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Author Topic: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output  (Read 319343 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #240 on: January 03, 2011, 04:21:36 AM »

  Bolt,               
Very touchy subject! And one of the reasons we are here

Change...............................

                           
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« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 01:29:21 PM by ramset »

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #241 on: January 03, 2011, 04:43:27 AM »
Because population is becoming more dumb, braiwashed by TV, behaving like herd of mentally disabled consumers driven by media. Values are no more. Only interested to fill a belly, and pleasing themselves without guessing on what cost it comes.
If you look at the population as a whole, bigger picture - it is only interested with their individual  direct needs.As long as they have food,electricity,water,TV and other toys to have comfortable life-they do not bother and are too lazy to care.
But..... lets cut some of those for a few days.Population will start to behave like animals driven by basic instinct- survive.
Somewhere I had heard the saying, it goes something like that " Distance between peace and revolution is one breakfast and two dinners".
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #242 on: January 03, 2011, 05:06:13 AM »
Because population is becoming more dumb, braiwashed by TV, behaving like herd of mentally disabled consumers driven by media. Values are no more. Only interested to fill a belly, and pleasing themselves without guessing on what cost it comes.
If you look at the population as a whole, bigger picture - it is only interested with their individual  direct needs.As long as they have food,electricity,water,TV and other toys to have comfortable life-they do not bother and are too lazy to care.
But..... lets cut some of those for a few days.Population will start to behave like animals driven by basic instinct- survive.
Somewhere I had heard the saying, it goes something like that " Distance between peace and revolution is one breakfast and two dinners".
Regards,
pix

That's indeed the sad state of affairs but people have been conditioned deliberately to be that way by the powers that be. It is said that economy works that way better than when the population is enlightened and isn't just a herd of consumers.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #242 on: January 03, 2011, 05:06:13 AM »
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Offline Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #243 on: January 03, 2011, 05:12:42 AM »
Is it good or bad then that countries such as Brazil have found ways, probably through the personal talent of their leaders, to bring millions out of poverty and therefore enhance the consumer society status quo by distancing it away from a revolution?
« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 05:41:43 AM by Omnibus »

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #244 on: January 03, 2011, 05:30:44 AM »
Brazil knows what real depressions are they had more then their fair share. When some towns hit 50% unemployment they formed CO-OP societies and took over closed factories for no pay. They often fought and won many court battles over trespass.  Many of these business making all kinds of stuff are now locally and publicly owned and every cent goes back to the people. Everyone earns the same wage. They are also pioneers of using TIME as money and trading hours work with each other. This created thousands of jobs where people traded time for food etc.

Let it be known the government did NOTHING to help it was about people coming together and get them selves out of the shit. The real power starts with the people.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #245 on: January 03, 2011, 05:46:13 AM »
I can't imagine that that has happened only spontaneously. Why is then Lula so popular?

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #246 on: January 03, 2011, 06:54:24 AM »
you guys need to go see how the rest of the world lives.
In many countries like ours we work to live..not live to work. Think about it.
Most other nations have incentive schemes for switching to alternative fuels. Brasil is an excellent example.
Unfortunately you have a democracy fuels by corporations. In most countries everyone has to vote(or they get fined)
In many others they dissalow political donations.
Any this is a conversation for another thread. We are suppose to be discussing the Anton System here
Mark

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #247 on: January 03, 2011, 01:29:58 PM »

  Bolt,               
Makes me sick every time I put gas in the tank,worse at the house ,I feel like a pig when I burn Fuel,Its freakin disgusting to me. Sending that puke up into the air ,Young men dying to put money in the pockets of Scum oil Sh$&s

                           
Chet

Oh, geeez, Ramsy...

Those "Oil Sh$&s" are getting only some few percents of your gas money....

Do you people really understand how this World of ours really works?



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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #248 on: January 03, 2011, 06:20:25 PM »
Is it good or bad then that countries such as Brazil have found ways, probably through the personal talent of their leaders, to bring millions out of poverty and therefore enhance the consumer society status quo by distancing it away from a revolution?

Do you want to know what is our "secret" here in Brazil? It's simple: profitable government-owned companies. And no "free market fundamentalism". Free market has to serve society, not society has to serve the free market.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #249 on: January 03, 2011, 06:36:48 PM »
Do you want to know what is our "secret" here in Brazil? It's simple: profitable government-owned companies. And no "free market fundamentalism". Free market has to serve society, not society has to serve the free market.

I wish we could talk more about this because I've been in Brazil (way back, in 1968 when the cruzeiro was still the currency; besides Rio, Sao Paolo and Recife, I was also in Brasilia when they were still building it) and I'm very interested in the enormous progress it has achieved since then and what really made it happen. Unfortunately, as Mark said, this is not the thread for such discussion.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #250 on: January 05, 2011, 07:27:45 AM »
All,

Reading posts here in the last few days makes me think I made a mistake and ended up in a wrong thread!!

I will try to bring it back on topic!

First, a few suggestions to Oliver & Valentin:

Replace the Variac with a Phase Control circuit (see my attached circuit diagram and description).  That would also eliminate your power consuming current limiter bar!

If you don’t want to try my circuit, you could try to use a HIGH POWER DIMMER!
(However, a dimmer will NOT adjust your current automatically to compensate for load changes!)

With proper phase control, you will have negligible losses.

Also, since the “Anton cell” is a series cell electrolyzer, keep in mind that its efficiency actually INCREASES as the cell numbers increase!
(see my thesis: HHO-generator ‘closed loop’ set-up)

Some posters are critical about your use of a battery for your ignition set-up.
Ignore them!!
They don’t understand that a properly designed ignition system will use less than 10W!

Further, please IGNORE the downright STUPID cries for exhaust “analysis”, University “validation”, etc.!
No matter what you do, you will NEVER be able to convince those who “know” that what you guys have done is “impossible”!!!
So my advice is:
Instead of wasting your time and energies trying to satisfy those ‘no-hopers’, please use those valuable energies on your project!

OK.
I am somewhat surprised to find that the files I have attached to my earlier posts a few days ago have been downloaded many times!
I get the impression that there may be some interest in my work! 

Perhaps some of you would like to know how MY closed loop system will be set up!

While nothing “secret” or “fancy”, so far only a couple of people were ‘privy’ to the last closed loop details of my set-up since I choose NOT to publish them before.
(Most of the other circuit details of my ECU design have been available to all for the last 2-3 years.)

A few days ago I decided to write down and release the remaining bits of information.

To avoid making this post too long, I wrote it as a Word document.  (attached)
I have also attached some pictures of the prototype ECU and some circuit boards.
Please note that the pictures of the ECU do not show all connections to it.
Nor does it show the extra LEDs to indicate which power supply is being used at the time. [start-up (mains, inverter) or the power from the generator]
Those LEDs will be added to the control panel later.

In the next few days I am going to take some more pictures (this time of the ‘internals’ of the ECU) which will hopefully give you an idea of what is involved!

Since the Anton cell is a series cell electrolyzer, I am still on topic when I repeat my response to one of Stefan’s post:  (note the date!)


6     Hydrogen energy / Motors or Vehicles running on HHO or Hydrogen only, no gasoline / Re: HHO explosion slowing down the burn speed of HHO to get compatible with gasoline
on: April 24, 2009, 07:10:12 AM

“Hi Stefan,

It is not clear from your post if the 2.4V is across 2 series OR 2 parallel cells.
I assume you intend to run a series cell electrolyzer directly from the mains, (220VAC in Germany), full wave rectified but DO NOT filter it!

For 220V you should have 110 cells for maximum efficiency.
(you should NOT exceed 2V per cell!)
And yes, the SERIES cells arrangement is the only way to go! 

Cells operating at voltages higher than, say, 2.5V, is a waste of time and effort.
Further, current density should be no higher than 30 - 40mA per square cm
Calculate plate sizes accordingly.

Also, distance between plates should be no more than 3mm and as EVEN as possible. 
SS316L is the best material for the plates.

DO NOT  use chemicals to clean them and cross hatch them (by hand) with emery paper.
DO NOT touch by hand!  Use gloves.
(Same instructions as Bob Boyce has published repeatedly over the years.)

If all these points are observed, you WILL produce high quality hydroxy and you will only need 1 to 4% of hydroxy and 99 - 96% air.
You will have MORE THAN ENOUGH to run the engine AND have power left over!

Have fun!  You will enjoy the result!”

Best regards,
Les Banki 

Ps. Since my attachments are larger than the limits for this Forum, I need to make a couple of extra posts just for the attachments!

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #250 on: January 05, 2011, 07:27:45 AM »
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Offline Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #251 on: January 05, 2011, 07:40:43 AM »
more attachments....
I don't seem to be able to do more than 2 at the time....
It is too time consuming....!

Would some of you be able to tell me if its possible to upload ALL my files to perhaps ONE Folder here?

Thanks.
Best regards,
Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #252 on: January 05, 2011, 07:50:41 AM »
more pictures.....

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #253 on: January 05, 2011, 08:09:03 AM »
still more files....
I think that's it! (for now)

I hope all of you like them!

Best regards,
Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #254 on: January 05, 2011, 11:15:49 AM »
Hi Les.
you are a good electrical designer. Was good to catch up with you the otherday and i wish you all the best.
I do have issue with you. I was one of the no hoper's you mentioned wanting exhaust tests. There are three reasons:
1. To gain more understanding of the combustion processes. I have worked with and consulted with some very good combustion engineers.
2. To see if there were any carbon introduced into the system. Many of my friends and I who have performed tests for our own research or part of a validation process for investors this is the first test we do. Given the many scammers that have both privately and publically been exposed in the past this is the best tell tale sign of foul play. However I suspect in this case ammonia may have been introduced...go read Oliver's reply. I have not a problem with this
A friend of mine in the next week is testing another self runner claim...first thing he packed was a exhaust gas testing unit.
3. There is often a considerable amount of money at stake from investors for proof of concept. This is help in escrow. The people who have this money insist on using good engineers and ...in the case o HHO testing exhaust gas analysis
Kind Regards
Mark

 

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