O.K.
Here is the rest of the story…..
George then wanted to make a 120 cell unit so I emailed him my drawings.
He followed them ‘to the letter’, according to him, did not deviate ‘one iota’ from the drawings!
When he ‘fired it up’ for the first time, he instantly blew all his mains power 15A fuses!
He then phoned me and I advised him to fill the cell only partially.
In order to not to blow his fuses, he could only fill the cell about 40mm from the bottom.
Even then, after about 2-3 minutes, his circuit breakers (which I advised him to use) were tripping again!
However, before the circuit breakers tripped, he made some measurements.
The gas (HHO) was pouring out at a rate of 36 L/minute!!
Sure, the power input was something like 3.6kW (240Vx15A) but hey, that is about
100 W/L per minute!
In short: he had NO means of controlling the power input since my AC phase control circuit design was not ready at that time!
[As a temporary supply, I made him a box with a 25A bridge rectifier (on a heath sink) and a 10A moving coil meter in it. (you can see this box in some of the pictures)]
The whole point is that the efficiency of that set up was/is over 200% ‘Faraday’!
George sent me many pictures of that cell and the whole set up.
He also took pictures of how they made the grooves for the plates with his friend’s OLD milling machine!
But he took those with the “old fashioned†film camera and sent me the copies in the mail.
The story does not stop there!
Next thing I knew, George ‘modified’ a router table to make the grooves him self and took some photos of the modifications!
This time, however, he took those pictures with a digital camera at my request and emailed them to me!
He made one Acrylic board with the 120 grooves for me as well and sent it to me!
(You can see it in one of the attached pictures.)
That is what I am going to use to make my 120 cell electrolyzer for the prototype set up.
Now to the POINT of this long story:
Here we have a man (George, now 83) who, at the age of 81, modified a router table and made 120 grooves, all by himself, while others are moaning and groaning, bitching about how difficult and complicated everything is!
As an example, here is a quote from a post (and my response to it) which appeared more than 3 years on the ‘waterfuelforall.com’ Forum:
Pep Talk For Those Of You Who Are Not Inclined To Build The Banki System
« on: September 08, 2007, 05:56:42 AM »
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“The Banki cell project is a big, tedious, expensive, complicated, and highly problematic build for guys that are either not electronically inclined and/or are not mechanically inclined. Therefore, it might be a good idea to build a smaller cell to begin with using the size plates recommended by Les Banki. I'm thinking a 10 plate cell would be a good place to start. It would be much cheaper to fabricate than the larger cells and also much easier to build. If after testing it you decided that you wanted a bigger cell, you could always use the plates out of the smaller cell in your larger cell. That way, all you would have lost would be a little acrylic/ABS and your time. You would however have gained a lot of experience though. Some of you will never attempt to build a large cell, so you might as well attempt the smaller cell. This way you could build the system first hand and gain a whole lot of experience and expertise. If you are not a serious builder and/or that handy with tools, I'd suggest building the smaller cell and testing it out. That way you can brag to your friends at least and say that you did make a Banki cell.
Don't let this project scare you off before you get started! There is to much to be gained from this technology for you not to get involved and build this system. The trick is to start small and work your way up to big if it's not your cup of tea. Do not be scared away. This technology is within your grasp, so take my challenge and build this system whether you are (mechanically inclined)/(electronically inclined) or not!
I'm very mechanically inclined but challenged in the electronic area but I am going to do this thing. So, join me and let's build this Banki system together.â€
My response to this was:
Once again, I make no excuses for being harsh and blunt!
I find your post(s) contradictory and your personal perceptions misleading, which will only confuse people!
“The Banki cell project is a big…..
BIG, yes. What did you expect? My work (and I would say this Forum) is NOT about ‘boosters’. With only a small number of cells you will never have a high enough efficiency to run ANY size engine. Period.
To those readers (if any) who may disagree with my philosophy:
“WATER OR NOTHINGâ€, I would say: you are on the WRONG Forum!
“tedious, expensive, complicated…†,
With all due respect, how did you arrive at those conclusions?? I don’t know what some of you expect but if you are going to bitch about a few hundred dollars investment, then, this is NOT for you and you should stop right here…..!
“and highly problematic build for guys that are either not electronically inclined and/or are not mechanically inclined.â€
Really??
Most people are NOT “electronically inclined†and you can’t blame them for that.
It should be obvious that I set out to TRY to help those who are not.
However, “…are not mechanically inclinedâ€â€¦.you must be joking….what are those doing on ANY free energy site/Forum?
??
“That way you can brag to your friends at least and say that you did make a Banki cell.â€
Goodness me, I can’t believe I am reading this…..!
End quote.
Well, then.
A few weeks ago I asked George if he could ‘shoot’ some new photos with his digital camera for me to publish.
He said sure but I would have to wait for a while.
Then, a few days ago, at my son’s suggestion, I scanned a couple of the photos he sent me in the mail and they turned out surprisingly well!!
So I emailed him to tell him that there is no need to take new shots.
The scanned ones are good enough for the purpose.
I have attached 4 more of those scanned pictures of the 120 cell set up so you could get an idea what is involved.
My next post will deal with the technical aspects of running series cell electrolyzers on 50/60Hz AC power supply.
Best regards,
Les Banki