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Author Topic: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY  (Read 28134 times)

Omnibus

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2010, 06:18:53 PM »
The builder's own measurements aren't good enough for you?
The only thing in my numbers that did NOT come from the builder's measurements and statements is the energy content of the battery.

Perhaps he used a nearly-depleted battery of inferior quality that was just about to tumble over its discharge cliff and drop voltage, and only contained 400 Joules to begin with.

So you are absolutely right, Omni. I have no idea, I am assuming that he would use an off the shelf, new battery...like he says he did.

So, since you have no idea, as you obviously don't, stay calm. No one needs your useless input and advice to customers.

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2010, 08:27:27 PM »
@Omni: I think I am the calm one around here. Not as calm as you, obviously, but calm nevertheless.

@osiris: I laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQM8WbCq2Y

Omnibus

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2010, 08:38:56 PM »
@Omni: I think I am the calm one around here. Not as calm as you, obviously, but calm nevertheless.

@osiris: I laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQM8WbCq2Y

So, what's the point? That vid isn't even funny let alone evidence against what's being discussed in this thread. Where's your data regarding the device at hand? You don't have such? Then, like I said, relax.

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2010, 09:57:41 PM »
Omnibot, you haven't changed a bit.
Same old, same old... "OU has already been proven beyond a reason of a doubt...." + Bla,blabla..., forever.

Anything new?

Omnibus

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2010, 07:47:34 AM »
That's getting funnier by the minute. Am I seeing it right, the guy increased the inital bid to $5,000 with increments of $5,000? He probably got encouraged by my little exchange with @TinselKoala. What a mistake.

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2010, 11:27:16 AM »
Is Ebay listing fee a percentage of the start price?

Does he really think anyone in there right mind is going to pay $5000 for this??

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2010, 06:24:57 PM »
Is Ebay listing fee a percentage of the start price?

Does he really think anyone in there right mind is going to pay $5000 for this??

He'll soon find out for himself. I can see now @TinselKoala, cheering ... "I told you so". No, wait till you see the guy up the price even further. That's hilarious.

Oh, and by the way, where's the answer to the question regarding the input current and voltage:

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   Q: Would you allow precise measuring of input current and voltage and output current and voltage of your device? I would be interested in making these measurements with the equipment that I have. Please let me know if this would... Continue reading
A: The starting "OUTPUT" voltage across the 4 lamps measured 68.6 volts and the current .28ma So we are looking at .019208 watts across 4 lighted lamps. A 6 Hour 28 minute run time resulted.
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« Last Edit: December 20, 2010, 11:55:47 PM by Omnibus »

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2010, 12:55:05 AM »
The fun goes on:

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I am not answering any more questions except to say that the 4 LED lamps illustrated are  each 120 VOLT RATED,  1 WATT LAMPS.  If you are that interested start the bid and as hi bidder you can visit me at your own expense. See this in action "BEFORE" you pay. Examine or take it apart "AFTER"  paypal.. Its yours then to do as you wish. No returns for any reason then. There is a few details about this I have not published or shown in any of my prior videos that makes this work. The circuit is safe inside my head.  Any deviation from what you see will not work as this does.   Need industrial engineers to look into this for further development.  Proceeds go to charity.  Yes - I changed the bid price much higher. Charity always needs more contributions.  Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

So, he won't answer any more questions, right? He, however, didn't answer even the first question. The guy doesn't understand that he should be the one who should pay someone to visit him and confirm what he's claiming. There were 350 of the same ilk in Idaho this year so why should he be the first to be held accountable? Wonder if @markdansie or @mscoffman went there or know anything more about this whole scheme? 

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2010, 12:59:33 AM »
I'll be monitoring this closely because such arrogance as shown by that seller should be nipped in the bud (not the way @TinselKoala does it, by showing vids with unrelated evidence and presuming things for a premature laugh). We've already had too much of that crap. Enough is enough.

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2010, 03:02:19 AM »
He might just be trying to make a point as to what he considers the value and potential of this technology to be.  From my understanding, this fellow has worked in the technology field through his life... perhaps his endorsement in this matter lends credibility to the community as a whole.  Perhaps he is trying to keep his wife from freezing, although I doubt that.  The point is... does Tesla care?  Does Bedini care?  Do any of us who have contributed on the development of the One Magnet No Bearing Bedini style circuit he is showing care?  If the answer is no, then, well, why do you care?  If he can convince 5 people in the world that he is not selling Rube Goldberg's desk lamp and that there is potential (pardon the pun) in this technology for larger scale positive change, is that a bad thing?

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2010, 05:23:18 AM »
He might just be trying to make a point as to what he considers the value and potential of this technology to be.  From my understanding, this fellow has worked in the technology field through his life... perhaps his endorsement in this matter lends credibility to the community as a whole.  Perhaps he is trying to keep his wife from freezing, although I doubt that.  The point is... does Tesla care?  Does Bedini care?  Do any of us who have contributed on the development of the One Magnet No Bearing Bedini style circuit he is showing care?  If the answer is no, then, well, why do you care?  If he can convince 5 people in the world that he is not selling Rube Goldberg's desk lamp and that there is potential (pardon the pun) in this technology for larger scale positive change, is that a bad thing?

Most people here know why I should care so I don't need to explain that. As for convincing people, he shows zero real evidence and if he manages to "convince" anybody to buy this thing it would be nothing but a scam on his part. That would be a scam in its purest no matter how you twist words to make it appear it isn't.

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2010, 05:54:29 AM »
Most people here know why I should care so I don't need to explain that.

I agree, most people in your house, place of business, place of employment, local public library, internet cafe, or wherever you are typing from probably do know why you care.  I am, however, in none of those places.  If you want me to know, then you will need to explain it.  I would guess by your post count that either a) you are a relatively prolific inventor contributing to a wide range of knowledge bases, or b) you are relatively prolific troll.  Only the clarity of time will tell how it really looks from here.

As for convincing people, he shows zero real evidence and if he manages to "convince" anybody to buy this thing it would be nothing but a scam on his part. That would be a scam in its purest no matter how you twist words to make it appear it isn't.

I'm not sure he is actually trying to sell it.  Does McDonalds provide any real evidence to you that there is beef in your Big Mac?  It looks like all he is posting for sale is a machine that will light a bunch of LED's and spin a rotor for 6 hours on a AA battery.  As always, caveat emptor.  The base circuit is patented but widely documented and available such that it appears that it was intended to be spread far and wide.  He has made modifications, incorporating several other ideas placed in the public domain.  I can tell you from experience that while that setup is not totally optimized, it will achieve a relatively high frequency for a mechanical oscillator, and as you might recall, Tesla was quite fond of high frequencies.  I wonder why...

A point of further clarification on "convince:"  Perhaps my choice of words was wrong.  Allow me to elaborate:  Should he awaken 5 people to the possibility that there does or could exist such a thing as a device which uses an electronic means to create a condition whereby generally unknown quantum or other forces allow energy to be changed from below the quantum threshold or somewhere else into a form which the circuit can collect and deliver into a load, would that be a bad thing?



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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2010, 06:09:49 AM »
No, he should not. He is giving no evidence that this is an OU device and therefore he should not have implied in any way that it might be one. His is an incompetent attemt at somethig which many people here are serious about and that clumsy dabbling is offending their intelligence.

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2010, 06:23:10 AM »
And that blabbering with quasi-scientific lingo using words such as "quantum", terminology and field you have apparently no clue about, is disgusting. This may pass among hillbillies, as it is evidently aimed at, to imbue some importance into the subject among the feeble minded. There are many in this forum who are opposite to that and you'd better save your efforts to convince them that way.

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Re: MODIFIED BEDINI SALE ON EBAY
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2010, 06:46:54 AM »
And that blabbering with quasi-scientific lingo using words such as "quantum", terminology and field you have apparently no clue about, is disgusting.

Ahh.  I see it took you over 15 minutes to come up with your opinion on why he should not post that for sale, but only a further 14 minutes to degenerate into insulting me!  Troll it is for you then!

As to my knowledge of very tiny things, some of which we can observe, and some of which we can't... you have no knowledge of my level of research therein, nor am I going into a battle of wits with someone half-armed.  I know what I know, and you do not, and that is the difference between us, on many levels.

This may pass among hillbillies, as it is evidently aimed at, to imbue some importance into the subject among the feeble minded. There are many in this forum who are opposite to that and you'd better save your efforts to convince them that way.

In closing, I really do not care what you think, as your opinion has exactly 0 effect upon me.  Feel free to swing your dick around some more in an opportunity to try to be the alpha male you never could quite be by acting like an asshole on an internet forum.  OOK OOK!!  ME SWING THIS TREE LONG TIME!!  ME BIGTIME CHIMP TELL OTHER CHIMPS WHAT TO THINK!! OOOOOOK!!