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questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #165 on: December 28, 2010, 05:14:52 AM »
@questioneverything

let me ask a question?  or two ......

First, present scientific theory suggests that electromagnetism is the basic building blocks of the Universe and science.  Electricity and magnetism.  The question is what if there is actually a third?

Something that Stan Meyer, Nikoli Tesla(who I named my first born son after), and even you have alluded to, even fast freddie, as well as many in the effort to create amazing results.

I personally do not believe in over-unity.  However I do believe we have not discover all there is to know about energy and how it may be harnessed.   I have studied forum after forum, book after book, inventor after inventer, pioneer after pioneer and have come to one simple conclusion.  We are missing a chunk of the puzzle.  Men like Tesla and Meyer only proved that we do not have all the facts to prove that for every action there is an opposite an equal reaction.  How did they create an action that proved the reaction?

I have read every single post on this thread.  Amazing results on the trolley from lab to elevator, to ....    The naysayers and the proponents.  Everyone has an opinion.  You see what is on the trolley, build your own.  Prove or disprove.  Test and ask questions.

Some folks only wish to rip apart other folks research.  Ignore them.  Some folks wish to share their research,  share back with them.  Some folks wish to share overviews but not detail, try to replicate on your own.  Try yourself, and fail or succeed, but try.

I am build a 80 cell "brick" presently.  If it performs for size and current it will put my chevy suburban at 50 miles per gallon.  No it is not pure HHO, but it saves me enough to pay for some more research into HHO.

There is no third energy in the sense you speak of. That proverbial 3rd rail is actually a combination of the other 2. It is in effect a virtual 3rd rail.

First, it's Nikola, not Nikoli. Look at any of the old documents with his signature.

We do have that missing puzzle piece, but the establishment will not allow us to use it. It is to threatening to their very existence. It's why Tesla has been all but erased from history. They don't want people to realize their true potential to crack mother natures riddles.

You can not see the truth of that 3rd rail because your looking at it from the wrong angle. The entire universe and life it's self are a duality, two, but if you bring the 2 together in 1 system you get 3. This is where I wind up questioning....what if 2+2 isn't 4, what if it's actually 22?

I quit dealing with water based experiments when I lost control of a submerged plasma spark that drove the water temp to super-heated in a matter of seconds. It is way to dangerous for me to even want to continue so I started focusing on electromagnetism, and discovered that virtual 3rd rail when studying a car alternator that I had removed the coils from the stator in.

Later on I found out that it was originaly a discovery made my Tesla, but never documented, so it kindda killed that ME feeling, but it is sound.

There are 3 ways to disprove over unity. Efficiency, free energy word play, perpetual motion word play.

But only 1 way to prove it. Co-efficient of performance, or C.O.P.

Efficiency is a rating of losses in any given system, NOTHING is free even if it's so close the line is blured, and NOTHING can run forever. Batteries break down and die, machines break down and fail, and time deteriorates all things.

But C.O.P. rates total energy out compaired to what YOU YOURSELF supply. If you supply 1/2 energy input and the other 1/2 comes from the environment (earth batteries, solar, wind, radiant, water...ect) that YOU didn't supply, you get a C.O.P. of 2 in a perfect system. THEN 1 can run the system in a closed loop while 1 is free to utilize.

If you want to know EXACTLY how to do this, email me and I will send non-disclosure and non-circumvention agreements. This is just to ensure people keep their mouths shut so the wrong people don't catch wind of it indirectly.

The forms are from a company in another state, but I will be whiting out their info and filling in mine. Already had 1 guy splitting hairs about this. His loss.

babygirl8181980@gmail.com

Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #166 on: December 28, 2010, 05:26:05 AM »


@Les Banki
Thank you sir for sharing that info[reposted below],I will be sure to study

Chet

ramset (Chet),

I am pleased that at least ONE person (you) is prepared to spend a few minutes to read/study those files!

I write these very detailed circuit descriptions mainly for the benefit of others but they also serve to refresh my own memory.
As the years pass, my designs getting more and more complex.
Sometimes I need to look at a design which I have done perhaps a year (or more) ago and I find myself scratching my head:
"How the hell is THIS supposed to work?"

A quick read of my own description and I 'get it'!
Further, these descriptions have another, very important purpose!
They save me repeatedly answering a LOT of questions!
Now, when someone is asking a question, I can simply say:
Please read my thesis on the subject and/or the circuit description!

Since no circuit description will make any sense without the circuit diagram(s), I have attached the ones related to the ignition/injection process.

Please keep in mind that these circuits are already working but they will be altered (and circuit descriptions edited) in order to match the feed-back loop I am in the process of designing.

The MAIN change will be to try to run the ignition/injection sections on a 5V supply since ONE device (Digital Potentiometer) is rated at only 5V. (All the other ICs work happily on 12V!)

More about this later....

helmut,

Thanks for your post.  My sentiments exactly.....!!
Oh, don't worry about your English, it is perfectly understandable! 
(English is NOT my native tongue either but my 5th language....)

questioneverything,

"I'm an ASE trained mechanic, exactly what is the state of ignition flame front and it's behavior at the moment of ignition?"

How would I know?  I am not a mechanic....javascript:void(0);
Just kidding!

In his last post on this thread Stefan was/is SPOT ON pointing out that HHO does not burn but DETONATES!
In case you don't know this, the detonation speed of good quality Hydroxy (HHO, Brown's Gas, whatever name you care to put on it)
is somewhere between 3000m to 10000m per second, depending on certain factors.
Due to this PHENOMENAL speed, the kinetic energy is ENORMOUS!!
Unfortunately for us, we are only able to utilize a small fraction of it!
At atmospheric pressure, even a very low energy static spark is enough to detonate this gas!
These factors seem to be overlooked by the 'skeptics' and the "know-all" armchair 'experts'!

C.O.P. of 1 is considered unity. Need I remind you that your houses heat/AC pump operates between 3-4?

Solar, wind, and hydroelectric are considered C.O.P. infinity systems. 1 simple fact people keep over looking to try to push there misconceptions on truly open minds. You on an over unity forum trying to say over unity isn't real.

Doesn't that seem kindda redundant and stupid? Who the hell are you to say the world top quantum physicists are liars?

Excellent!!

All,

Please have a close look at this topic/thread!
Since it was started by Stefan a few days ago, only a few posts are on topic!
The rest is bickering about definitions, name calling, etc.
I rest my case....

Best regards to all,
Les Banki






questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #167 on: December 28, 2010, 05:45:08 AM »
questioneverything,

"I'm an ASE trained mechanic, exactly what is the state of ignition flame front and it's behavior at the moment of ignition?"

How would I know?  I am not a mechanic....javascript:void(0);
Just kidding!

In his last post on this thread Stefan was/is SPOT ON pointing out that HHO does not burn but DETONATES!
In case you don't know this, the detonation speed of good quality Hydroxy (HHO, Brown's Gas, whatever name you care to put on it)
is somewhere between 3000m to 10000m per second, depending on certain factors.
Due to this PHENOMENAL speed, the kinetic energy is ENORMOUS!!
Unfortunately for us, we are only able to utilize a small fraction of it!
At atmospheric pressure, even a very low energy static spark is enough to detonate this gas!
These factors seem to be overlooked by the 'skeptics' and the "know-all" armchair 'experts'!

Excellent!!

All,

Please have a close look at this topic/thread!
Since it was started by Stefan a few days ago, only a few posts are on topic!
The rest is bickering about definitions, name calling, etc.
I rest my case....

Best regards to all,
Les Banki

First, in an ICE you want combustion, NOT detonation. THAT is the problem with your ignition. Try injecting a little steam to slow the process from detonation to combustion.

Second, in now way did I call him stupid, I was referring to his statements, not him. For all I know he may be a collage professor. Such a shallow perception of things is why people continue to overlook the most simple answers.

I've left a trail of bread crumbs 1/2 mile wide, and still no one here has followed it, and the few that emailed me, 1 of them was a headhunter who is now shipping me an oscilloscope and several meters, along with a little funding to get the final parts needed to make it a full blown Tesla based system.

Like I said many times before, I don't give a flying fu** if you believe me or not, it's Tesla's work, not mine. I'm simply bringing it to light since Tesla left it undocumented.

ray8abit

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #168 on: December 28, 2010, 05:59:53 AM »
@Les Banki

I am only a year into studying hho.  i was able to see you work in a couple other forums and have been intrigued by your work. 

I am using an old diesel four stroke engine/generator 5 kilowatts for my experimenting.  You are stating the flamewall is 3 to 10k per second detonation which is obviously well above diesel combustion.  What do you say to injecting water or steam to slow down the detonation to combustion fronts to drive the pistons?

questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #169 on: December 28, 2010, 06:02:28 AM »
@Les Banki

I am only a year into studying hho.  i was able to see you work in a couple other forums and have been intrigued by your work. 

I am using an old diesel four stroke engine/generator 5 kilowatts for my experimenting.  You are stating the flamewall is 3 to 10k per second detonation which is obviously well above diesel combustion.  What do you say to injecting water or steam to slow down the detonation to combustion fronts to drive the pistons?

Way to change someone elses post to look like it's yours! What a fraud!

ray8abit

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #170 on: December 28, 2010, 06:36:02 AM »
Nice

What a fraud?  Yep I am a fraud.  I tell people how smart I am, yet do not really give them anything.

Yep I am a fraud for asking a question and some idiot who knows everything comes down with both feet.

Yes, I am a fraud because I absolutely read every post in every forum.

Yes i am a fraud because my three engineering and IT degrees show that I am just lazy and stupid.

Well this fraud has had enough.  This appears to be another attack forum rather than a discussion forum

Ray

questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #171 on: December 28, 2010, 06:42:34 AM »
Nice

What a fraud?  Yep I am a fraud.  I tell people how smart I am, yet do not really give them anything.

Yep I am a fraud for asking a question and some idiot who knows everything comes down with both feet.

Yes, I am a fraud because I absolutely read every post in every forum.

Yes i am a fraud because my three engineering and IT degrees show that I am just lazy and stupid.

Well this fraud has had enough.  This appears to be another attack forum rather than a discussion forum

Ray

No, your a fraud for trying to take credit for something someone else already said.

And trying to keep real tech out of the wrong hands does not make me a fraud, it makes me cautious.

Only an idiot would make such a bold statement with no investigation whatsoever. I'm not asking for money, I'm not asking for trust, I'm not even asking for a stamped sealed reply. I ask for a signature to keep the good stuff in the hands of the good people, and that costs absolutely nothing.

I share Tesla's secret with anyone willing to investigate, which you apparently are not willing to do since you made a post bashing me with ABSOLUTELY NO INFORMATION WHATSOEVER!

Get a life asshole.

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."....Albert Einstein

ray8abit

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #172 on: December 28, 2010, 07:03:23 AM »
Nice

I do not ask for money

I do not ask for you to believe me, even when you attack me.

I only ask that you have an open mind. 

I only ask that you look at everything, not how much you attack me.

I only asked, what if there is a third leg?  what if electromagnetism is not the end all of end alls?  What if what science of today can be just a stepping stone of tomorrow?

I only asked, but asking brought the elitists. 

I was an elitist, but found only ashes when I awoke.

Explain to me again how over unity and not knowing have in common?

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #173 on: December 28, 2010, 07:05:39 AM »
Oh by the way, what have you shared?  Other to attack those who wish to learn?

questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #174 on: December 28, 2010, 07:16:21 AM »
Nice

I do not ask for money

I do not ask for you to believe me, even when you attack me.

I only ask that you have an open mind. 

I only ask that you look at everything, not how much you attack me.

I only asked, what if there is a third leg?  what if electromagnetism is not the end all of end alls?  What if what science of today can be just a stepping stone of tomorrow?

I only asked, but asking brought the elitists. 

I was an elitist, but found only ashes when I awoke.

Explain to me again how over unity and not knowing have in common?

None of that made any sense or relation to anything said, and your trying to make links that were never even hinted at.


questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #175 on: December 28, 2010, 07:19:14 AM »
Oh by the way, what have you shared?  Other to attack those who wish to learn?

Ive met people like you before. You reword other people stuff to try to take credit, then start stupid word play games to try to fish out information in a way to make it where you can explain the device you had absolutely nothing to do with. ANOTHER manipulated technique to gain credit for someone else's work before they can.

Short of a bullet in the head there's no way to shut people like you up, so I'm not even going to try. Anyone with a brain in their skull can see you are nothing more than a manipulating fraud on a fishing trip. Your chilish, immature "your not telling cause you can't do it" attitude won't work on me. Go find a sucker, sucker.

questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #176 on: December 28, 2010, 07:54:44 AM »
After careful consideration, I have decided that the risk is to great to continue accepting agreements and releasing the information. The headhunter and others I am already in contact with is enough for me.

You can thank ray8abit for presenting the unspoken threat to the entire field. HE is the reason for this decision.

Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #177 on: December 28, 2010, 08:34:41 AM »
Nice

What a fraud?  Yep I am a fraud.  I tell people how smart I am, yet do not really give them anything.

Yep I am a fraud for asking a question and some idiot who knows everything comes down with both feet.

Yes, I am a fraud because I absolutely read every post in every forum.

Yes i am a fraud because my three engineering and IT degrees show that I am just lazy and stupid.

Well this fraud has had enough.  This appears to be another attack forum rather than a discussion forum

Ray

Ray,

Please try to calm down.
I was actually confused who that line was referring to.  You or me?
But then, "questioneverything" has confirmed that it was directed at you.

Ray, I am in complete agreement with your statements.
So much so that if these unfounded attacks and abuse continue,
I AM OUT OF HERE!!!
I am more than happy to help you PRIVATELY.
Yes, water or steam injection has been used for many years for hydrocarbon fuels and now HHO as well.
(I have a book dealing with that subject.)

Just email me at "lbanki at optusnet dot com dot au" (just fix the email address)
(By the way, that goes for others as well who wish to communicate without being abused.)

questioneverything,

I understand that you are a young hot-head.  That's OK.
I agree with many things you say but sometimes you don't make much sense.
For example: "THAT is the problem with your ignition."
With all due respect, how can the ignition system be a "problem" in a combustion versus detonation case???
A spark is a bloody spark, whether it causes combustion OR detonation!!

Further, you claim that I said you called 'him' an idiot?
Who are you referring to???
Please clarify.

Best regards,
Les Banki

questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #178 on: December 28, 2010, 08:48:51 AM »
Ray,

Please try to calm down.
I was actually confused who that line was referring to.  You or me?
But then, "questioneverything" has confirmed that it was directed at you.

Ray, I am in complete agreement with your statements.
So much so that if these unfounded attacks and abuse continue,
I AM OUT OF HERE!!!
I am more than happy to help you PRIVATELY.
Yes, water or steam injection has been used for many years for hydrocarbon fuels and now HHO as well.
(I have a book dealing with that subject.)

Just email me at "lbanki at optusnet dot com dot au" (just fix the email address)
(By the way, that goes for others as well who wish to communicate without being abused.)

questioneverything,

I understand that you are a young hot-head.  That's OK.
I agree with many things you say but sometimes you don't make much sense.
For example: "THAT is the problem with your ignition."
With all due respect, how can the ignition system be a "problem" in a combustion versus detonation case???
A spark is a bloody spark, whether it causes combustion OR detonation!!

Further, you claim that I said you called 'him' an idiot?
Who are you referring to???
Please clarify.

Best regards,
Les Banki

My purpose has been accomplished. It is apparent that people here rather take advise from the rewording of an original source than from the source it's self.

The level of incompetence is more than I can stand. I did everything except spell it out for you and none of you have gotten the point. I knew you wouldn't, that's why I posted the pic. It is a dead giveaway but the inability to spot the obvious has lead to the corruption of the most basic thought processes.

THAT was in reference to the difference in detonation and combustion. The context of that small paragraph was obviously lost on you. A spark is a spark, but some are hotter than others. But it doesn't matter what spark you use, an ICE is an internal COMBUSTION engine. Detonation causes damage and it will not run properly. That is why spark plug go in the head off center and at an angle.

It doesn't matter what spark or fuel you use, you need combustion, not detonation. This supports my original statement that no one here is able to spot the obvious. Even when it's spelled out for you. That post had nothing to do with the ignition. It was solely the comparison between detonation and combustion, yet somehow you are still stuck on a spark is a spark is a spark.

FYI, I'm 30 and dying from complications that arise over time after my neck was broken. People don't get attacked unless there's a reason. At the time I was releasing hidden cures to common illnesses. I was a threat to a major medical profit margin.

But it doesn't matter anymore. When people start taking the side of a manipulator, it's time for me to leave.

questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #179 on: December 28, 2010, 09:03:45 AM »
I'm sure more than a few of you will be happy about this. There is no place for logic in your delusions.

Can someone please tell me how to delete my account here?