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Author Topic: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output  (Read 319207 times)

Offline dasimpson

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #210 on: December 29, 2010, 03:41:04 PM »
Actually I think you are right on that one...after tdc for knock and if you go before tdc it is simply because when you installed your rotor you might have been off a tooth. It would still run but would idle roughly. The only other situation where I think the electronic timing would come in play is on an engine  that was built using lean burn technology... Chrysler was big on this in the eighties.

or an engine that has knock detection

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #211 on: December 29, 2010, 03:42:56 PM »
tuning a geny is prob easyer then a car engine as a geny engine does not raise and fall in revs all the time i guess the best way to keep the engine stable would be to have a battery charge on it charging batterys then run eveything from inverters etc

Offline altrez

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #212 on: December 29, 2010, 06:23:51 PM »
I am digging the concept. Is there perhaps a detailed parts list with suppliers available somewhere?

-Altrez

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #212 on: December 29, 2010, 06:23:51 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #213 on: December 29, 2010, 07:08:17 PM »
Oh well
« Last Edit: December 29, 2010, 09:39:18 PM by h2ocommuter »

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #214 on: December 29, 2010, 08:06:36 PM »
I'm not sure weather that is in relation to a comment I posted but I thought I'll add this. The reason that you have the ability to change the electronic timing on an engine is to prevent engine knock... it has to do with the octane of gasoline. If the compression ratio is too high you get knock. If you set the spark to a point in the timing when full compression has not been reached then knock is eliminated because by the time that point is reached some of the fuel has been burned and some heat has been released to create better conditions for the remainder of the fuel mixture to burn more efficiently. 

Hydrogen of all fuels has the highest octane rating and is immune to causing engine knock so it is really unnecessary.  If there is any other reason for changing the timing in this manner... I don't see it but hey... I don't know everything. My dad is a mechanic of fifty years so I have learned from one of the best!
I thought that hydrogen had the lowest octane (?) It burns very fast. The higher the octane are, the slower the gasoline burns, but provides more energy than a lower octane gasoline. Maybe I'm wrong.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #214 on: December 29, 2010, 08:06:36 PM »
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Offline h2ocommuter

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #215 on: December 29, 2010, 08:15:46 PM »

suit yourself
« Last Edit: December 29, 2010, 09:35:31 PM by h2ocommuter »

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #216 on: December 29, 2010, 08:35:24 PM »
Detonation, knocking, pinging are all simptions of preignition....
meaning the fuel is being ignighted by compression not the spark plug timing.

all diesels are caused to run by combustion not spark. except for the low compression diesels that are started only by glowplugs.

diesel fuel is a combustion fuel,
Gas is an ignition fuel.

overlaping of these system of behavior does happen.. from time to time...  Higher ocation will not as easily pingi or detonate before ignition in gas engines.

Jet engines are combustion fuel users.... there fuel is much like corosene and diesel


i would like to see the information about hydrogen as an innert, unflamable gas having 130 octain???/

On the other hand: As the quality of "hydroxy" gas being produced are improved the potency of the explosion goes higher to a large degree. so.......? how is a set octain of 130 the associated value .

please explain.

Zane
incorrect zane. detonation, knocking and pinging are the same thing, and none of them are symptoms of pre-ignition. all of them basically being an off time combustion of the air/fuel mixture. pre-ignition is something else entirely, it is when the air/fuel mixture ignites before the spark plug arcs. this can be effected many ways. for example, a spark plug running too hot, hot spots in the combustion chamber, etc. pre-ignition is also known as 'run-on' or 'dieseling'.

@ anyone interested in HHO powered ICE's... learn how an ICE works on the fuel it was designed for before you go changing the fuel and your chances of success will increase exponentially.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #216 on: December 29, 2010, 08:35:24 PM »
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Offline h2ocommuter

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #217 on: December 29, 2010, 09:20:41 PM »

Please refrain

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #218 on: December 29, 2010, 09:30:43 PM »
How funny, you are incorragible.

Off time combustion! I say! 

Again simple semantics.

oh please lead by example.  you have got the posts to prove you could be a leader.

Don' try to act like you're saying anything useful. that causes you to look like an idiot.
it's not semantics... you were/are wrong. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_knocking
then see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_knocking#Pre-ignition

detonation (aka knocking or pinging) is symptomatic of the peak of the combustion process no longer occurring at the optimum moment . run-on or dieseling is symptomatic of pre-ignition. detonation and pre-ignition are two different phenomena.

correcting your errors is useful to others who may be misguided by you... try reading the first paragraph of the first wiki link i posted. pay close attention to the last sentence...  ::)

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #218 on: December 29, 2010, 09:30:43 PM »
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Offline altrez

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #219 on: December 29, 2010, 11:17:10 PM »
indeed WilbyInebriated  is correct in this. I might be mistaken but that's how I understand it.

-Altrez

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #220 on: December 30, 2010, 04:57:37 AM »
@Oliver,
many thanks for your reply.
You have my curiosity as i understand the H and The O but where is the N comming from.
Kind Regards
Mark

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #220 on: December 30, 2010, 04:57:37 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #221 on: December 30, 2010, 07:36:34 AM »
If this is the real deal 2011 will indeed be a great year.  :) We know from S. Meyer's work that it is possible. I wish you guys all the best!!

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #222 on: December 30, 2010, 04:21:51 PM »
The wrong use of established knowledge as if it were a religion is what  bothers the most
...

This wrong use is not that from scientists but from believers in science who do not not understand science. They are several here. They want to prove OU using (erroneously) some laws of physics!   :D

Religion, faith and superstitions are always based on ignorance. It is the knowledge that enlightens the minds but only the mind of those who are studying, working and making the effort to understand.


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #223 on: December 30, 2010, 04:59:32 PM »
This wrong use is not that from scientists but from believers in science who do not not understand science. They are several here. They want to prove OU using (erroneously) some laws of physics!   :D

Religion, faith and superstitions are always based on ignorance. It is the knowledge that enlightens the minds but only the mind of those who are studying, working and making the effort to understand.

Don't spam the thread.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #224 on: December 30, 2010, 05:04:51 PM »
If using distilled water, would not contamination be contained.  The only way to get N would be the chemical one adds to water?  It does not appear to me to be enough in the atmosphere to create any meaningful amount.

 

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