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Author Topic: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD  (Read 27159 times)

energia9

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UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« on: December 08, 2010, 03:58:51 PM »
hello, This is what i have been working on for a while now, and im posting this because i want the people who are into this give me ideas and contribute to make this wonderfull invention of OTIS CARR. and build an actual device based on US Patent # 2,912,244
http://www.rexresearch.com/carr/1carr.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRv59Csi2QY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfM23rAZTSQ&feature=related

truesearch

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 05:40:49 PM »
I would like to see you document your experiments, results, and builds here so that they can be duplicated by others. I haven't managed to grasp the concept yet but he apparently (providing it wasn't a hoax) was tapping into ZPE for power.

Truesearch

v71

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 12:48:53 AM »
Time ago i studied the otis carr ufo , and as far as i can understand i think its a kind of brushless electrostatic machine, which at each turn of the "gyroscopes" increases its charge until its repelled by the negative charge of the earth.
The blue light could be the ozone plasma which is created around the craft due the the high electrostatic charge.

energia9

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2010, 05:09:38 PM »
Time ago i studied the otis carr ufo , and as far as i can understand i think its a kind of brushless electrostatic machine, which at each turn of the "gyroscopes" increases its charge until its repelled by the negative charge of the earth.
The blue light could be the ozone plasma which is created around the craft due the the high electrostatic charge.

Thank you V71 :) before i had allready designed a gyroscope like that (but only on paper) : - I
, i somewhat knew this could happen, but there is something else aswell, when something spins very fast in anticlockwise mode it starts to reduce weight, this has been studied by scientists,  the weight redutcion is so low, but by doubling the speed it means lowering weight by possible hundreds of times,  also when something exceeds the  speed of earths rotation  by means of   8000 mile = 24 hour to make a complete circle,   4000 mile object would have 2 x the speed and thus would make it within 12 hr,   2000 mile  =  6      1000  3hr     and so on,   the speed and rotation per second has to be calculated for a 1 meter model,  than i guess it would be about 60000 revolutions per SECOND (Not minute)   this is a tremendous force,   and as Otis said it can be done with the completely round and completely square object, because gravity not just pushes out right and left angle,  But also upward and downward thus not braking apart.  the same can be done with a Sphere. this is why earth is round, 
everyones ideas welcome here, if you contribute, i can take your idea into account, and have more chance of replicating OTIS CARR, 

*V71*  nice one again, this is a good way of looking at it also,
Keep the ideas coming , they are more than welcome here

v71

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2010, 12:15:49 AM »
60000 revolutions at seconds, develop a huge force, that would totally rip apart the machinery, not to talking about the power you need to rotate that masses.
At this time i really don't understand the function of the gyroscopes in the otis carr ufo, unless i think about my conjecture (sp??? )

osiris

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2010, 05:53:21 AM »
are you for real ?
there is some work envolved ..

dont get me worng im verry intrested
old OTIS  hummm 

got a super conductive quartz sphere ?
i got a rock that is sutied for such things ..

regards
osiris

i cant help it .. you need the tesla sheild   then the vessel  and must understand saclar 

the sheild allows  memery during the ride  the device saturartes the human brain thuss over writeing your memory

your brain works with the sphere   and YOU CENTERGIZE WITH THE DEVICE ...

Bob Smith

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2010, 06:16:13 AM »
The only thing I can think of that approaches 50,000 or 60,000 RPM is a hi-speed router or dremel. But to hear revolutions per second... wow - I guess my dremel might therefore hit 1000 RPM, but clearly much more is needed. You've got my attention.  :)
Bob

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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2010, 06:19:55 AM »
The only thing I can think of that approaches 50,000 or 60,000 RPM is a hi-speed router or dremel. But to hear revolutions per second... wow - I guess my dremel might therefore hit 1000 RPM, but clearly much more is needed. You've got my attention.  :)
Bob

guys i just invented a table top particle accelerator

what speed do you want it to go ..

osiris

v71

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2010, 11:41:02 AM »
I think there is an error in you calculations, lets' figure it out , i will keep miles per hour, even if my system is in km/hour


Earth's circumference is about 25000 miles , earth makes a complete circle in about an hour
( there are periodic fluctuations , these are averages values ) , so the earth has a speed of
25000/ 24 miles per hours , which is about 1041.66 miles per hours , let's compute how much miles per seconds the earth rotates at , simply is 1041.66 / 3600 which is about 0.3 miles per second
now, let's compute how many radians the earth rotates each second , 0.3 / 3963.19
3963.19 is the earth radius , this fractions gives about 7.56*10^-5 radians per sec.
Now , if we want something to detach from earth, we need to match , better overcome the rotational speed of earth respect the relative point the object is , let's make it simple and suppose the object is placed at the equator.
The angular velocity is 0.3 miles / R , where R is the circumference of the circle the object needs to  describe , to cut it short, the shorter the object is the faster it needs to rotate.
I think Otis carr used these 2 effects in conjunction , so a possibility is to make a small device, and:

1) rotate with an high speed and low electrostatic charge

2) rotate low speed and high electrostatic charge


Merry Xmass and Happy new year guys

energia9

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2010, 11:41:12 AM »
guys i just invented a table top particle accelerator

what speed do you want it to go ..

osiris
this device is electromagnetic in nature and it is nothing to do with a particle accelerator my friend. study an electromagnet and a gyroscope,  this is a combination of otis carr., im trying to replicate his patent, i believe it can be done without unprooved theories,  please keep them out of this topic,  dont get me wrong, i would like to push people to experiment on their own,   if you have this particle accelerator running then show it to us, proove it is working then we will know it, not believeing it,   belief is nothing more than fantasy, 

energia9

osiris

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2010, 02:45:56 PM »
this device is electromagnetic in nature and it is nothing to do with a particle accelerator my friend. study an electromagnet and a gyroscope,  this is a combination of otis carr., im trying to replicate his patent, i believe it can be done without unprooved theories,  please keep them out of this topic,  dont get me wrong, i would like to push people to experiment on their own,   if you have this particle accelerator running then show it to us, proove it is working then we will know it, not believeing it,   belief is nothing more than fantasy, 

energia9

is that right BOY ! 
BACK TO SCHOOL  BOY !

BYE!
osiris

YOU WILL NOT RIDE MY CAR   PISS ANT if you do not understand it you will never build it !
fact!

you can not imagine the things i made human reality tv man ...

yawn my tabletop particle accelerator ...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBHH_n9hIhg

YOU SUCK BOY !
« Last Edit: December 24, 2010, 03:10:24 PM by osiris »

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2010, 04:16:26 PM »
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Although Carr's business affairs were generally considered to be fraudulant, he was granted a patent for his device at the US Patents Office for an "Amusement Device" US Patent #2,912,224 (filed Jan. 22, 1959). In 1958 Carr struck a deal with the owner of an amusement park, Frontier City, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Apparently the terms of the deal were that Carr would construct a full-scale (45 ft) mockup of his saucer, OTC X-1, to be converted into a ride for the park. Carr relocated to Oklahoma City, provided the park with a dummy OTC X-1, and claimed to be readying a 6-foot "prototype" of his saucer for a demonstration flight at the fairground. Carr said his demonstration model would rise to about 500 feet. He also said he would follow that triumph on December 7, 1959 by launching a working 45-foot saucer, matching the amusement park mockup, and, with Wayne Sulo Aho and himself as pilots, would fly from the fairground site to the moon and return in a few hours. The 6-foot saucer was supposed to be launched on April 19, 1959, but it never even made it to the fairground, and neither did Carr who claimed to be feeling "unwell" on the day of his demonstration. Visitors to Carr's factory site during the period did not see any actual working models, or otherwise, of either the 6-foot or 45-foot saucers. Instead they were shown a small and motionless "three dimensional illustration of Carr's ideas" made mainly of wood. Carr had already dropped from sight before the launch date for the 6-foot model, and was not seen for quite some time thereafter.

In January 1961, Carr was convicted of "the crime of selling securities without registering the same" in Oklahoma, and fined $5,000, far less than the sums he had obtained from investors in the area. He was denied an appeal on March 1, 1961. Carr could not pay the fine, and served part of a 14-year jail term. Colton fled the state and soon resurfaced elsewhere, still selling non-working "free energy" technology. Aho was found to be an innocent dupe. After his sentence ended, Carr lived quietly in Pittsburgh until his death in 1982.

osiris

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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2010, 04:37:03 PM »
why does seral work ?
hummmmm
its mechanical   i  know why it works ..   
but it is not my job to give you this ..
it is your job to make it . and if you can not
then you do not understand it

peroid!

how about  hammel ?  why does it work ?
its mechanical and peizeo ... damm thing glows green than blasts off  why ?
something going on there ?  hummmm
yawn

just like i told ya

osiris

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Re: UTRON UFO PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY BUILD
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2010, 05:37:55 PM »
I can imagine how these devices work, the problem is money after all ,if i had money to pour into these projects, be assured that i already had a functional model.

osiris

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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2010, 06:14:21 PM »
I can imagine how these devices work, the problem is money after all ,if i had money to pour into these projects, be assured that i already had a functional model.

BELEAVE ME I KNOW EXACTALLY HOW YOU FEEL IT AINT AN EASY WORLD

this i have lived

osiris