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Author Topic: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output  (Read 300709 times)

Offline Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #270 on: January 07, 2011, 04:10:11 AM »
I agree with the way you are proceeding. It's the best way to go about it without investing/borrowing. Omni is just jealous. If he doesn't like it or believe it, don't buy one.

That's the philosophy of a fraudster, especially when it comes to OU machines.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #271 on: January 07, 2011, 04:12:16 AM »
Omnibus i think you are a bit mistaken. A customer is driven by results not tests. Someone buys a new car they are not so interested in exhaust emissions tests, exact round town MPG or exact BPH on the wheels they jump in a drive it. An hour later come back and say "yes please i have one" Garage says ok but you need to put down a deposit and we get one factory ordered.

Self running devices are real they existed for a long time. Doesn't really matter if you believer it or not. If it goes totally against the grain of your thought pattern then you are in the wrong forum. I seen several OU runners including looped motor gensets live over skype and that was about 4 years ago now. Not forgetting the TPU, Kapanadaze, looped water pump man etc.

I actually know of a small production facility RIGHT NOW making 500w looped motor generators for outback remote locations. They are sold on a referral basis after people see it running lighting up the place, watching tv etc then they put down 5k deposit. 10k balance paid on completion and they get full support should anything go wrong. Please don't ask where Im not able to say. The team wants to keep it low key and serve only local people he don't want international trolls causing trouble. Eventually it will become known after there is so many in use it will become self evident and well established.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #272 on: January 07, 2011, 04:16:18 AM »
That's the problem. The average customer is unable to judge whether or not the reasults are real. There are many seeming OU devices which in fact are not OU. The seller of such devices is not supposed to be some kind of magician extracting money from gullible customers "seeing results" while these result are actually hocus-pocus. This is a very destructive trend in the OU community and it is used a lot by various parties to the great detrement of the whole OU movement.

The guy here has no self-running HHO, he is deceiving his customers to make a profit off of their ignorance and, like I said, if he disagrees, he should submit his device for assessment to parties who know how to test it for OU. If he doesn't know who these parties are there are people here who can help him in this respect.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #272 on: January 07, 2011, 04:16:18 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #273 on: January 07, 2011, 04:25:22 AM »
If you are MILES from anywhere and off grid and a small unit provides constant 500 watts on a trusting neighbor referral basis with full technical support it doesn't get much better than that.  Its self evident the house is it lit up and you watch TV. 

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #274 on: January 07, 2011, 04:29:36 AM »
That's the problem. The average customer is unable to judge whether or not the reasults are real. There are many seeming OU devices which in fact are not OU. The seller of such devices is not supposed to be some kind of magician extracting money from gullible customers "seeing results" while these result are actually hocus-pocus. This is a very destructive trend in the OU community and it is used a lot by various parties to the great detrement of the whole OU movement.

The guy here has no self-running HHO, he is deceiving his customers to make a profit off of their ignorance and, like I said, if he disagrees, he should submit his device for assessment to parties who know how to test it for OU. If he doesn't know who these parties are there are people here who can help him in this respect.

Do you have proof of your claim that he does not have a working device? He does not need to submit his device for assessment. If you want one, buy one. If you don't, stay away from it. Even if he didn't need the money to produce them don't you think it would be a good idea to ask for a deposit? Everything you buy of substantial cost requires a deposit.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #274 on: January 07, 2011, 04:29:36 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #275 on: January 07, 2011, 04:33:27 AM »
That's the philosophy of a fraudster, especially when it comes to OU machines.

I don't know if his unit works or not but my comment is based on good business practice. I don't like being called a fraud, especially from someone who doesn't know me and I don't think you really want to get into that.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #276 on: January 07, 2011, 04:33:51 AM »
If you are MILES from anywhere and off grid and a small unit provides constant 500 watts on a trusting neighbor referral basis with full technical support it doesn't get much better than that.  Its self evident the house is it lit up and you watch TV.

This is your supposition. There's no such thing going and the "trudting neighbor" suggestion is just wishful thinking. One better would be for him to offer the device for free for a period of a year or so and see if the customer will indeed get the constant 500W coming and then sell him the device. That would be fair when OU device is being sold. Otherwise it's a hoax. Take the money and run. By the way, I didn't hear about a money-back guarantee.

Listen, like I said, the guy has no such device working as an OU one and he's just pulling our leg. Period.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #276 on: January 07, 2011, 04:33:51 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #277 on: January 07, 2011, 04:37:03 AM »
You know what really piss's me off Omni
When you call Les a  Fraudster ,Right out of the clear blue sky you call a man a Fraudster.

You might be from NY ,but the part I come from ,you talk to a man you don't even know like that,POW!right in the kisser!

You should get some manners!

Chet

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #278 on: January 07, 2011, 04:41:32 AM »
You know what really piss's me off Omni
When you call Les a  Fraudster ,Right out of the clear blue sky you call a man a Fraudster.

You might be from NY ,but the part I come ,you talk to a man you don't even know like that,POW!right in the kisser!

You should get some manners!

Chet

Yes, he is an outright fraudster. I don't need to know the guy to know that anybody who sells OU machines and makes profit off of it is a fraudster par excellence. Like I said, I'd love to be proven wrong. Let him submit his machine, prior to selling it, to a knowledgeable experts (not to a customer after extracting his money) who can prove it's OU and then I'll eat my words. At this moment he is nothing but a person perpetrating a hoax for personal gain.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #278 on: January 07, 2011, 04:41:32 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #279 on: January 07, 2011, 04:46:43 AM »
Every new piece of technology has a large startup cost. NO ONE can afford to give you something for a year for proof. I don't know the warranty details its not the point. When the first cars came out people thought the idea of a horseless carriage was nuts. People asked where the hay goes. Didn't take long before a wealthy neighbor bought one and it soon catches on after people realize it needs gas not hay and can travel faster and further than a horse. Did they give them a free trial run for a year? Hell NO.

Remember how much CD players cost the first year on the market? They were like 1500 each. After like 90 years of playing vinyl it was quite a mental jump in technology and mindset yet there was no shortage of people that went out and bought one full price.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #280 on: January 07, 2011, 04:53:33 AM »
One better would be for him to offer the device for free for a period of a year or so and see if the customer will indeed get the constant 500W coming and then sell him the device. That would be fair when OU device is being sold. Otherwise it's a hoax.

OK. So he can't ask for investors or he's a fraud. He also can't ask for a deposit, or he's a fraud. You think he should offer the device for free for one year before paying for it.

Tell me, where is he suppose to get the money to buy the parts and build these devices. I guess shipping and installation should be free too.

You sound a lot like a disinformation agent. You just don't want to see anyone succeed.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #281 on: January 07, 2011, 04:53:55 AM »
Every new piece of technology has a large startup cost. NO ONE can afford to give you something for a year for proof. I don't know the warranty details its not the point. When the first cars came out people thought the idea of a horseless carriage was nuts. People asked where the hay goes. Didn't take long before a wealthy neighbor bought one and it soon catches on after people realize it needs gas not hay and can travel faster and further than a horse. Did they give them a free trial run for a year? Hell NO.

Remember how much CD players cost the first year on the market? They were like 1500 each. After like 90 years of playing vinyl it was quite a mental jump in technology and mindset yet there was no shortage of people that went out and bought one full price.

You are comparing apples and oranges. Not even apples with oranges but apples and unicorns. Please understand that all you've mentioned is foreseeable. It does not violate basic principles of science. Not one bit. Neighbors might not have known it but knowledgeable people knew it full well back then. Not so with OU. OU is not foreseeable and it is not for your neighbors to tell you it's there even if they venture to.

As for the startup cost. Tough. You can'e excuse fraud because startup cost is high. Especially regarding a controversial issue such as OU. The most controversial issue there is, I should say. That's immoral to do no matter how little money you have. Many do it but it doesn't make it more moral. Anybody making a profit off of an OU device at this point is a fraud by default.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #282 on: January 07, 2011, 04:55:53 AM »
Omni
You are anonymous to us,you have a handle and no real name,
You know my name Its no secret,you know Les's name ,no secret.
pleaes be more considerate of a man and his reputation,

Chet

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #283 on: January 07, 2011, 04:58:58 AM »
Omni
You are anonymous to us,you have a handle and no real name,
You know my name Its no secret,you know Les's name ,no secret.
pleaes be more considerate of a man and his reputation,

Chet

Whay are you blaming me?. He is ruining his own reputation all by himself.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #284 on: January 07, 2011, 05:01:46 AM »
By the way, do you know of any satisfied customers of his that can be contacted? So far it's only his side of the story we're hearing.

 

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