM »
another off topic assumption from the spinner... imagine that. ::)
Wilby, you are definitely starting to sound like a "broken record"...

Oh, you already knew that? Sorry.

(hurry up to google "broken record", and all the possible relations...)

So, on the funny farm, all is well?
Good to know.




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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2010, 09:57:19 PM »
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Offline Ar-el-es

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2010, 02:39:41 AM »
It's great that most of us are in agreement on the proper definition of overunity but I still think that a free energy device that taps into an unlimited source of energy is still going to be an interest to science.

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2010, 03:17:42 AM »
It's great that most of us are in agreement on the proper definition of overunity but I still think that a free energy device that taps into an unlimited source of energy is still going to be an interest to science.

Such a device is trivial but will have practical application. Any device that taps into a known or unknown (to be discovered or unused so far) energy source is not an OU device.

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2010, 03:17:42 AM »
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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2010, 04:04:46 AM »
Such a device is trivial but will have practical application. Any device that taps into a known or unknown (to be discovered or unused so far) energy source is not an OU device.
you keep using this word 'trivial'... i do not think it means what you think it means.

from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trivial
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triv·i·al
adj \ˈtri-vē-əl\
Definition of TRIVIAL
1: commonplace, ordinary
2a : of little worth or importance <a trivial objection> <trivial problems>
  b : relating to or being the mathematically simplest case; specifically : characterized by having all variables equal to

so are you meaning definition 1 and are saying that such a device is commonplace, ordinary? or are you meaning definition 2a and are saying such a device is of little worth or importance? or are you using an alternate definition?

Offline Omnibus

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2010, 04:19:03 AM »
Both.

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2010, 04:24:57 AM »
Both.
tu stultus es. since this device ("a zero point power plant powering our whole planet") is commonplace, ordinary, why are they not being used everywhere?

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Re: The paradox of overunity
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2010, 04:42:09 AM »
tu stultus es. since this device ("a zero point power plant powering our whole planet") is commonplace, ordinary, why are they not being used everywhere?

There is no such thing as zero point energy. This is a deficiency in quantum mechanics which should be fixed as well as a number of other deficiencies in that otherwise beautifully crafted mathematical system.

 

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