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Author Topic: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field  (Read 22607 times)

Offline valveman

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Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« on: May 11, 2006, 07:38:30 PM »
Imagine for a moment a thin material capable of enitely blocking the magnetic field of a pernament magnet.  You would now be able to control the magnetic flux.  Doing so would change how we build motors.  This would result is a truly Overunity motor.  Does such a material exist?  I don't know!  If it does, then think of the possibilities.

Something to think about and investigate.

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2006, 09:03:13 PM »
Superconductive materials are exist.
If I know right the magnetic field can't go through these materials, and don't interact with them.
The problem is the operating temperature. At this time there is no published material, which works as a superconductor on ambient temperature.

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2006, 09:06:13 PM »
yes i have been looking for the same info for my wheel project. no luck yet :/
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,894.0.html

i am sure if i can turn on/off magnetic field i can make the wheel keep on self turning.

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2006, 09:06:13 PM »
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Offline valveman

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2006, 09:33:13 PM »
Lead is a very dense metal. Has anyone tried to see if the magnetic fields are attenuated in front of a small sheet of lead?  I have not tried this as yet but even if a small reduction in field intensity may be enough to overcome equillibrium which is the enemy of so many designs.

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2006, 10:34:20 PM »
Magnetic "shields" exists, any diamagnetic material can be used as a magetic field.

Pyrolytyc graphite is probably the best diamagnetic material easy to find.
As well Bismuth is easy to find but not so diamagnetic.

Of course supercondctors are the big diamagnetic source but they have to be at cryogenic temperature to work.

Diamagnetic materials can be used as a magnetic shield, but actually they are not so, they just act like an inverse magnet, what I mean they are repeled from any magneic field independently if it is S or N so they just act like a reversed magnet in comparison to the magnet they are close to.
That means that althought they can be used as a magnetic field there is no posibility to create with them a diferencial in potencial in a closed system. (lets say a wheel with magnets and partialy "shealed")
« Last Edit: May 11, 2006, 11:04:12 PM by _GonZo_ »

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2006, 11:00:25 PM »
ON/OFF-Permanent Magnet/-ic field-switch :
www.ibsmagnet.de/   Electrical Holding Magnet
as alternative !
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Offline JackH

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2006, 05:31:21 AM »
Hello valveman,

The total basses of my invention is the fact that I have learned how to turn a permanent magnet on/off.  It can be done.

I can take any permanent magnet no mater how big it is or how strong it is and turn it on/off just by using 8 watts of electric power.  This has worked out using 1/2 in. dia. to 3 in. dia. rare earth magnets.  Just 8 watts of electric power no matter how big the magnet is.   The electric valve I invented not only turns a permanent magnet on/off with 8 watts but it also amplifys the permanent magnets power by four times.

These valves were used in the overunity motor that is running at over 500% efficiency.

Latter,,,,JackH

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2006, 09:23:09 AM »
Hi JackH, can you please post a picture of your motor and more infos ? Many thanks.

Offline valveman

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2006, 08:09:22 PM »
That sounds pretty cool JackH.

I'd love to hear more.

Valveman

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
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Offline JackH

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2006, 04:58:31 AM »
Hello hartiberlin,

Yes I would be glad to post pictures of even the new big motor that I am currently wirking, however I have no idea how to post pictures on this message board.

Can you give me instructions on how to post pictures?


I'll upload them tomorrow if I can find out how.

I can also give out some details but not much.  I have strict orders not to post any info about the motors from my investers.  And at this time I cannot aford to loose them or there money.

I also have created a generator out of this electro magnetic valve that I tested to be outputing at about 98% efficiency.    I'll send a picture of it too if you want it.

Later,,,,JackH

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2006, 05:18:02 AM »
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gn0stik

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2006, 03:48:38 AM »
There is a material in hard drives, after having played with them a bit today, that I noticed had a semi-shielding effect to very strong neo mags. It's the material to which the magnets inside hard drives are glued. 1/8 of an inch of it allowed me to "shield" iron components from the magnetic field. Only very small items would stick. although the magnet was directly attached to the other side. Neither the sides or edges of the material would allow me to stick a small screw to it, it would just slide off. However the magnets would pull the same item directly to them if exposed to the open face of it from over an inch away. It would however allow me to attract another strong magnet. I thought they were steel, however if it were the pole, although weaker, would simply transfer to the steel if that were the case.  Perhaps this material could be used to shield a rotor with an iron front edge on it, on a SMOT type motor to overcome the sticking point. This could perhaps be done mechanically somehow as on a torbay motor(ramp/wheel). Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Any thoughts? 

gn0stik

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2006, 04:20:06 PM »
The magnets in a hard drive are for moving the actuator arm back and forth via a coil on the arm itself ,to allow the read heads to move in and out over the surface of the platters.

The material I'm talking about has the magnets for moving the coil in a sandwich configuration above and below the actuator arm, which resembles a rocker arm laying on it's side with finely wound coil on the back of it. (these would make excellent stators in the torbay device, if you could get enough similar ones to make a model). At any rate, these magnets are probably 42s if not higher. VERY strong. And sandwiching them between these materials negates one side of the magnet's field almost completely. Hence why in spite of the STRONG magnets in a hard drive they don't emit a strong magnetic field outside the case of the drive itself. They are perfectly capable of doing so at their strength.  Makes me wonder if the material is bismuth or diamagnetic graphite. But that would eventually wear down the magnet's poles so.... I'm not sure. At any rate I'll try to give you an idea below of the configuration.


________________   <---plate of ?
-------------------  <---magnet
#############  <---coil
-------------------  <---magnet
________________  <---plate of ?



magnet shape       _____________
                        /       N     S      \
                       / N   ----------  S \
                      /___/               \___\

obviously it's much more rounded than this, and it's actually more of 1/3 of a circle than half.

gn0stik

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2006, 01:06:20 AM »
^^^Wierd

I don't remember typing that.... At any rate,

If you can peel some of that material off and stick it on that cut, it would probably help alot.

Exactly, perhaps you could eliminate the pushing of the stators back down altogether, and allow gravity to do that job instead of the topcap.

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Re: Turning on and off a Pernament Magnet Field
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2006, 02:46:53 PM »
Hi Jack, Nice work on your motors!

I have a couple questions about the magnetic valve that I think you can answer without putting your patent application in jeoprody.

1) By what percentage is the magnet's field reduced when in the "OFF" state?

2) You originally stated that the means of turning a magnet OFF was by way of applying a ~180kHz square wave across the magnet (perpendicular to the field). The connections to the magnet had to be conductive, and as close to the Bloch wall as possible. Subsequently, you stated that the same effect can be produced by 2 other means, namely with a DC voltage, and by a mechanical means of some sort. My queston is: Which of the 3 means is the most FUNDAMENTAL, or BASIC (simplest) way to achieve this effect in the magnet?

3) Which of the 3 means above are in your patent application? All 3?

Comment: There must be much more involved than just applying an AC or DC voltage across a magnet to turn it off, otherwise, you have already given away the secret. Since no one has succeeded with the simple test, AND you have stated that you would not reveal all until you receive the patents, I assume I am correct. I surmize then, that it is pointless to experiment with the simple test, as the real means has yet to be revealed, and thus would be fruitless.

Regards,
z_p_e

 

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