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Author Topic: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output  (Read 371617 times)

mr2

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #120 on: December 27, 2010, 10:52:07 PM »
No, it is not. Overunity is producing energy without extracting it from a pre-existing energy source.

From nothing, you get nothing. That's why noone has made it. That's why theresn't such thing as overunity.

helmut

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #121 on: December 27, 2010, 10:55:15 PM »
Hi Mark
Today i had a phonecall with oliver.
He told me, that he is very busy with new developments.
If such meeting is organised, it will take all day ( experience)
Because there are many things to present, many matters to discuss.
Please be patient until new vids are available.

The other Problem is, that in the past many Groups came to see everything,talk a lot , others give visons over huge amount of investment, take some Antons with them , and never show up again.

It might be the reason,or one of them, that he has no time for visitors.

helmut




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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #122 on: December 27, 2010, 11:06:09 PM »
From nothing, you get nothing. That's why noone has made it. That's why theresn't such thing as overunity.

Who said that you can get anything from nothing? I said that OU is when energy is produced and there is no pre-existing energy reservoir. I repeat, energy reservoir. Other things exist but no energy reservoir to tap into. Is that clearer now?

mr2

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #123 on: December 27, 2010, 11:15:05 PM »
Who said that you can get anything from nothing? I said that OU is when energy is produced and there is no pre-existing energy reservoir. I repeat, energy reservoir. Other things exist but no energy reservoir to tap into. Is that clearer now?

Other things exist? But not energy from any known energy reservoir? But if you tap into the other thing that exist (but we don't know about yet), isn't that an energy reservoir then? And we are back to not overunity, but COP > 1.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #124 on: December 27, 2010, 11:25:56 PM »
Who said that you can get anything from nothing? I said that OU is when energy is produced and there is no pre-existing energy reservoir. I repeat, energy reservoir. Other things exist but no energy reservoir to tap into. Is that clearer now?

Oh, Bot, why are you changing the tunes now?
mr2 said it well, now you're just looking to get yourself out of the trap...

You said what you said, and you said that at many occasions before...
 You clearly said (several thousand of times (look at your post count here), or even at different forums) that "you can get plenty (of energy), out of nothing".

Are you - again - trying to parachute out of the situation?

OmniBot, you're here solely because of the "level" of this site.
I hope that you understand that.


Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #125 on: December 27, 2010, 11:27:06 PM »
Other things exist? But not energy from any known energy reservoir? But if you tap into the other thing that exist (but we don't know about yet), isn't that an energy reservoir then? And we are back to not overunity, but COP > 1.

We know about these other things and they are not an energy reservoir. Pre-existing conservative forces and spontaneous displacements are not a pre-existing energy reservoir.

mr2

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #126 on: December 27, 2010, 11:42:12 PM »
OmniBot, you're here solely because of the "level" of this site.
I hope that you understand that.

Level? What level?
I've been here some years amusing me of the "level". Having a beer and a laugh.. Plain entertainment.

This HHO-device thou, is one of the better suggestions.. and at least the right way to provide plausible results..

Remove all factors that may give misunderstandings, doubt..
And nothing beats "TIME".

If they run this on the parking lot for one week, only refilling the water reservoir, who is to doubt the results?
Even I would accept that. They wouldn't even need the load to make me accept that it works.

But I don't see that coming...

Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #127 on: December 27, 2010, 11:45:59 PM »
Oh, Bot, why are you changing the tunes now?
mr2 said it well, now you're just looking to get yourself out of the trap...

You said what you said, and you said that at many occasions before...
 You clearly said (several thousand of times (look at your post count here), or even at different forums) that "you can get plenty (of energy), out of nothing".

Are you - again - trying to parachute out of the situation?

OmniBot, you're here solely because of the "level" of this site.
I hope that you understand that.

Sad, sad that there are such sorry creatures as @spinn_MP infesting this site. They bring the level down but in their delusion it's others who are the culprit. Sad, sad situation.

Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #128 on: December 27, 2010, 11:47:53 PM »
Level? What level?
I've been here some years amusing me of the "level". Having a beer and a laugh.. Plain entertainment.

This HHO-device thou, is one of the better suggestions.. and at least the right way to provide plausible results..

Remove all factors that may give misunderstandings, doubt..
And nothing beats "TIME".

If they run this on the parking lot for one week, only refilling the water reservoir, who is to doubt the results?
Even I would accept that. They wouldn't even need the load to make me accept that it works.

But I don't see that coming...

Not so. The HHO-device thus far is one of the least likely devices to be OU, unfortunately. There's nothing about it, as is presented, to hang on to. Just a proposal that needs to be examined properly.

mr2

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #129 on: December 27, 2010, 11:50:40 PM »
We know about these other things and they are not an energy reservoir. Pre-existing conservative forces and spontaneous displacements are not a pre-existing energy reservoir.

This is fun...
You tap into it, using it's energy to run something? And that is not energy? What is it that makes a device run without energy?
Eh.. something that need energy, taps into something that is not energy.. and runs? How could the device run if it doesn't get energy?

Conservative forces and spontanious displacements.. With no energy.. Well..

Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #130 on: December 27, 2010, 11:52:52 PM »
This is fun...
You tap into it, using it's energy to run something? And that is not energy? What is it that makes a device run without energy?
Eh.. something that need energy, taps into something that is not energy.. and runs? How could the device run if it doesn't get energy?

Conservative forces and spontanious displacements.. With no energy.. Well..

Go read some physics first and learn what spontaneous displacement under the action of conservative forces is. Enough with ignoramuses, such as you, infesting this forum.

spinn_MP

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #131 on: December 27, 2010, 11:52:59 PM »
Rotfl...

Jeeez, Omni, don't get too emotional...

Have you decided what your next project (forum, etc..) will be?

mr2

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #132 on: December 27, 2010, 11:53:49 PM »
Not so. The HHO-device thus far is one of the least likely devices to be OU, unfortunately. There's nothing about it, as is presented, to hang on to. Just a proposal that needs to be examined properly.

You are very correct. There is no overunity in this device. Or other...

Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #133 on: December 27, 2010, 11:55:03 PM »
Rotfl...

Jeeez, Omni, don't get too emotional...

Have you decided what your next project (forum, etc..) will be?

The above is a crock of crap as everything @spinner_MP has posted thus far. If you don't believe me go read his postings under his profile.

It's not even entertaining to have him elevated as a clown.

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #134 on: December 27, 2010, 11:59:39 PM »
Go read some physics first and learn what spontaneous displacement under the action of conservative forces is.
so how is it (the said displacement) spontaneous (spontaneous means it is proceeding by itself and without interaction with the rest of the surroundings) when it is, and i quote, "under the action of..."?

i beseech thee oh great omni, to enlighten us unwashed ignoramii...  ::)