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Offline Low-Q

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #150 on: December 28, 2010, 01:05:44 AM »
On the contrary, this is my idea of not dealing with ignorant people - tell it as it is, ridiculous. Threads such as this are not a place to look for education. You have to be educated to allow yourself engagement into a discussion on OU. It is not for newbies, less for dabblers and/or people whose sole aim is to cut their utility bills. Discussing OU is a serious matter and has to be approached seriously.
I would suggest to look for energy sources which is more obvious and easier to harness rather than spending milleniums in the search for overunity. My sons railtrack are still missing pieces - I look forward to that day those missing railtrack pieces shows up from thin air.
There is just one minor problem; There are no such thing as over unity, because the nature does not want to develop in that direction - but rather in the opposite direction. Nature wants to approach equilibrium. In this process we can harness the potential which is in a constant change - untill the "day" everything has equalized and found its equilibrium.
Our sun are the most obvious energy source as long it shines up there in the sky, which has given us steel balls + magnets (SMOT), waterfalls, wind, HHO, etc. etc. If everything on this planet are suppose to work as a cause of the constant fading energy from the sun, we cannot expect to find overunity - not in this planet - and not even with a SMOT.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #151 on: December 28, 2010, 01:09:13 AM »
OK, I'll send you a link via pm but I don't want any input from you discussing it. Just read it, learn it and don't bother assessing or asking me questions. All right?

Thanks

Got it, printed it out. Lecture at bed.
I will enjoy it I see.. :)
But you will discuss it in one of your threads.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #152 on: December 28, 2010, 01:12:45 AM »
I would suggest to look for energy sources which is more obvious and easier to harness rather than spending milleniums in the search for overunity. My sons railtrack are still missing pieces - I look forward to that day those missing railtrack pieces shows up from thin air.
There is just one minor problem; There are no such thing as over unity, because the nature does not want to develop in that direction - but rather in the opposite direction. Nature wants to approach equilibrium. In this process we can harness the potential which is in a constant change - untill the "day" everything has equalized and foud its equilibrium.
Our sun are the most obvious energy source as long it shines up there in the sky, which has given us steel balls + magnets (SMOT), waterfalls, wind, HHO, etc. etc. If everything on this planet are suppose to work as a cause of the constant fading energy from the sun, we cannot expect to find overunity - not in this planet - and not even with a SMOT.

Vidar

Very well said.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #152 on: December 28, 2010, 01:12:45 AM »
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OUR FUTURE ENERGY SOURCE -- THE VACUUM: there's no void or empty Space! (RC)
« Reply #153 on: December 28, 2010, 01:45:19 AM »
I think we are missing what is the definition of OU.

I like Tom Bearden's definition. He wrote a nice book explaining it in details: Energy from the Vaccum.

Hi. Aspden too, through the whole of his lifetime seminal work; eg. http://www.aspden.org/papers/P2002a/Berlin.htm

In the end OU is simply energy from sources that we just dont know yet, just like Omni said. It will eventually be well know and OU term will simply die. We all will be running our houses from "the wheel of nature" (Tesla words).

Fausto.

Imho, in spite of all the troubles that man and the world face, during this current period of transition, are there more appropriate times for the new discoveries that are meant to redefine ourselves and reshape the world we live in?! Age of Innovations at hand...
 
What is that energy unknown to science?

Although the physical inventions that lead to progress must come from Science through "trial and error", that is, before an invention can be found efficient and useful, an amount of experimental work needs to be conducted to correct the concrete-manifested imperfections of the original ideas-thoughts, simultaneously teaching us how TO THINK RIGHT; from my viewpoint, the most accurate account that may provide us with the background to better understand the current efforts to harvest "that [sea of] energy unknown to [current mainstream] science" comes not from the scientist but from the Mystic; Logic being the guide:

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   In the earliest dawn of man's existence he dealt principally with the SOLIDS; his first implements were such stones, sharp or blunt, as he found ready at hand. Later he commenced to trust himself to the LIQUIDS when propelling his first crude craft on water or to turn the primitive water mill. Still later he learned to use a GAS--wind--as a force of propulsion for ships and mills.

   That was an immense advancement; it brought the most distant parts of the world into communication, and widened the scope of man's knowledge immeasurably, but even the progress attained by the use of air power fades into insignificance before the strides we have made wince we started to use the more ethereal gas--steam power. That has turned the wheels of progress at a rate which leaves us dumb with astonishment. Yet even the wonders accomplished by steam are as nothing when compared to the thousand and one improvements in communication and knowledge development by the utilization of that still finer force--electricity, which circles the globe with a message in fewer seconds than the years it would have required by earlier means of propulsion.

   Thus we see that human progress has been accomplished by the use of finer and finer forces and that each time we have learned to utilize a subtler energy than heretofore used we have made a wonderful stride in civilization.

   This view is one we have not usually accustomed ourselves to take; we usually associate solidity and strength as if they were synonymous terms, but a little observation will readily show us the fallacy of that idea.

   The waves of the sea, which are fluid will raze the decks of a ship if a few moments, twist and bent the strongest iron stanchions as if they were but wires. The winds may blow the masts of a ship overboard in the twinkle of an eye, yet winds are but air, a gas. Water, a fluid, is tearing down the hills of Seattle, Washington, and making the city level at a rate impossible to the solid pick and shovel. When we look at the great locomotives with their extremely heavily built trains and we admire their ponderous bulk, do we ever realize that the reason why they have to be so solidly built is because they are to be acted upon by an invisible elastic gas-steam?

   The waterwheel was of no use as a power producer except when in direct contact with a stationary source of energy, a waterfall. Wind power was better, it could be used as a force of propulsion all over the world, but was fickle and uncertain. Steam was more nearly ideal, as it is procurable AT WILL almost ANYWHERE, but required ponderous machinery to be moved around wherever the force is to be used, as best illustrated by the locomotive, which is such a movable power plant. Electricity may be transmitted for many miles by means of little wire and can be used anywhere along that line; it may be stored, bottled in fact, and taken along; it may even be transmitted from place to place without wires along the all-pervading ether.

   We have shown that man's progress in the past has been accomplished by the utilization of forces of increasing subtlety--water, air, steam, electricity--and that the increasing utility of each of these forces is further enhanced by the facility with which it may be transmitted and utilized at various places. The latest advancement is the transmission of energy from a central source to various points without visible material connection as in the wireless telegraphy.

   Having reviewed past accomplishments, it must be evident that the FURTHER PROGRESS OF THE HUMAN RACE DEPENDS UPON THE DISCOVERY AND UTILIZATION OF A YET FINER ENERGY TRANSMISSIBLE WITH STILL GREATER FACILITY THAN EITHER OF THE FORCES YET KNOWN.

   What is that new force--what will it accomplish in the advancement of the human race--and along what lines are we to look for its discovery? Such is the natural threefold question, and we shall attempt to answer it.

   In his "Coming Race," [link] Bulwer Lytton gave us an inkling of what that coming force will be. Like all other such stories it has never been taken seriously, but regarded only as the fantastic imagination of a clever writer. Jules Verne's stories met with a like attitude of admiration for this vivid fancy (?) upon the part of the public, yet how much in them has already been realized? "Around the World in Eighty Days" is too slow for the twentieth century globe trotter. Submarine navigation and bird-like flights are facts today.

   In truth, THE HUMAN MIND IS INCAPABLE OF IMAGINING ANYTHING THAT CANNOT BE ACHIEVED. That seems an extravagant statement, but it is not justifiable in view of what has been done? And reverting to our main line of argument, something akin to the VRIL of Bulwer must be discovered before man can take the next great step in advancement. True, great and marvelous discoveries lie ahead of us in the further exploitation of the forces we already possess, but the next GREAT STEP depends upon the discovery of and the preparation for the use of the coming force. Attempts at making the steam engine were made many centuries ago by the ancients before we succeeded in the latter days. Electricity was known in a very small way also by them, but it took a long time to ripen these ideas sufficiently to make them directly available for use; similarly, while we go ahead and exploit these forces we know we must also prepare for the coming force and if we can find it we may be able to find the means of using it the quicker. Let us look a little closer at Bulwer Lytton's Vril, it may be that beneath the fantastic garb a valuable clue is hidden.

-- Max Heindel (1908), The RCL Nº19: THE COMING FORCE--VRIL OR WHAT?

Hope these brief lines may be found helpful to foster constructive aims.

Merry Christmas (season),
from Portugal
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #154 on: December 28, 2010, 03:13:20 AM »
I saw a very good video.

Science teaches that for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.

Overunity is scientifically impossible.

Where does this extra energy come from?

lets see     electromagnetic energy is the basis of the Universe.

hmmmmm   what if there was another(a third basic block) of energy/matter?

Would this not explain Tesla, Meyers, others?

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #155 on: December 28, 2010, 03:21:21 AM »
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Overunity is scientifically impossible.

Where does this extra energy come from?

Not true. While the extra energy isn't coming from a pre-existing energy source, it is coming from spontaneous displacement under the action of a conservative force (neither of those latter factors is pre-existing energy and yet their combination produces energy).

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #156 on: December 28, 2010, 03:27:53 AM »
If it is not true      explain Tesla and meyers        shoot even explain fast freddie    they all say the same thing if you are paying attention


What is the one theme they all say?  Several other folks on this thread have said as much.  And yes I have read every post on this thread.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #157 on: December 28, 2010, 03:39:57 AM »
If it is not true      explain Tesla and meyers        shoot even explain fast freddie    they all say the same thing if you are paying attention


What is the one theme they all say?  Several other folks on this thread have said as much.  And yes I have read every post on this thread.

Tesla and the other mentioned do not have OU devices so there's nothing to explain.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #158 on: December 28, 2010, 03:48:22 AM »
I am impressed

Funny my 12 year old son is named Nikoli(stupid me, i thought Nikoli Tesla was if not the premier genius of our time, at least up there.)

Why did JP Morgan quit building Tesla's tower?

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #159 on: December 28, 2010, 03:54:20 AM »
I am impressed

Funny my 12 year old son is named Nikoli(stupid me, i thought Nikoli Tesla was if not the premier genius of our time, at least up there.)

Why did JP Morgan quit building Tesla's tower?

Not because it had anything to do with OU.

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« Reply #160 on: December 28, 2010, 04:20:43 AM »
Withdrawing post: i have misread the original post; my apologies.
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #161 on: December 28, 2010, 04:22:54 AM »
Actually agree with you.   Nothing to do with UO, but morgan thought so. m Who produces free energy to the world might as well been over unity.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #162 on: December 28, 2010, 04:24:50 AM »
I would like to remind all that there is no such thing as an OU device.

C.O.P. of 1 is considered unity. Need I remind you that your houses heat/AC pump operates between 3-4?

Solar, wind, and hydroelectric are considered C.O.P. infinity systems. 1 simple fact people keep over looking to try to push there misconceptions on truly open minds. You on an over unity forum trying to say over unity isn't real.

Doesn't that seem kindda redundant and stupid? Who the hell are you to say the world top quantum physicists are liars?

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #163 on: December 28, 2010, 04:32:38 AM »
I saw a very good video.

Science teaches that for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.

Overunity is scientifically impossible.

Where does this extra energy come from?

lets see     electromagnetic energy is the basis of the Universe.

hmmmmm   what if there was another(a third basic block) of energy/matter?

Would this not explain Tesla, Meyers, others?

No, it would not. They all had 1 simple thing in common. They didn't believe in 1 or the other, they believed that systems could be modeled after the universe and life it's self. Duality based systems that use BOTH sides of the energy fields.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #164 on: December 28, 2010, 04:53:19 AM »
@questioneverything

let me ask a question?  or two ......

First, present scientific theory suggests that electromagnetism is the basic building blocks of the Universe and science.  Electricity and magnetism.  The question is what if there is actually a third?

Something that Stan Meyer, Nikoli Tesla(who I named my first born son after), and even you have alluded to, even fast freddie, as well as many in the effort to create amazing results.

I personally do not believe in over-unity.  However I do believe we have not discover all there is to know about energy and how it may be harnessed.   I have studied forum after forum, book after book, inventor after inventer, pioneer after pioneer and have come to one simple conclusion.  We are missing a chunk of the puzzle.  Men like Tesla and Meyer only proved that we do not have all the facts to prove that for every action there is an opposite an equal reaction.  How did they create an action that proved the reaction?

I have read every single post on this thread.  Amazing results on the trolley from lab to elevator, to ....    The naysayers and the proponents.  Everyone has an opinion.  You see what is on the trolley, build your own.  Prove or disprove.  Test and ask questions.

Some folks only wish to rip apart other folks research.  Ignore them.  Some folks wish to share their research,  share back with them.  Some folks wish to share overviews but not detail, try to replicate on your own.  Try yourself, and fail or succeed, but try.

I am build a 80 cell "brick" presently.  If it performs for size and current it will put my chevy suburban at 50 miles per gallon.  No it is not pure HHO, but it saves me enough to pay for some more research into HHO.

 

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