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TinselKoala

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #300 on: January 08, 2011, 03:53:36 PM »
Is this place going anywhere? I would like to see some power generation going on without all the debunking. Is this possible? Wanna put a lid on it OMNI?

So would I. So would all of us, which I believe includes Omnibus. So far, though, the people who are doing "all the debunking" have more facts on their side than those who claim to be generating power. There's one sure way to shut up a debunker for good:

Prove what you claim.

And there's a surefire way to win the OverUnity Prize:

Close the Loop.

This is another thread whose title does not reflect the content. That is, there aren't any selfrunning HHO systems with 400 Watts additional output.

ramset

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #301 on: January 08, 2011, 03:55:38 PM »
TK
You didn't watch Stefans big movie at the top of the Forum?  :o

The one Where the Cell runs the genset which runs the cell and the 400 watts [yes we Know about the load measurement thingy] of lights which runs the cell ,which runs the ............... see above!

WOW, did we just go loop D loo??

Yeah we did !
Thats why we're here!
Its impossible!,or is it....................?

Chet
« Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 05:05:18 PM by ramset »

markdansie

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #302 on: January 08, 2011, 09:44:48 PM »
@TK
you are right, close the loop. No one has claimed the OU prize yet. I am perhaps a skeptic by default. I have seen many devices over the years, many first hand. I have an open mind but where I become one of the skeptics is I have seen good people lose their life savings believing in bogus claims.
The Anton cell and video looks convincing, But they themselves have not made the claim it is is self running but showing the possibilities. We can not be sure without proper testing that a carbon compound was not present in the system so there remains some doubt...but their work is important and good.
I appreciate the efforts of you and many other like Clanzer on replicating and your own research. My hat is of to you.
There are many other people working on the holy grail who are not in the forums and there is some promise.
However until I see the loop closed....I will remain unconvinced.
Many people who have purchased cells like the Anton cell have obviously tried to close the loop..but none to date have successfully replicated what we saw in the video.
I know of a few projects that show promise...but until they are independently proved they will remain behind closed doors.
Mark

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #303 on: January 08, 2011, 11:01:33 PM »
Hi Omnibus,
please stop your arguments and SPAM postings and don´t call it all a fraud here,
otherwise I will set you on Read only.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.(admin)

bolt

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #304 on: January 09, 2011, 03:01:41 AM »
The gas generator they are using is made by United Power. They are Chinese and sold virtually all over the world.

Here is a larger one in the UK from ebay its excellent value for money. Even if you don't loop it then you always have a standby genset for freak weather, snow, floods, hurricanes etc.

http://tinyurl.com/2w74zdr

Here is an excellent dry cell its very close to Anton. Who came first? Don't know but its cost 1/4 of the price of Anton. Just the 316 plates alone will cost 80% of the total cost then you still need to spend hours trying to build it. Without decent machine tools it will be crap so just buy a professional machined cell.

http://tinyurl.com/2u7pexp

Im up to about 300 euro/pounds so far for this setup. The large starting PSU is NOT required. Use a FWBR and a run cap to provide 1kw or whatever you need cost about 10 bucks/euro/pounds

So for less than 500 you have a system. Still got 200 left to make the spark control and fittings. Anyone got any money or did you blow it on HD TV's over xmas?

"you are right, close the loop. No one has claimed the OU prize yet. "

The loop already been closed!  Actually most people wont bother claiming the prize. For a start its only what about 15k so far. Most of it is in pledges from years ago. As with most pledges half wont pay out when the time comes even large charity events only see fractions of pledges by people made the SAME week so its about a 7-10k prize due to the hassle of producing copy units, shipping units is not cheap with dealing with gensets, motors and the like and having crucial hardware tied up with tests for months. So its better if you have something you improve it and just sell it and make more money ready for your next batch. This is exactly what these guys are doing  once its stable enough. I very much doubt they will ever apply for the prize its not like posting a Joule Thief in a jiffy bag.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2011, 04:52:15 AM by bolt »

Hope

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #305 on: January 09, 2011, 09:08:06 PM »
Seems like that NASA paper likes fuel reformers directly converting a reactive solution into hydroxy anyone could mix.   Perhaps the Pantrone fuel reformers additional input had a purpose originally.   Just a thought since I have a new genset and made a J. L. Naudin model of the fuel reformer (Proof of concept model, up to 10HP).   I hate to test anything till spring time.  The island loses power in the winter and we are a family here..  but I may get brave,
this system may be the best to date on efficiency.  So lets consider it's value in the real arena of "can use now" technologies.    The generator is 1,200 watts    and i will keep it at that description till it is of worth noting   and it is a 2 cycle.   

Doctor No

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #306 on: January 09, 2011, 09:12:21 PM »
Because population is becoming more dumb, brainwashed by TV, behaving like herd of mentally disabled consumers driven by media. Values are no more. Regards,
pix
According to what You had written many times against my technologies, i think You are right. You are completely brain washed!;-]  But after national socialism wins in Poland, Your brain will be feeded with much more as only 400 W of power.                  You and others can this easily to prove.      On 22.01 on Bydgoszcz politechnic (Politechnische Hochschule) will be presentation held of: series ready DRJ200.11 CNF >100% OU reactor, prototype of DRJ600.11 350% OU reactor, and  later outside town, some kms away, parts of our own "Star Wars" (Sternchen Kriege) elements ready to use!:-(     For more info, please call only: 0048-790 818 838 8-10 pm only till this Friday. www.nsppp.bloog.pl 

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #307 on: January 09, 2011, 09:24:19 PM »
How is the generator lubricated? Its a 2-cycle if I am not mistaken so it needs a fuel / oil mix.

-Altrez

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #308 on: January 09, 2011, 09:28:28 PM »
Oh dear.. Mr. Nowak (that retard Neo-Nazi) is still kicking?
How typical for this site. And, very typical for the site owner, Stefan, "DA OU MAN"... Jeeeez...

By the time you'll be all able to recognise the fault, it will be too late...









Hope

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #309 on: January 09, 2011, 09:29:00 PM »
Chet you all are on to the real picture here.  We have been trying to prevent certain reactions, but should have been controlling "where" these reactions occure instead.   The copper/mag beads maybe sourceable.  Plenty of room inprocess for those critters.   Copper screens / SS316 Screens  trapping compacted 3.2-millimeter-long (0. 125-in. -long) pellets of manganese and copper.   That rethinking the HHO on demand with insolution metal (stainless) still fits this model.

Doctor No

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #310 on: January 09, 2011, 09:49:39 PM »
How is the generator lubricated? Its a 2-cycle if I am not mistaken so it needs a fuel / oil mix.

-Altrez
Yes, really, heat production is not all this machine can do. It can stay for chemistry use, oil industry, heavy water production and more.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #311 on: January 09, 2011, 09:52:17 PM »
Yes, really, heat production is not all this machine can do. It can stay for chemistry use, oil industry, heavy water production and more.
Fantastic... Good for your party.

Idiot!

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #312 on: January 09, 2011, 10:19:16 PM »
I think, You are some light years away from real XXI century technologies. But try to catch with Obama bin Laden (vel: Osama del Barrack). I^ve heard, that guy has more advanced technologies. Some will be given Angela Merken (zu spate);-]

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #313 on: January 09, 2011, 10:28:56 PM »
Yes, really, heat production is not all this machine can do. It can stay for chemistry use, oil industry, heavy water production and more.

I am sorry perhaps what I asked was lost in translation. A 2-cycle engine normally requires the use of an oil / fuel mixture to keep the generator running correctly. Are you saying that your generator is configured to allow it to be ran and lubricated without the use of any oil or lubricant in the fuel, for the 2-cycle engine?

-Altrez

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #314 on: January 09, 2011, 10:34:08 PM »
i was wondering the same thing.

I was already wondering if it was a four stroke engine.
If it indeed is a two stroke engine it needs oil and it will produce some smoke from burning the oil even when it is running on hydrogen.