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Author Topic: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output  (Read 291386 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #435 on: June 14, 2014, 08:19:14 AM »
Les
This world needs more of you and your example .


you inspire .....and at this moment your inspiration is very very timely.


Thank you


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #436 on: June 14, 2014, 06:00:49 PM »
I found quite cheap Einhell STE 2000 4-stroke generator on auction.

From your experience guys, Is it suitable for rebuilding? How much gas(LPM) i will need to run this old generator? its 196 cm3 ...

Thank you.


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #437 on: June 14, 2014, 06:33:14 PM »
Thank you very much Les!
I cant wait to see how the elctrolizer and motor modification are made...
Would some one point me a free wai to see the pbc files please?
Have a good day to all! :)

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #437 on: June 14, 2014, 06:33:14 PM »
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Offline SolarLab

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #438 on: June 14, 2014, 08:23:43 PM »
Hi Les;

Thanks for the project data dump. As always, excellent stuff - it seems there's forever something more I can learn!

BTW, I'm having difficulty opening your "Water (HHO) driven generator project.doc" file.
Might be this computer however since it's my ancient online relic from the ole' Waterfuelcell.org (before it locked - lurker dave) days.

When the threads dwindle I don't think its the interest that dries up so much as it is that the technology becomes do-able to many of the more technically capable so they simply quit posting and "go off and do it;" [like you and I did] which only leaves the lurkers and lamers, who soon loose interest and move on to the next hot topic. I've seen this pattern time and again over the years.

Meyer's "water fuel cell" technology development is still very much alive and well; at least here in Florida but the main focus relates to the Boyce type cell. It's now commercialized to a great extent with a few local shops providing auto conversions and such, but unfortunately, it still hasn't found the mainstream yet.
But it does appear there are lots of "hurricane aftermath" type HHO fed electric power generators in storage just waiting for that workout.

Here's a link to an HHO Test Set I put together a few years back. It never went beyond some lab testing but I thought you might find it interesting:

http://contest.techbriefs.com/2011/entries/machinery-and-equipment/1887

The HHO/ICE scheme turned out to be too noisy and maintenance prone for our application [irrigation - greenhouse] so I turned to Solar and subsequently Electromagnetic (Bob Smith - Kapanadze - Akula - Dally - etc.). These techniques do actually work but, as always with new technologies, they need a lot more development before they're "turn-key."

Here's a couple of links to my solar approach (these work great but they're expensive and too complicated):

http://contest.techbriefs.com/2010/entries/sustainable-technologies/608
http://contest.techbriefs.com/2010/entries/machinery-and-equipment/919

Anyway, good to here your still at it, hope you all are doing well, and thanks for sharing!

Lurker Dave...   :o)


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #439 on: June 14, 2014, 11:13:19 PM »
Les;


Thank you very much for your gift. I understand that it is a lot of hard work and money you put in to this. It is really generous of you.


The .PCB files do they contain both layouts an schematics? I cant find any schematics in the zip file.
What program do I need to open the files?


With Best regards


Kent /
 

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #439 on: June 14, 2014, 11:13:19 PM »
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Offline Marshallin

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #440 on: June 15, 2014, 03:07:51 AM »
Les;


Thank you very much for your gift. I understand that it is a lot of hard work and money you put in to this. It is really generous of you.


The .PCB files do they contain both layouts an schematics? I cant find any schematics in the zip file.
What program do I need to open the files?


With Best regards


Kent /

Protel DXP 2004 can open it. But it not support new os, so i am running it on winXP inside virtual box.

Offline Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #441 on: June 15, 2014, 05:03:08 AM »
All,

About my files:

I use Protel (PFW) for all my electronics designs, both schematics (circuit diagrams) and pcb layout.
However, to enable everyone to 'read' my circuit diagrams, I have converted them to PDF.
Two of the smaller diagrams have .png extension, the rest (12) has .pdf extension.

The .pcb files are in the original Protel format to enable board manufacture.
If you wish to view those files, you need the Protel software.
As far as I know, the Protel 99SE is still available for FREE download.

It would be pointless to convert the pcb files to PDF because while you would able to see the board layout, tracks, silk screening, etc.,
ALL information needed for board manufacturing would be totally LOST!

I write my text files as 'Open Office' documents but save them as 'Word' files since some people have problems opening .odt files.

I hope this helps those who have problems opening the various file types.

Cheers,
Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #441 on: June 15, 2014, 05:03:08 AM »
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Offline Marshallin

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #442 on: June 15, 2014, 10:14:00 AM »
Les : Yes protel 99se have free trial version, but i was not able to instal it on 64-bit OS (i tried it on win 7 and 8 ). Thats why i have virtual-box with win xp.
If anyone will be interested i can convert your drawing to .cad files and post them somewhere.

I am thniking about some small scale replica(some RC motor or realy small gasoline generator <1kw), but i have almost not experience in combustion engine field and not as much money to spare  :).
I would be realy glad if sameone help me a little bit. So guys if you have free time please PM me.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #443 on: June 15, 2014, 11:28:12 AM »
All,

About my files:

I use Protel (PFW) for all my electronics designs, both schematics (circuit diagrams) and pcb layout.
However, to enable everyone to 'read' my circuit diagrams, I have converted them to PDF.
Two of the smaller diagrams have .png extension, the rest (12) has .pdf extension.

The .pcb files are in the original Protel format to enable board manufacture.
If you wish to view those files, you need the Protel software.
As far as I know, the Protel 99SE is still available for FREE download.

It would be pointless to convert the pcb files to PDF because while you would able to see the board layout, tracks, silk screening, etc.,
ALL information needed for board manufacturing would be totally LOST!

I write my text files as 'Open Office' documents but save them as 'Word' files since some people have problems opening .odt files.

I hope this helps those who have problems opening the various file types.

Cheers,
Les Banki
You could always post the Gerber and NC-Drill files.  There are free readers for those, and they are needed by the fab house.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #443 on: June 15, 2014, 11:28:12 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #444 on: June 15, 2014, 11:58:38 AM »
totally agree, all PCB manufacturers only asks for gerber files (even cheap factories in china).

I didn't find the pdf files of the schematics in the zip file (from dropbox) from Les Banki. Could you guide me to those files ?

Thanks again for all this great work. I will be doing a small replica on my free time and will post updates in the forum.

Offline Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #445 on: June 15, 2014, 12:45:04 PM »

I am thinking about some small scale replica(some RC motor or realy small gasoline generator <1kw), but i have almost not experience in combustion engine field and not as much money to spare  :) .


Marshallin (and others)

Please note that the design of my Electronic Control Unit (ECU) for this project is INDEPENDENT of generator/engine size.

In practical terms it means that the ECU will be the same for a tiny engine as for a VERY LARGE one!
Thus, you are NOT saving anything on electronics by running a very small generator but you could save a little (not much) by making a smaller electrolyser.

For a LARGE generator, you could increase the size of the eletrolyser or have two electrolysers in parallel.

In my next post I will deal with the perceived "complexity" of my ECU design.

Cheers,
Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #445 on: June 15, 2014, 12:45:04 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #446 on: June 15, 2014, 01:47:17 PM »
Les, stainless steel is stupidly expensive in my country so i want use old small electrolyser.
Is not powerfull but is power effective ... i sending picture from my thesis. I just need better case for that. Defenetly is not in my power to build some large 140 plate electrolyser so far.

I am quite afraid from large volme of hydroxy gas, i dont want to "play" with it, till i will get some experience. And i dont have stanalone workshop ... i am living in small apartment.

Is posible to run two stroke engine on hydroxy (If i will add standalone lubrication system to it of course)? Or i need 4-stroke one?




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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #447 on: June 15, 2014, 03:27:59 PM »
hi Les
would you please point me the link of your pdf file.

Thank you!

Offline Paul-R

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #448 on: June 15, 2014, 03:48:37 PM »
Les, stainless steel is stupidly expensive in my country so i want use old small electrolyser.
Is not powerfull but is power effective ...

Is posible to run two stroke engine on hydroxy
hydroxy needs the timng of the spark changed. advanced. With 2-stroke, you need to ignore one of the sparks, I believe.

N.B. For some electrolysers, staniless steel is essential for even adequate performance, and usually 316L is specified. do you have a recycling depot near you? They tend to collect metals separately and will have stainless steel. Scrapped commercial kitchen units are good, as is scrapped medical equipment

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk
See Chapter 10.
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #449 on: June 15, 2014, 04:44:01 PM »



Ok, thank you all for advice of program to use.




Regards


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