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Author Topic: Charging Water?  (Read 11831 times)

WillJ

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Charging Water?
« on: May 12, 2006, 09:48:04 PM »
An associate has found something of possible interest to the Joe Cell, Orgone followers.

Can water be charged and hold a charge like a battery!

Indeed it can. See a simple experiment at ; www.stifflerscientific.org

it is very interesting and easy to do. This may help those that say its not possible and yet show how it can be shown in a very simple setup.

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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2006, 02:58:11 AM »
Sounds very interesting !
Many thanks to Ron for doing this experiment !
I wonder what we can now do with charged water ?
Was it destilled water or tap water ( with salt in it) ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2006, 04:08:23 AM »
US3474014,Aul
we could using it !
Why there is a method of mixing water with colloidal silver ?
What is the physical attribution to this mix-effect,body-inside ?
Is silver not an anti-oxydant(oxygen:radical element) ?
Is the charging not a help for catalysis ?
Catalysis:process-velocity-change (positve:faster/negative:slower
or vice-versa)

S
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Offline IcyBlue

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2006, 11:42:17 AM »
What is the physical attribution to this mix-effect,body-inside ?
the effect to the human body ? Search for 'argyria' or look at this >link<.

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2006, 05:47:28 PM »
Sorry if a tad off-subject-

Just wanted to jump in quick on the defense of colloidal silver, a wonderful inexpensive product that I've personally used for years with great success as have thousands of people. It's an undeniably  very effective and powerful antibacterial and antifungal agent. "Argyria" is an extremely rare condition and I don't think there have been any documented cases of it being caused by the use of colloidal silver made in small particle  sizes of under 10ppm and while using  pure water in its manufacture.
 Also of great importance, bacteria do not develop a resistance to colloidal silver as they do/have to regular drugs. I urge people to study the extensive data available before drawing any conclusions either positive or negative about the use of colloidal silver.  8)

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WillJ

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2006, 07:34:12 PM »
It appears that maybe the readers of this topic are not looking at just what the implications may be of being able to charge water. I have worked with Dr. Stiffler on this research and we are going to spend significant time on it. Why? Because for one thing, what if your electricity could be supplied along with your water supply? What if the effect of charging water could produce secondary effects, such as endothermic cooling during discharge. Think of pouring a gallon of water into a device that provides cooling for a number of hours. What about the effect of cooling the ambient air to the dew point and extracting water. What we are so excited about is, what is possible here, artifact? if so it is very interesting to say the least. Where in modern science can you study the transportation of electricial energy via water? Not H2O conversion, but raw electricial potential energy. I made the initial post to this group with the permission of Dr. Stiffler as he has known the group moderator for a number of years and felt that the readers would enjoy the news. Please if you have the equipment, try the simple experiment, you will be happy with the results. What I was asked to tell the viewers is to do the experiment as stated, do not take inventor licence and use different electrode material or containers or less or more voltage. If you do try it, try it from this base line and then move forward if you so desire.

We are looking forward to your duplication and thoughts on what may be possible beyond the questionable medical aspects of charged water.

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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2006, 08:02:47 PM »
There is the "Joe-cell",with not common effects as communicated,
not scientifically/empirical/geophysical approved !

There is(had been ?) an inventor with the name
Jean Piere Chambrin:nice lecture "WO8204096: page 2 and 4 "!

I think we come now  into the wireless-energy-trans.../tele...-
sphere,so led us be "limitless open-mind",
"to be surprised!" depends as reaction from the own Max/Min spread!
 
Sincerely
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p.s.:"Scotty,beam me up-to the year :2100 !
      Which living conditions shall I/should we exspect for the
      "Generation-Next" ?
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Offline pg46

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2006, 08:56:22 PM »
Ok then-

 Whats the quickest and easiest way to produce 5kv of power supply to have a go at replicating this experment?

dani

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2006, 01:20:11 AM »
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifterb.htm

You can get the necessary parts out of an old TV

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2006, 04:20:53 AM »
What is the physical attribution to this mix-effect,body-inside ?
the effect to the human body ? Search for 'argyria' or look at this >link<.

Me and a few friends have used colloidal silver solution and it really helps.
This Quackwatch link is bullshit and probably be sponsored by the
pharmaceutical industries, who want to sell antibiotica.
Also you can get only this skin greying, if you take silver salts,
but not from small doses of colloidal silver...
Anyway, also it does not look too bad, if you have some blue-grey skin ! ;)

You can produce colloidal silver already with 3 x 9 Volts batteries in series= 27 Volts DC and
2 pure 99,99 % Silver electrodes from destilled hot water.
It really helps the human body to kill all bacteria and virusses.
I can very much recommend it personally.

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2006, 04:29:49 AM »
Okay, please let?s concentrate in this topic about the water charging...
You don?t need to drink this charged up water.. ! ;)

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2006, 05:31:30 AM »
Sonnyboy,
der sogenannte Partner entwickelt gerade den Aufbau einer
hiesigen Gesellschaft namens MENP und einem Produkt namens
"HIDROLINFA",eine Apparatur die zum Bereich Bio-Energetics
angehoert !
Gewissermassen ein Koerperelectrolyse-Geraet !
In Zusammenarbeit mit Universitaeten.
Erfolge?
Selbst bei "physischen Spastikern",also nicht hippochondrisch veranlagten Personen !
Selbst kritische Aerzte,medizinische-Einweg-Orientierungs-gedrillte Zweifler, werden nach Tests zu Kunden !
Ich stehe der Relation Physik/Mensch recht offen zugegen,
ob Behandlungen,die heute Erfolge vorweisen jedoch spaeter einen
negativen Domino-Effekt anhaben,darueber sollten/koennen wir nicht jetzt die Situation eroertern,es bedarf des Experiments !
Anbei gesagt:Die Behandlung erfolgt nicht oral sondern pe-d/t-al !
Der Begriff "body" ist nicht "Mensch-eigen" sondern universal !

MfG
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p.s.:Geht es aber eigentlich in diesem Topic nicht um die Nutzung
     von H2O als Energie-Speicher fuer Mensch-externe Anwendung ?


   
« Last Edit: May 14, 2006, 03:30:23 PM by lancaIV »

WillJ

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2006, 08:53:05 PM »
I want to add a few facts here, maybe simple in some eyes, yet important. The usage of 5kv with 220pf filter capacitance is bad for your health, it can under the right conditions KILL YOU, please be very aware of this fact when you work with duplication of Dr. Stifflers work. There are indeed a number of circuit available on the internet on how to build HV supplies, but PLEASE!, you want a supply that will supply full load current at 5kv of less than 1mA. If you build a supply like some found that provide =>30mA, if you believe, God Help You as you need to be extra carefull. Your home, shop or office wiring to earth ground with a greater than 1 ohms resistance will require the most special care

We are all confident that using the simple procedure described that anyone can charge water and see the results I have posted here. What you may not see at first is the impact of what you observe. It takes a moment or two of thought to see just how this procedure and its results can be of overall value.

Although Dr. Stiffler does not want to join this list himself, (past silly and stupid comments from arm chair members). he has however stated he will help here in addition to our web site in the duplication and overall understanding of what we are now looking into.

Please visit our site, we will be posting some very interesting information over the next week.

Offline Loki67671

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2006, 11:29:51 AM »
Will,
The implications of this concept are very interesting indeed. I have always been intrigued by the amazing versatility of water. I personnaly believe that researching the hydrologic and atmospheric cycles will produce very positive results. The proof of principal lies in observation of natural phenomena such as thunderstorms, tornado's, and hurricanes. The latter I intend to investigate in much greater detail. So what happens when charged water moves past a coil winding? Charge in motion has a magnetic field. The last time I checked there would have to be a voltage induced. Interesting. Should I expect conservation of charge after phase transition to water vapor and also from vapor back to liquid? I like the idea, the model if you will, presented year after year as hurricanes thrash the US coastlines. The eye/eye-wall is a fantastic example of a positive feedback mechanism that I intend on stabilizing and harnessing. The charged water concept is one I suspected and just adds fuel to my fires in this quest to do away with burning hydrocarbon fuels. We'll be talking.

WillJ

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Re: Charging Water?
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2006, 09:21:59 PM »
Please visit our web sight as Dr. Stiffler has updated or should I say added additional information on his 'Water Charging' experiments. I'm sure your interest will greatly increase when you read some of the effects observed, such as water shooting out of the end of a wire.

Enjoy..
Dr. Jenkin

 

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