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Author Topic: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output  (Read 300960 times)

Offline bolt

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #285 on: January 07, 2011, 05:07:11 AM »
So basically you are saying Tesla, Kapanadze, the TPU, Sweet VTA and at least a dozen other devices are all hoax? if you believe that then honestly WHY are you here. Its totally illogical. Most people are here not to pass judgment hopeful they got pass the stage now of if OU exist or not and are going through a self learning stage to replicate something themselves within the budget they have available. Its on going research for the best method of energy transformation. If its HHO or magnet motors who cares its all possible.

 Even a 10Kw Solar system is not FREE sunlight, the idea sounds great but its gonna cost you about $20,000.

FREE energy is expensive so you want it you pay for it. If you don't believe it then walk away.

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Offline Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #286 on: January 07, 2011, 05:41:02 AM »
Well, I'm really amazed why you wonder I'm here. It is certainly not because of the likes of Kapanadze, hoaxer as he actually is. Not for Tesla too. Tesla's only contribution is the implementation of the AC current. I don't see anything else, especially with regard to OU, that is worth spending time on as far as Tesla goes. TPU deserves more study. Valery Ivanov's may be interesting. I visited him a couple of times but last year he (his wife rather) refused to meet with a bunch of us willing to do some measurements. Mind you, one of them, a very knowledgeable expert, is trying to replicate his machine. I don't know about the sweet VTA, haven't followed it. I have some other experience such as, visiting the Kinetica's supposed show by Steorn in London, visiting Reidar Finsrud near Oslo or Veljko Milkovic in Novi Sad let alone Water Torbay here in New York City and so on and so forth. And that is only recently. No much to report though, except for my own analyses which prove indisputably that there is OU. I don't know what more to say. The guy we're discussing has nothing resembling OU and many others too and he's just making up stories.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #287 on: January 07, 2011, 05:55:28 AM »
Just visiting people doesn't make you an authority on what an OU device looks like does it?

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #287 on: January 07, 2011, 05:55:28 AM »
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Offline Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #288 on: January 07, 2011, 09:24:04 AM »
All,

The non-technical part of my last post was intended to draw BLOOD! 
Wow, it certainly did!!
I laid a trap and Omni fell into it with both feet!
No kidding! 

At this point, perhaps I should tell you that I spent more than 10 years of my life on INTENSE studies of the “system”, “law”, the legal system, the “con-stitution”, banking, the so-called “economy”, “taxation”, true history, religions, spirituality, psychology, etc., etc.
Thus, I know EXACTLY how the monkeys working for the “system” operate and I also gained the ability to make people reveal their true nature and intentions, without realizing that they are exposing themselves!

Don’t worry, I will not bother you with this material again.
(Perhaps in an other thread but only if requested!)

So what did Omni reveal??

If you are not sure, just go back and re-read his last few posts.
He is nothing more than a professional (paid??) DEBUNKER and SABOTEUR who, while pretending to be genuinely interested in OU, is desperately trying to STOP all progress in the field of  “free energy” research.

Please note his clever play on words:  he is clinging to the OU definition and the desperate need to remain in control while not a word about free energy!
Even when confronted with evidence of the existence of free energy, (see bolt’s posts) he is in desperate DENIAL!

Again, he INSISTS (just read his post again!) that ONLY “investor’s” money is to be used - but ONLY with the approval of  “authority” - simply because that way, investors, and investors ONLY, will decide which product will be allowed to be marketed!!

That is why he VIOLENTLY opposes the use of private money because that means the END of the financial control by you know whom!
Clever?  Not really.
If I can see all this, I am sure others can too.

bolt, MrMag, Chet & others,

Thanks for your support but don’t worry about me. 
Every time I stepped on some toes in the past, I have been called various names. 
I am used to it.  Part of the game called LIFE!  (Actually, it amuses me!)

Well, just for the hell of it, please ANALYZE my last post.
Did I claim that I had/have closed loop systems for sale??
(I wish that was the case.  However, IF it was, I would probably not be here right now, posting all this, would I???)
Further, did I reveal anywhere in that post WHICH product(s) I built my business on???
Oh, you can’t find it?   Small wonder, I never wrote it!

So where did Omni find all that which were never there in the first place?
Desperation requires desperate means. 
He made them up in the vague hope that they would not be noticed.

Bad luck Omni!
You have been busted!

I am finished with this issue and my next post will be technical only….promise….!

Best regards to all and enjoy the show!

Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #289 on: January 07, 2011, 09:36:22 AM »
I have nothing against raising money from investors or taking donations or what have you provided you very very clearly explain that you do not have a self-sustaining system but you will use their money towards research aimed at achieving that goal. You absolutely do not promise them ROI or any other financial return because in the end it may turn out that you have not achieved your goal. It people are willing to give you money under these conditions all power to you. That's a fair play. You, however, claim to have something you do not have and, like I said, rely on the gullability of people that are not in the know but can easily be manipulated by hearsay. You've studied the law aspects of such behavior and I don't think any state condones it. On the contrary, it is known that there are a number of cases both in the US and abroad when such swindlers have been held accountable for such behavior. Perendev comes to mind as one recent case or, earler, Dennis Lee. This type of behavior is the real impediment to progress not when reminding that milking investors shoild be a big no-no in the OU community.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #289 on: January 07, 2011, 09:36:22 AM »
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Offline neptune

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #290 on: January 07, 2011, 12:30:39 PM »
@Omnibus .By and large I agree with much of what you say . You appear to be a well educated man ,but trust me , don't even consider a career in the Diplomatic Service . Maybe we ought to have a collection to send you to Charm School . If these 500 watt OU devices are really out there we shall know very soon . Even in wartime , it is very difficult to keep secrets in spite of the vast resources available . If this is fact it would be the story of the millennium . Any journalist would swim the pacific for this story . Only problem I can see is the first rule of journalism . Never let facts stand in the way of a good story .

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #291 on: January 07, 2011, 01:01:20 PM »
Is this place going anywhere? I would like to see some power generation going on without all the debunking. Is this possible? Wanna put a lid on it OMNI?

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #291 on: January 07, 2011, 01:01:20 PM »
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Online ramset

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #292 on: January 07, 2011, 01:41:45 PM »
bolt
150.00 bucks for the genny?Have you got a link?

Chet

GEEEEZ................
Omni ,I have a proposal,not a business proposal,an Open source venue.
I realise from your posts that we are almost neighbors.
I have traveled by car whenever possible to meet men that claim to have OU devices.also calling folks whenever possible.
I see you do this also [on a grander scale]
Start to think about a replication attempt .Nothing all consuming ,I have the skills to build this as demonstrated by Oliver,We have others here who would no doubt assist "Technically",
An open invite to you to build an open source replication,I am not looking to "Run the Show".
I am presently up to my eyeballs in getting my prototype to market [I build purpose built living aids[furniture] for handicapped children].
but we should talk sometime .
Give it a good think!
Chetkremens@gmail.com
« Last Edit: January 07, 2011, 03:44:16 PM by ramset »

Offline Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #293 on: January 07, 2011, 09:49:03 PM »
bolt
150.00 bucks for the genny?Have you got a link?

Chet

GEEEEZ................
Omni ,I have a proposal,not a business proposal,an Open source venue.
I realise from your posts that we are almost neighbors.
I have traveled by car whenever possible to meet men that claim to have OU devices.also calling folks whenever possible.
I see you do this also [on a grander scale]
Start to think about a replication attempt .Nothing all consuming ,I have the skills to build this as demonstrated by Oliver,We have others here who would no doubt assist "Technically",
An open invite to you to build an open source replication,I am not looking to "Run the Show".
I am presently up to my eyeballs in getting my prototype to market [I build purpose built living aids[furniture] for handicapped children].
but we should talk sometime .
Give it a good think!
Chetkremens@gmail.com

I'm all for this kind of cooperation but this particular project requires substantial infrastructure which I don't have at this point. It has always been on my mind to do research in this area but I've put in the back burner for the time being and am focusing more on gravity and magnetic motors as well as the study of the RC circuit I reported on several occasions here. Hope to be able to post some new results in the near future. As for the HHO reasearch, I'll continue paying attention to what's going on and hope to be in touch so at some point we could do more than just discuss it theoretically.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #293 on: January 07, 2011, 09:49:03 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #294 on: January 07, 2011, 11:11:06 PM »
Omni
Well as you know I like magnets [called Calloway also].
And there is that Landon Jr. fellow down by me ,I forget his first name ,but had a self runner I went to see, However he was going for the Gold.

Perhaps I'll go see him again and see how the fame and fortune route is working out.

Good to know your open to these types of collaborations.
And I believe we have a few other open source engineers up in this Northeast corrider.

Thanks
Chet

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #295 on: January 07, 2011, 11:13:53 PM »
Omni
Well as you know I like magnets [called Calloway also].
And there is that Landon Jr. fellow down by me ,I forget his first name ,but had a self runner I went to see, However he was going for the Gold.

Perhaps I'll go see him again and see how the fame and fortune route is working out.

Good to know your open to these types of collaborations.
And I believe we have a few other open source engineers up in this Northeast corrider.

Thanks
Chet

Did you actually see the self-runner running or it was again promises, promises ... ?

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #295 on: January 07, 2011, 11:13:53 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #296 on: January 07, 2011, 11:26:06 PM »
Is that him: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bill_Landon_Jr._Magnet_Motor ? So, "he is hoping an entrepreneur will come along to fund to create a working model." So, he actually doesn't have a working model but is hoping that an entrepreneur will pop-up out of the blue and will fund him, right? Is that a joke or what?

I thought you might wanna open a special thread to discuss that but what is there to discuss?

EDIT: So, see what we got here: http://www.rexresearch.com/landon/landon.htm
"Landon flicks the rotor and it spins for several minutes."

Again, is that some kind of joke or the guy thinks everybody else is stupid?

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #297 on: January 07, 2011, 11:56:44 PM »
Well,
I'm trying to finish up in the shop for a supper break.
He's a nice guy actually ,spent several hours at his home,We have a thread here somewhere?.
Gotta go
Chet

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #298 on: January 08, 2011, 07:42:54 AM »
bolt
150.00 bucks for the genny?Have you got a link?

Chet


No not 150 bucks what do you think really?  Production started in late November in VERY small numbers small team workshop. Quite a lot like magnacoaster and not so different in concept. Price im told is $15,000 for 500 watt device. I cant say any more about it because the guy wants to stay low key for now at least. 

Hey have you seen a 5Hp  3 phase motor RV motor drive a 5Hp 3 phase alternator before its looped and the total idle power it consumes just 15 watts?  That is the same power as a Xmas light  to turn 200 pound of machinery at 2900 rpm. Anyone can do it.  With a 15 watts as a loss do you think it cant be looped? You bet it can i see this myself  4 years ago.

Here is another guy just getting into this stuff and he is doing very well. I/p power is about 20-24 watts on 7.5 HP motors.  Like the HHO system despite the losses on friction and power conversion this is loop-able and a lot quieter:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkmLKjZNSSc
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #299 on: January 08, 2011, 03:31:16 PM »
bolt
Quote:
Thread is 18 pages now and no sign of replications yet! Has anyone gone out and bought a Chinese gentset only cost about 150 bucks and got this working?
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Thats the Genset I was refering to [Anton]
Gotta Link?

Thanks for the Movie!
Chet
PS
The above post was also the inspiration for asking my Nieghbor {Omni]
if he wanted to do a Joint replication attempt [its cheap to do].

 

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